Gen Z men voted for Trump to drain 'the swamp.' After Epstein, they feel duped.
My peers aren't country club conservatives. They're scrappy guys who thought Trump would take on the swamp and release the Epstein files.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34045251
Morons.
A bit of due diligence may have been helpful in their decision making. Nothing of substance about Trump was not known before the election.
I don't want to excuse their decision, but want to point out some context. Right-wing media is really effective at throwing out a ton of bullshit to obfuscate reality. The right-wing bubble throws out shit like Democrats having underground pedophile rings being run in DC pizza restaurants. Meanwhile Trump was found to have committed rape by a court.
Many conservative voters either:
its called firehose of falsehood, create many false narratives to the point your opponents dont know how to respond to it, this also doubles internal propaganda the target base wouldnt know what is true or not. and yes its russian strategy, and fox works with putin closely with the propaganda.
another one was pretty much gaza muslims, refuse to vote for biden, eventhough it had no statistical different on the voting numbers before the election.
But then how would they vote by feels when their gut knows the truth & detects fake news a mile away?
After Epstein
Except Americans voted for Trump after Epstein. Everyone knew they were literally partners in crime. It was public knowledge so don‘t tell me anyone can possibly be surprised by this outcome. What a bunch of child rapist supporting hypocrites.
I mean up until recently they were all like, "haha just wait until the list comes out and all you libtards get yours." Of course, now that trump has made it abundantly clear he's on it (as opposed to it just being normally clear he was on it before), they've split into gullible idiots who feel betrayed and cultish idiots who now think pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.
pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.
Reminds me of early South Park and the Michael Jackson fan 😂
trump has GHislaine covering for him, says he dint do anything, do magats actually believe that.
The thing is that not everyone knew.
You have to remember that many of these people grew up in what's basically a cult. They were brainwashed to believe that everything that didn't come out of Fox News was a lie from the enemy who wants to destroy them.
Critical thinking and questioning authority were actively punished.
It's easy to assume that everyone is as informed on politics as you are, but besides the above, many people just don't care enough to keep up to date with it.
Being irrationally stupid & living in a delusion does that.
huffing gasoline actually
To be fair, they're INCREDIBLY fucking stupid.
That's not fair. Lots of Americans across all demographics are incredibly fucking stupid, not just gen Z.
And stubborn to boot.
Why are people so stupid, we're in the information age ffs!
Because of people like Zuck, Musk, and whoever is twisting the YouTube algorithm these days. People are manipulable and they used their considerable power to manipulate young men without futures.
40+ years of Right wing propaganda and a hollowing out of our education system?
That's pretty much the nail on the head.
They feel duped because they were duped. (By the most obvious con man in history.)
This article expresses opinions which are so dumb that it hurts.
Thinking that Trump is "anti-establishment" was fucking stupid to begin with. As a millionaire he is by definition part of the elite.
And if it takes the Epstein case to realize that you have been duped you're also a bit late to the party. They have been taking everything they can from you and gave it to the rich for months now, and there is no end in sight. Enjoy working those shit jobs for minimal wages. Those that were previously done by immigrants which you wanted to see deported.
Also the whole gullible MAGA male problem is not limited to Gen Z. Being a dumb fuck is a fun activity for the whole family.
It does make the important point that MAGA cultists are not limited to boomers though, which is something a lot of younger people seems to think. Being young doesn't mean you are immune to the lure of fascism.
These people were brainwashed for decades that their biggest fears are people with darker skin tones ( and the "elite pedophile cabal"). They are happy getting fucked as long as enough of those are getting fucked aswell. I have seen so many repubes getting rock hard over the Gestapo kidnapping people that most of them would ignore Trump having sex with children in the middle of the street.
I really do not see many people in the cult caring about Epstein. While those people exist and are pretty vocal about it, most Trump-fans are so racist and so deeply entrenched in their believes that it will take a miracle to save the U.S.
I do not believe in miracles but i kind of hope for your guys sake and also mine.
but we owned the libs & beat the woke mind virus!
—them probably
Legit how some people think.
Did they not think to ask why the swamp wasn't drained during the first 4 years Trump was in office?
He was all talk about draining the swamp and building the wall in 2016 lol
The lead poisoning from vaping is getting to them.
One of the e-cigs studied released more lead during a day's use than 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.
UC Davis
I’ve smoked a pack a day for the last 30 years, and I didn’t vote for Trump. 🤷
Well a pack a day for 30 years is "only" about 10957 packs. If a vape is equal to 20 packs a day, you only need to vape for 548 days to have surpassed your lead intake.
So if they've been vaping his entire first presidency, then they have at least 40 years worth of lead intake.
lead has a sweet taste to it.
