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They always talk how they need guns to prevent tyranny and they are in a tyranny for over 6 months now and nothing...
- That was never the reason.
  Like anything else, conservatives only want things because smarter people suggest to them that they don't need them.
  Guns, unhealthy food, horse paste, religion, fossil fuel power, gendered bathrooms...
  Everything is pigheaded contradiction like a 2 year old.
  
  I'm very ready to defend myself against the Nazis. And I'm regularly on the outside of protests in my area just waiting for one of these fuckers to hurt anyone. And there are plenty of us there.
  You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
  
  Okay, I overgeneralized... I don't mean EVERYONE who owns guns falls into that category.
  But you can't deny it's the vast majority, and at the very least the LOUDEST group.
  Edit: Oh, it's you again! Hey, buddy! How's life?
  
  Maybe loudest. But 15-30% of Dems, depending on what your reading, already own guns compared to 30-40% GOP'er. Hardly a peer reviewed paper but it's easy to immediately dismiss vast majority.
  We're far off topic but stop acting like progressives aren't ready to defend themselves. You're making excuses for your own unpreparedness.
  
  Okay, before we get too far into ANOTHER argument here based on taking a generalization as a universal assertion...
  I'm not saying progressives aren't ready to defend themselves, I'm not saying progressives don't own guns, I'm not saying every gun owner is this.
  I was responding to this:
  They always talk how they need guns to prevent tyranny and they are in a tyranny for over 6 months now and nothing…
  Which is very clearly talking about a VERY SPECIFIC kind of VERY VOCAL gun owner. I'd like it very much if you could just take my acknowledgement that I asserted something about a group that DOES NOT apply to everyone as the grumbling, empathizing complaint about conservatives it was intended to be, and we can both just get on with our days without degenerating into another unnecessary, pointless slap fest.
  
  Honestly a whole bunch of somewhat respectable progressive comedians and whatnot who I know have gotten guns in the US and I don't really fault them that much with how shit is going.
  They're plenty available and if you don't have kids in the house you need to worry about, why not? It's not like the gun companies are gonna shut down via boycott of some leftists.
  Harmontown - Shooting Range Suicides And Why Dan Bought A Gun
  
  Horse paste
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/
  Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people throughout the world. Originally introduced as a veterinary drug, it kills a wide range of internal and external parasites in commercial livestock and companion animals. It was quickly discovered to be ideal in combating two of the world’s most devastating and disfiguring diseases which have plagued the world’s poor throughout the tropics for centuries. It is now being used free-of-charge as the sole tool in campaigns to eliminate both diseases globally. It has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found.
  Research takes like, no effort. Still perpetuating this "it only for horses" bullshit does nobody any good. "Viruses aren't parasites," is better.
  It still doesn't do shit for covid, but it is widely used to great effect in humans for, y'know, what it actually does do. Hell maybe RFK needs a dose lol.
  
  The point you're missing is that MAGA morons aren't getting human prescriptions for ivermectin, they're buying the emulsified horse paste from farming supply stores because they don't need to go through a medical professional for that.
  Appropriately dosed ivermectin is quite safe, but these people are eyeballing horse doses and ending up with fulminant liver failure.
  
  Tbf they could actually math out the dose, and it is the same stuff. Same with fish antibiotics actually, and people without insurance have been doing that for years because our medical system is fucked. If they OD that's on them, tbh, same as if they took a whole packet of the human pills.
  That said, again, in no dose will it ever do what they claimed. It's still for parasites.
  (Side note, not all of them were using the paste. Friend of mine gave me a pack as a joke [still have it, it's expired now but still funny], he got it illegally from a pharmacy like drugs used to be before xanax became fake bars pressed with fent! Don't need a prescription when you know a drug dealer either lmao. But those were floating around too for sure.)
  
  I guarantee you that the people gullible enough to fall for the ivermectin lies cannot math out the dose correctly. And yes, the primary problem is that most of these people don't have parasites (yet, give the raw milk some time) that would actually see any benefit from the drug.
  The fish stuff was hydroxychloroquine which is typically used as an immunomodulator for diseases like Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (not an antibiotic), and that's a medication that has to be dosed very carefully with regular screening labs to ensure that patients don't end up with organ damage. The stuff for aquariums is in a vastly different concentration (and commonly mixed with all kinds of other stuff), and again, would be profoundly difficult to dose appropriately.
  Interestingly, there is some physiologic basis on which hydroxychloroquine may have helped with the original COVID-19 strains. The original strains of the virus early in the pandemic had the ability to hijack immune cells that would then attack and destroy lung tissue, so an autoimmune treatment might have had some benefit had the virus not mutated so quickly.
  
  I guarantee you that the people gullible enough to fall for the ivermectin lies cannot math out the dose correctly.
  Ha-ha, but jokes are not reality. I mean, maybe you'd be surprised how many blue collar workers that have to use math daily are maga, but it really shouldn't be that surprising.
  Though yes, it is indeed for parasites, not viruses.
  The fish stuff was hydroxychloroquine
  Nope, Amoxicillin. Antibiotics given to people with a penicillin allergy (among other reasons.) Though yes, it is a different dose than normal for humans, it is still possible to do math. Of course it's always better to go to the actual doctor, but welcome to America.
  Now that last bit is kind of interesting actually. Didn't know that, neat!
  
  I remembered there being a spate of people poisoning themselves with Hydroxychloroquine during the pandemic, so that's what I thought you were referring to.
  As far as people being able to do math? There are plenty of people with STEM degrees that struggle with unit conversion and the orders of magnitude of the metric system. The reason pharmacists are so important is because it isn't uncommon for NPs/PAs, and physicians to write a prescription in milligrams that should have been micrograms. If people with advanced medical education fuck it up, I don't have high expectations for other folks. Also, there isn't a lot of readily available information that is accessible to the layperson that explains what dose would be useful/safe.
  Edit: ALSO!! AMOXICILLIN IS A PENICILLIN. DO NOT TAKE AMOXICILLIN IF YOU HAVE A PENICILLIN ALLERGY!!!
  
  I do vaguely remember something like that, but barely lol. Naw I was referring to fishmox.
  It can definitely be done, I've done it with fishmox lol. Source: poor, but own a calculator.
  As for the amoxicilin, my mom has a penicilin allergy and they give it to her iirc, and they always give it to me rather than allergy test me, so, idk? That's what I was always told but doctors can lie and/or be wrong, I'll have to look into it for curiosity's sake now.
  Edit: google said "if you think you have a penicillin allergy, you probably don't. And if it's been more than 10yr, it's probably gone by now."
  That may explain it haha.
  
  Penicillin allergies are fairly common, but vary widely in severity. Also, some people get side effects from medications but report them as allergies. If you get a rash, swelling, tingling, or difficulty breathing, those are early signs of anaphylaxis.
  Amoxicillin is one of many forms of Penicillin, so if you are actually allergic to any Penicillin, you are actually allergic to every Penicillin.
  
  Yeah I'm guessing she's "allergic" but not really actually allergic. Learn something new every day lol.
- Be thankful that enough of us are armed that the fascists aren't yet kicking down doors. Can you imagine where we would be if they could enter any home without fear?

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