overwhelming furry

Lol, I'd like to see Visa and MC buildings overrun by groups of multicoloured cartoony animals.
- Furries have hated the whole "legal adult business made difficult or randomly disrupted because the payment processor companies decided they dont like you" thing for quite some time now. Ive seen multiple artists I follow in that space make multiple switches of platforms because of it and plenty more complain about them. Tho its usually been paypal that gets complained about there from what Ive seen.
- We sic the furries on them...
  
  And stand with them!
- Knowing the furries, we probably have agents in every one of those corporate data centers already. XD
  
  If they really wanted to cause damage they could just instruct their agents not to turn up since they absolutely are senior IT staff.
  The whole thing would probably fall apart within about 2 hours.
- Furries are also a part of the phoning campaign, I've seen it all over my bsky timeline. We're (the sane ones, not the 18 year old puritans) all pretty upset over it because it's pretty obvious this is yet another attempt to erase queerness online with the veneer of "protect kids" or whatever the fuck they're saying now.
  
  I'm sorry... 18 year old puritan... furries? Can you elaborate?

Calling Visa today for mine! I don't play those games, but I hate the precedent. It is not a payment processor's job to dictate what can and can't be done. (Now, I have worked FinTech for many years, there is a legit risk they are taking that the feds would blame them however -) it should be on the company selling the product itself, and any decent legal team at a payment processor would be able to handle it like a normal Tuesday.
- They don't really have this excuse though because the products that they are banning are legal in the jurisdictions in which they're banning them.
  They've been really coy about this, they're really trying to push the idea that adult content is illegal and therefore it's totally nothing to do with them. It's the standard right-wing tactic of just blatantly lying in the vague hope that somehow it'll become true.
  Is what these scumbags always do when they didn't really think it through and are now being called out on it.

So in other words, gamers are rising up?
- they are naruto walking, converging on mastercard HQ

I feel like it took much less for them to make the decision to take it away than it is to just restore it...
- Back tracking is FAR harder, ego wise.
  Part of the goal isn't to reverse it, but to slow further slips down the slope. They will remember the hassle it caused this time, and decide that it's not worth trying for an easy life from the religious nutjobs, if the gamers will kick up more of a stink.
- right wing pressure has more sway in america nowadays cause of trump

I feel this situation is only going to get worse for everyone. We as consumers, gamers or otherwise, don't really have alternatives to this monopoly. At least that I am aware of. Typically if a company acts up we can just boycott it. But what other options do we even have here?
- Cash. Start using cash again.
  
  How does one safely use cash over the internet?
- Duopoly, but yeah.
  
  quadopoly, but yeah
- Should try selling artwork and then give away a copy of a game to customers. You can't sell the game so might as well include it as a gift.

As a joking/ not so joking reference to the title. I unironically hope that this new wave of censorship attracts the ire of the Furry community. I can just see thousands and thousands of IT workers spending their spare time and money on fighting this shit instead of spending it on their hobby. I can see the potentially unlimited power.
- On it's certainly gotten their attention alright

Gamer furries
- Why would anyone ever piss off the furries? Do you WANT your internet to suddenly go at dial-up speeds?
- I mean, yeah, that’s definitely a part of them.
  Furries have felt their entire identity targeted, even the sex stuff set aside. A bit like the drag queen attacks.
- this makes me feel nostalgic and old. does anyone remember the gamers vs furries thing?

Visa just reported a quarter above expectations. Not sure if the protests are affecting anything other than the wage slaves forced to deal with their calls and emails.
- Even if it is just the wage slaves for now, it won't be for long.
  The employees get a lot more work, that's for sure.
  However, by some stroke of good luck they haven't been reolaced by AI... For now at least. Which means they do something Visa/Mastercard want/need.
  That something just so happens to be replying to real questions. These protest calls take up their time (which is the point).
  The damage also encompasses those unfortunate to actually need the call center now, of all times.
  And if Visa/Mastercard can't react to real incidents properly, some might go to a competitor or they might be on the hook for contract breaches.
  Overwhelming the call center doesn't just affect the call center personell. It affects one cog in the machine (the call center), throwing the entire machine off-balance.
  Specifically, lower call throughput limits their ability to react to incidents, which is a critical day-to-day operation with potentially disastrous consequences. Middle management of the call center and a few execs are surely panicking as we speak.