They drained the swamp and replaced it with quick sand
They drained the swamp and now people are starting to realize that the swamp was actually a very complex ecosystem necessary, teeming with diverse life and preventing hurricane storm surge from sploshing all over the eastern seaboard.
They drained the swamp and now they are left with the stench of all the rotting carcasses decaying in briney mud amidst the hottest and driest summer we've ever seen.
Ready mix concrete... Which was the Mafia tied quick set concrete that the Mafia had control over the supply of in NYC. Trump became involved because it was the concrete used in Trump towers.
Trump's mentor Roy Cohn also had Mafia ties as he often acted as their lawyer.
Swamp monster voters shocked Swamp monster won't drain his home...
I dont think they can claim they were tricked and get off the hook. They were fully aware of what they were voting for and ties to Epstein is absolutely nothing Compared to the damage trump is doing.
My fellow Gen Z are dumbasses everywhere
Do they not think for themselves? Can they not see how trump performed historically? Why did they think he would suddenly be different this time?
Older gen Z guy here. A lot of gen Z guys are dumber than bricks and have been specifically propagandized to since middle school or younger. I was part of the first wave during gamer gate and the only reason I broke free is because I have the perfect mix of autism, superiority complex, and inferiority complex which fully kicked in circa 2015 and overrid the propaganda hard. Basically I looked at Trump and came to the conclusion that I am better than him in every way even with my perpetual fuck up status and thusly anyone who supports him inherently are less than him and thusly less than me.
I broke away on a fluke of batshit insane psychology, most of these younger guys especially have to touch the stove to know it's hot.
Guess I can’t talk. Gen X was one of the biggest trump supporters, but knowing my cohort I just assumed they were all a bunch of leftover homophobes and racists like a lot of our parents were. I was mostly the same but I also have AuDHD and have an incredibly difficult time with hypocrisy and injustice, so things like religion or anyone claiming superiority over others, regardless of reason, while being an absolute tool themselves really turned me off to the whole racist and homophobic social standards of the day. Took a few years to get away from the casual, unthinking racism - not actually being hard core racist, but the casual kind where you told racist jokes and made sweeping judgements about a group while still maybe going to school with them them and getting along just fine.
I will correct you. A lot of people are dumber than bricks. At least gen z got the internet access when their brains were still free of junk that govs showed on tv 24/7. From my observations it is the older population think that god exists, and stupid fakes on tik tok are reliable source of information. What gen z lack is manners, cause their parents didnt give a shit and just ipaded their way out of parenting
Wow so rebellious and edgy to rage for the machine that is destroying us all. What a bunch of bootlicking simps….embarrassing
It's maddening to think an entire group of young men are dumb enough to think a rich douchecanoe who is by any account far from being a beacon of ethical business would be one to "drain the swamp" (to say nothing of his overall complete lack of morality). This was obvious basic populism from the start.
They haven't felt duped enough.
Finally the corruption is transparent so it’s better now.
We all know that Trump is ... mentally not the giant he thinks he is. He said "Draining the Swamp", but he really meant "Swamping the Drain".
"Swamping the drain" is the first step to "flooding the zone with shit".
Duped out of gray matter since conception
Duped out of an education that prioritises critical thinking skills by decades of vested interests.
I used to think that "the best way to have a controlled population is to have poor education" was a bit of a conspiracy theory in the 20th century. The 21st has corrected me on that one.
I agree. It sounded very conspiratorial in the beginning, but many of these people have expressed their preference for uneducated people now.
What happens when you elect the alligator to drain the swamp it lives in? Such a mystery. 🤔
gen z conservatives to be exact, also gen z in general dint vote this time as well, compared to milleneals, boomers and xers or less.
Anecdotal, but living in a very conservative area as an engineer, most coworkers (especially my age) are very left leaning. It's the technicians and old farts close to retiring that still gargle trump's balls.
This dude sounds like one of those "I have a question... for a friend" situations.
This sounds like leopards ate Trump's face, if he was going to release the Epstein files then found out he was in them.
They voted for Trump to drain the swamp!? That is like voting for Epstein to end child prostitution.
It's not just Republicans, many independents (46%) voted for Trump, and millions of major party voters sat the last election out.
Independents are now the majority of voters at about 40%, D and R 30% each. I think it's because more and more people are rejecting our two-party system in the only legal way they can, anti-incumbency may be the new norm (I am an "I").
I am surprised that so many voted for Trump. A combination of contempt of government and news ignorance? If any voters "feel duped" I think the only explanation is that they are news-free people for whatever reason. Some people cannot deal.
More like Gen X. The silent generation trying to kill us all. But sure, blame the kids.
There are fascists kids as well. You are not automatically anti-fascist just because you are young. The ranks of fascism has succesfully replenished itself through generations.
