We Need to Talk About Pedocon Theory

Stop telling yourself it's a few bad apples.
The whole saying is "A few bad apples spoil the bunch." Saying that some people in a group are just a few bad apples doesn't imply that the larger group is sound. It suggests that the entire group is spoiled.
Edit to add: For anyone who hasn't seen it, here's a list of 1,376 (and counting) Republican sexual predators, abusers, and enablers.
- That "it's only a few bad apples" would be a reasonable answer if that system gets rid and punishes those bad apples.
  But if the system protects and ignores those bad apples, then the whole system is rotten
- It does drive me crazy how people butcher that expression.
  
  Right up there with pulling oneself up by their bootstraps, which was coined to make fun of rich fucks thinking this was somehow possible.
- "..the barrel." Apples don't come in bunches, but at the time the saying was coined they were carted around like that. (Also it only took one, not a few.)
  (I suppose the modern version is "one nazi spoils the bar.")

What if this takes down Donald and half of Washington?
- honestly, I'm perfectly okay with it taking down all of washington, if it comes to that.
  
  we are supposed to form a more perfect union.
  maybe next time without all the greed, racism, and I think we can all agree no pedos too..
  
  I’m sure the Canadians would be happy to help again.
  
  This is the part I love. There are MAGA folk who are like "Bill Clinton is in the files too" and I'm like "hell yeah, lock him up". Shit, lock up every person that visited that island. Drain the swamp, as it was said. If there were democrats that went there, lock them all up. Lock up the movie stars, and whoever else. These are fucking pedophiles.
- Lose at BINGO because I do not have "Pizzagate conspiracies coming back to bite republicunts in the ass and take em down in the process" on my bingo card
  
  I have "Previous propaganda subjects backfire" on mine am I still in?
- Win-win.
- Drain the swamp!
- I call that a good start!
- We're not that lucky.

The entire top level of the current GOP is a pedophile, christofascist cult.
- Guardians Of Pedophiles
- “If we don’t sin then Christ died for nothing” - Mike Johnson, probably

I think what this is pointing out is that those who want to abuse will find a system that gives them systematic power to abuse. So these people will be naturally drawn to systems where they have power and a support system to protect them. So its a self selecting group who are looking to abuse are drawn to system with strong hierarchical structures.

Someone should cover Tim Minchin’s ‘The Pope Song’, but targeting Trump/GOP.

You misspelled pedocon "fact"
- 'theory' in the scientific sense
  
  Right. A theory correctly predicts behavior, until proven otherwise

They should have let him empty his shitbag he looks backed up.

This was a new idea to me. That patriarchy and absolute power were connected to abuse and rape. I feel like someone just turned the lights on.

This list is suggestive. Stop telling yourself it's a few bad apples. Stop telling yourself "there are pedophiles in every large enough organization." There are not this many pedophiles in every political party. Both sides are not the same. When Slate went looking for an equivalent list of Democratic pedophiles, they were able to come up with: a random donor, the head of a local Young Democrats, and Anthony Weiner's sexts. Not a speaker of the House, a Chief Justice, and a President.
The article suggests pedos are natural-born conservatives - or vice-versa. My theory is that there are probably as many pedos in the Democratic party, but they're smart enough not to get caught.
- Or the right wing has a much higher concentration of people devoid of empathy, a necessary trait to assault a child.
  
  Lack of empathy is the core root cause of SO MANY right wing causes. It kills me because empathy itself is the core teaching of Christianity. If they were actually good Christians, they would live their lives undo the credo "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Anyway, I find Satanists (TST, specifically) and Leftists far more empathetic.
- It’s wild that, despite not having any evidence to supprt your theory, you’re still trying to “both sides” this one.
  You need to deal with the fact that conservatism attracts terrible people. Maybe a couple stupid people get fooled by some obvious propaganda but the overwhelming majority are simply excited by the cruelty the ideology offers. It’s entire core value is in assigning different values to people and the range is so large that it’s happy to be as close to slaves and kings as society will allow.
  Absolutely I’ll bet there are some shady center-right Democrats that the US believes are leftists. Fact is that most of them are just greedy which is what keeps them as centrists instead of going full fascist. You have to look at the information staring you in the face and accept that the further right one goes the worse company there is to be kept.
  
