President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
This is a clickbait headline from Tom’s, as that’s not how the speech was worded. Per their own cherry picked quotes
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.
The context being he had never really heard of Nvidia before they got so high profile, like most of the US population.
Tom's does this all the time; they’re notorious for it in the PC Hardware news community.
Yes Trump is an idiot and his speeches are stupid, but can we please not have ragebait stretching it even more?
I’m sorry to keep bringing this up and getting so sour, but I feel like Lemmy's information hygiene is deteriorating, and we're happily upvoting it away. Big community mods need to put their foots down and put up basic soft rules, like:
Trying to put Trump quotes into context is like trying to read a Pollock, it's not possible and it's not supposed to be. Your interpretation really didn't change any of the meaning for me, and it certainly didn't contradict the headline.
Here's the actual video source, skipped to the relevant context:
https://youtu.be/BrTT7dX0mcQ?t=851
And if you don't want that, a clip of the auto transcript I ripped from YouTube:
...And a very special thanks to some of the top industry leaders including somebody that's amazing. I said, "Look, we'll break this guy up." This is before I learned the facts of life. I said, "We'll break them up." They said, "No, sir. It's very hard." I said, "Why?" I said, "What percentages of the market does he have?" I said, "He has 100%." I said, "Who the hell is he? What's his name?" His name is Jensen Wong. Nvidia. I said, "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He said, "You don't want to know about it, sir." I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition. And I found out it's not easy in that business. I said, "Supposing we put the greatest minds together. They work hand in hand for a couple of years." He said, "No, it would take at least 10 years to catch him if he ran Nvidia totally incompetently from now on." So, I said, "All right, let's go on to the next one." And then I got to know Jensen, and now I see why. Jensen, will you stand up? What a job. What a job you've done, man. Great. It's a great He's a great guy, too. Lisa...
Trump's clearly referencing learning about Nvidia in the past, and getting to know Jensen. He's telling a story about pondering breaking up Nvidia and putting together a government chip development effort before he learned the finer details on what they do. Tom's headline, on the other hand:
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
Is worded to imply Trump 'threatened' Nvidia blindly, or that he didn't know who Nvidia is during or just before the speech, cherry picking a quote with no context. It's technically plausibly deniable.
Call it what you want, but that is classic tabloid journalism from Tom's.
The headline contradicts what Trump was saying. It sort of contradicts their own article.
THANK YOU. I've said many times, lemmy will upvote anything they believe to be true without a second thought. Then we turn around and make fun of gullible Boomers on FaceBook.
Around 1999 I learned to fact check if a headline or meme sounded crazy. Still applies today y'all!
Totally. I remember this happening back when everyone was using forums. This is a "Social Media" problem, not just a Lemmy problem. I have no idea how to fix it, but it's been around longer than votes have been a thing.
Yeah. To be fair, everyone’s gotta slowly learn that.
But I think it’s fair for communities/mods to lay down posting standards, unless it’s like an explicit shitposting community.
but they got high profile in like the 90s three decades ago
Nobody but computer nerds had heard of NVIDIA back then. Go outside right now and snatch 10 neighbors or strangers, ask them if they know anything about the company.
I can only think of 3 people on my block who have heard of them. Me (35 years of IT), young neighbor (works county IT), young neighbor (PC gamer). Bet not another soul on the whole block would have a clue.
As my favorite YouTuber Paul Harrell (RIP) always said:
"Everything I'm saying today are my conclusions and my opinions. My opinions are based on my education, my training, my experience. Different people have different experiences so they have different opinions. I make no claim that my opinion has its origin in the mind of greatness. And if someone does tell you that their opinion has such origins, you should be very incredulous."
I mean I realize we're talking about a moron here but grammar is important:
"I've never heard of them" vs "I had never heard of them"
So no, not clickbait.
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.
The journalist pretty clearly put the quotation marks in the wrong place. It should be this:
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before.'
He's quoting himself, in the past, saying "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He's not saying that he hasn't heard of NVIDIA in the present moment. The context makes that clear, because in the next paragraph he describes how he got to know Jensen Huang and learn about NVIDIA. But the journalist closed the quote too early, making it a bit nonsensical. On this rare occasion, Trump was not being 100% incoherent.
I think it was a couple of years ago, I made a reply on a thread where people were accusing the average Reddit user of being a bot or a shill (rightly so) - anyway, my position was that Lemmy is already being infected by similar.
Oh man did people get salty; but I swear it's only been getting worse.
100%.
Frequently Lemmy left users appear as deluded as Trump supporters with their foaming at the mouth support for anything and everything anti Trump.
It's like hating Trump is a personality trait now, it's fucking sad.
It's also how we got Trump. We overfed the troll.