Sorry for asking a question that might be google-able but is this worldwide? I haven't been on Steam lately and don't normally purchase adult content through there anyway so I feel super out of the loop.
Also, why are they saying that adult content is not okay on those sites but they still work on actual adult sites? I'm just confused and the shit AI-generated articles I have found on this topic haven't really helped.
- So it all has to do with the extremist movement to censor online content. The argument is that 'anybody' can access Adult content, even though most of the situations there are verification, filters based on age, parental controls, etc. Since these groups weren't gaining traction on the platforms (i.e. Steam) these groups started harassing the payment processors themselves. Because the processors don't want to be held legally liable, they threaten to pull the ability to process payments through those channels (aka no more Mastercard / Visa unless you give in to our demands). So this is all or at least largely in part due to the monopoly that these payment processors have on the market. Obviously if your business is strictly online and the majority of your money comes from transactions from Mastercard and Visa, you're going to do what they say lest you risk losing the majority of your business. As a side note there has been some progress made in Europe to break up that duopoly. I don't know a lot so do your own look up but there are other payment processing options. If you can, do your part and support those companies!

They need to have the rules to apply to furry and transexual porn as well; I'm sure nothing will happen to their security infrastructure.
- removed
  That is considered a slur, btw
  
  My bad, I cant always keep up.
- Jesus Christ dude what's wrong with you

I've read through a few of these now, and I still can't figure out what the source/evidence is that has convinced people that visa and MasterCard are responsible for this. That seems to me like a pretty critical detail, but noone has mentioned it.
- The literal rule change they made that caused this explicitly states you have to follow payment processor guidelines:
  Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers.
  They also basically cofirmed this was brought up by the payment processors.
  
  Thanks!

Bring on the downvotes, but this is where crypto shines. No bullshit rug pulls by ancient payment processors.
- I'd use cryptocurrency but literally no one accepts it. Mostly because it takes 14 billion years to and a small rainforest worth of burnt trees process a transaction.
  
  Hey. Just FYI. That's all outdated now. Ethereum forked to use 99.9% less energy. (To a sustainable point). Several other coins have followed including Cardano. And transaction times on both are within minutes, sometimes seconds. (Whereas my bank takes days). Though admittedly sometimes it takes an hour or two for a transaction to complete if there's a lot of traffic.
  I buy a lot of stuff (not drugs! Wow!) through crypto - and payment processors aren't even needed. You can literally get a chrome extension to access your crypto wallet to pay for things directly. Which is why crypto is such a threat to payment processors and fiat currency. Because crypto is the same as basically opening your wallet for cash, throwing that cash at the screen, and that works to buy whatever's on it. Visa and Mastercard can get fucked.
  Bitcoins original white paper was very specific: the point of crypto is to take the power away from the assholes like Visa and Mastercard. But also from Banks and the Fed. No one person or entity should control these things. So Bitcoin decentralized them.
  And now, 15 years later, it works pretty fucking well. That's why the price has increased 1000%+ in that time.
  (EDIT: To be clear, saying someone doesn't accept Bitcoin is like saying someone doesn't accept gold. You're using the wrong digital currency. There's plenty of others that don't need payment processors for transactions.)
  
  Transaction speeds are faster than credit cards and debt cards now. Not every coin is like that (bitcoin for example still takes forever, while Digibyte is less than 1 min).
- Cryptocurrency will only be useful when we surpass capitalism
  
  That's like saying violent revolution will only be useful once we surpass Fascism.
  The wide adaptation of crypto would likely deal a killing blow to capitalism as all the bullshit fees and exploitation expected from transactions completely disappear - along with their revenue streams to capitalist overlords at Visa / Mastercard / Amazon / Google / Taxes for the Fed, etc.
  Like, you can already start defunding the bullshit happening right now by just paying for stuff with Crypto.
- You are 100% correct. The sooner people adopt crypto, the sooner Visa and Mastercard are pointless. To be clear: MODERN CRYPTO DOES NOT REQUIRE PAYMENT PROCESSORS - YOU CAN MAKE PAYMENTS DIRECTLY FROM YOUR WALLET. (And not just for drugs).
  
  Yep, making banks completely useless. People are just tied to banks because they dont want to research or actually think about a new system of payments.

- Look, twenty some odd years ago, we all saw that episode of CSI and it fucked our perception of furries. But we have to move past our sophomore-in-highschool versions of ourselves and protect people who were just minding their own business and got attacked for liking something harmless that other people don't approve of.
- Hating on us harmless lot is just thinly veiled fascist shit, because the same way DEI is code word for N****rs, furry has become the socially acceptable code for anything LGBT
  So improve yourself
  As a wise man once said, check yoself brfo yp wreck yoself
  
  Nope, I just hate furrys because I've been on the Internet and bestiality, and bestiality adjacent, is grotesquely vile. You wanna be mad at somebody? Be mad at the freaks who ruined it for the rest of y'all.