  I don't think it "attracts" bad people. I think they actively seek out pedophiles so that they have blackmail material. Then they put them in power to control them.
  
  It’s wild that, despite not having any evidence to supprt your theory, you’re still trying to “both sides” this one.
  It's wild that people think that writing a lewd note to a paedophile makes you a paedophile. This is not a discussion where people are going off evidence.
- Based on what?
  
  Probably his own predilections
  
  Based on his developmental deficiencies most likely
- It's not so much that pedos are natural born conservatives as it is that MAGA style conservatism is the political expression of pedophilia. It's sort of like how conservatism is the political expression of billionaire oligarch interests - there are some liberal billionaires but not as many because the conservative side is the one structured around pursuing the class interests of billionaires.
- Nooooooo how dare you not hate only The Enemy and suggest something is wrong with Our Team?

If this theory were true than Biden would have released the Epstein files. Both parties are complicit.
- I'm not sure about that. If Biden had released them, they would have been able to spin it as them being 'doctored' or other bullshit. Honestly, there were ways to release them, at least partially, in a way that both appeased his base and covered his ass. Instead, they decided to make themselves look guilty AF with the "take the claw in the face, roll around on the ground, and die" strategy.
  
  So fucking what? When you know trump is going to release it edited, as it seems like he’s already in the process of doing, which was obvious to anybody with a brain during the election, why the fuck wouldn’t you preemptively release them? I mean besides the obvious reason, what could possibly be the logic here? Unless the argument is that it’s pure stupidity, which comes with its own issues therein of itself.
- Dept of Justice declassified them on Jan 9th this year. He was a little busy that week doing a massive pile of other things, besides Trump had promised to release them, why would he prioritise something no one was asking for ahead of things like student debt relief and pardons for non violent drug offenders ?
  https://old.reddit.com/r/50501Movement/comments/1m6l94x/why_didnt_biden_release_the_epstein_files_a/
  
  So the files were unsealed for a year during Bidens administration and they still weren't released?
- Biden respected the law, though. The files were sealed by a judge until after Ghoulaine Maxwell's trial. They weren't unsealed until after Jan 2024. Biden couldn't, by law, release them.
  Biden didn't run a cult. He allowed the DOJ to operate independently of the executive, unlike Trump who demands loyalty oaths and treats every agency like his personal operatives.
- That's the current Fox News whataboutist talking point. Did you even read the article?
  
  Yeah, I did, or else I wouldn’t have even known what pedocon meant. We already know there’s going to be some democrats on the list, or at the very least their donors. I don’t understand why this one isn’t a valid point.
- Ok, but right now way more Republicans are for sure on that list(they just can’t seem to leave kids alone) and Biden isn’t in power to release the thing. Also leftists don’t particularly like Biden all that much, and it’s funny when the right thinks they’ve figured out a gotcha because it’s just a projection of how much they’ll let their own guy off the hook for stuff they know is awful.
  If most of the Democrats go down then most of their voters would be largely ok with that. And at least the Democrats have made some moves to push this issue forward in the last couple weeks, which for them is refreshing given how little energy they often put into anything at all.
- It's weird this conversation sticks to democrats and Republicans. How many leaders from other countries would be implicated in this list? Either way Biden is a removed for not releasing it, but I'd believe an excuse that he didn't want to potentially fuck up 10 alliances with other countries before I believe he was protecting some pedo dems. I wouldn't accept the excuse, but I'd believe it.
  Names should be released regardless of party or country. Let the chips fall
  
  Yep totally agree with everything you said.