I mean, I don't have a problem with hating Trump being a personality trait. explain why I should like him, he represents everything I despise and is making my country somehow am even bigger laughing stock of the world. Now I obviously know this is a problem with American elites...far beyond trump but he's effectively the CEO of the country and as such would be the person to blame.Just as they like to say Biden this Obama that Clinton this other thing...not that any of it matters anyways because obviously one single person doesn't control much anyways as people should know
I mean I think he's a character and fun to watch sometimes, but that's about it. don't really know how you can make Trump look worse than he already does with his hateful vile words and disgraceful record. he's brought a new level of corruption to an already corrupt office, which I find quite astounding
I can't see how anyone would be like, 'why are people so quickly anti trump' if you ask me-- noone with braincells and good intentions should be supporting him (or the Dems for that matter)! but certainly not an administration that is actively covering up one of the greatest child trafficking rings in modern history.
sorry for the rant but I just truley do not get this take 😭
I'd be more shocked if I came to lemmy and it read like r/conservatives
Wait until he learns they make chips. I can totally see him saying if Lay's can make chips in the US then why can't nvidia?
"No, no, no, I like Pringles, Pringles are amazing, Pringles are great. Everybody here at the Oval Office loves Pringles, we can't get enough of'em."
Edit: on second thought... maybe you're right, Lay's come in bags, doubt those paragons of stupidity ever managed to figure out how the can works...
Took me a second more then I care to admit.
Here I am thinking what does Lay's have to do with chips, made of silicon.
This is the guy who, as president, literally asked "who knew health care was so complicated". And more recently, he thought he could waltz in any stop the fighting in the Middle East just by telling Israel and Palestine to get along, then threw a hissy fit when that didn't work.
How anyone takes this man seriously or thinks he's anything but a complete moron is beyond me. Not knowing what the fuck he's doing is literally his only move.
Art of the Deal
Apart from the fact that Trump is a pedophile, rapist, fascist, and a criminal, he and his entire administration are also incredibly incompetent.
Omg, this guy's the fucking President of the USA... (I do have object permanence, yes, but he's so fucking dumb, that I frequently re-experience the shock)
Did you hear that he found proof (not evidence!) that Obama was "sedacious"?
Was his proof cutting up all the times his name appeared in the Epstein files and then spelling "OBAMA BAD" with the few letters of what was left?
I once saw Obama having a covfefe.
... my brain wants to assume it's "seditious," but my heart knows any assumption would be bold when it's about what Trump meant...
This felon rapist pedo is tanking fast.
😭😭😭 needs to go faster
Good, NVIDIA can die for all I care with their anti consumer bullshit practises.
Good.
Now tell nvidia they can continue if they play nice with linux and use it as a bribe. And then call Adobe...
How easy it was to make you aggree with trump.
Tim Nvidia will be pissed
You have to be kidding me. Mr AI president doesn't know Nvidia? Their stock like quadrupled in value because of AI
Do it you fucking coward. While we're at it, intel and amd as well. The tech oligopoly needs to fall
Intel is at deaths door. You just need a gentle push…
I’m glad they are at least trying to get into the GPU part of the business now.
Please take away Chrome and Andriod from Google first, please. Thank you.
also fuck Donald Trump, illiterate pedophile fuck.
Whenever a company has reached a critical size or control of the market that it is no longer incentived to serve the interests of its customers and starts serving its shareholder's instead, it should be broken up. This is the only way you will see actual innovation and positive growth again.
Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Nvidia, Meta are only a few in a long list that are long overdue to be broken up.
That being said, Trump is more believably saying that to scare them into giving him a bride. He just pulled his head out of his ass just enough to hear about a "new" company with deep pockets and smelled the money.
Bet he won't be able to remember being a pedophile when the time comes.
Let him cook that one though
If Amerika makes so much energy maybe Canada should turn off our supply to them
nVidia? I barely even know her.
You know what? Good. Do it. Let’s see what happens.
some people on this thread need to understand that two things can be true,
the headline can be misleading yea but it can also not really matter
in other words, I'm the grand totality of all the actually harmful things he has said and actions he is doing... this feels like a nothing burger to me lollll. So people think he can just wear his little fingers and Nvidia magically breaks up? even if he goes after th administratively, it's not like Nvidia would just roll over 😭it's just absurd to even take this seriously in the first place imo. idk I think it's funny people are debating about what he actually said when it doesn't really matter, dudes going senile and Nvidia is gigantic corporation that can defend itself and also fuck it I wouldn't mind if they got broken up tbh. people will find whatever to argue about
I smell another "lawsuit" that is totally legit guys I swear, and NVidia just happens to settle out of court with DJT to the tune of millions even though every laywer/judge on the planet says the case is without merit. Move along, justice working as expected.
Oh neat, the tech flavored distraction, place your bets on whats next. My bet is he tried that freedom fries shit again.
I am so sick of that fucking traitor cunt.
Fun
Kinda clears up his motives when he doesnt even know the name of the countrys, even the worlds, largest company. Well fucking done, Mr. Clownident.
when trump is evil but the nvidia ceo is even eviler.
Has the Nvidia CEO sent swathes of innocent people into concentration camps?
And man, Trump's not even the most evil in his administration. That arguably goes to Stephen Miller.
