should be fine since nothing happened
should be fine since nothing happened
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Sometimes I wonder if there's a parallel community of terminally online Chinese power posters who spam "Americans don't know about 9/11" all day.
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I get it, but the analogy falls short because the US government's officially acknowledges 9/11.
A better analogy would be terminally online Chinese power posters who spam "Americans don't know about the MOVE bombing" all day.
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the US government’s officially acknowledges 9/11
The Chinese government officially acknowledges 1989. The dispute is over who was responsible for the deaths and whether the government's subsequent response was appropriate.
A better analogy would be terminally online Chinese power posters who spam “Americans don’t know about the MOVE bombing” all day.
The US government officially acknowledges the MOVE bombing. The catch is that the Chicago PD considers their actions justified.
If you want to talk about the protests leading up to Tienanmen, you're going to need to know more than that "Tank Man Photo Exists". Most Americans have no idea why the protests occurred (outside a vague, Americanized conception of "They wanted democracy"). They don't know about the Dengist land reforms. They don't know who was leading the protests, who - in the CCP itself - tacitly supported them prior to the riot, or the degree of violence in Beijing immediately prior to the tanks rolling in. They don't know the history of the 1950s Revolution or the policy changes between Mao and Deng that culminated in protests. They don't know the inherent conflict between urban industrial workers and rural agricultural workers that had been tearing the country apart going back to the Qing Dynasty.
In the same way, you're not likely to have a lot of Chinese citizens with a deep working knowledge of US Cold War politics in Afghanistan, the British/US propping up of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia as a means of securing oil exports and establishing the petrodollar, the significance of Mecca and Medina or the chronic social pressure that US military bases within their proximity creates, the significance of the Twin Towers as a visual landmark equivalent to Wall Street investment banking, the history of Operation Cyclone, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike America", the Cheney-Era neocon movement and the Project for a New American Century, or any of the global politics that precipitated the attacks.
The analogy is, ultimately, two groups of dumbshit onliners shouting "People In The Other Country Are Stupid" to each other, without any real idea of what they're smugly asserting they know about.
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I imagine it would be about the fake evidence used as justification to invade Iraq. 9/11 isn't anything remotely comparable.
(And of course, the US is not the same, as you can talk about the Bush's perjury all day long and not get arrested. Although it is similar in that you can be brown and sent into a concentration camp.)
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you can talk about the Bush’s perjury all day long and not get arrested
You can talk shit on the internet to nobody in particular and not get arrested. As soon as you start getting national attention, the hammer drops.
John Kiriakou, Thomas Tamm, Lawrence Wilkerson, Teresa Chambers, and Chelsea Manning were all subject to investigation, firing, and some range of prosecution with varying results for efforts they made to expose Bush's administrative criminality.
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Bro we celebrate 9/11 here in America - it made us the world victim for like 20 years. Verb, noun, 9/11. I BBQ every year. I don't think our tickle fee fees are gonna be too hurt by these chinese posters. 9/11 truthers love this.
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If they hop the wall they'll see our 9/11 jokes, so no
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I don't think "T.S." means anything to most chinese...
"TS" is far from "Tian An Men Guang Chang".
It is not even sure if authorities notice it...
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Tiananmen Square? This would be dead obvious to Hong Kongers. Hell, even just '1989' is enough.
You don't see people wear shirts that openly criticize the CCP these days. Not after all the arbitrary arrests where even wearing plain black clothing was enough to incriminate you.
I don't recommend going to Hong Kong anymore. It's a husk of its former self. The streets are far emptier, and every other storefront is closed because people and business have packed up and left in droves. If you do, certainly don't wear this shirt there.
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It would be odd if you were a T.S. Elliot fan
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You reminded me of this gem:
It was just suppose to be a one-off joke, but the guy ended up having to print that shirt and sell it due to overwhelming demand.
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TaiShan 1989? Nothing happened there.
Edit: /s just in case.
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Fed posting be like
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