Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was only guest, says report
Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was only guest, says report
The real criminals here are....Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though! Something something argle bargle "coup" ten years ago! Why won't the liberals see that?!!!
Am I taking crazy pills or did everyone else miss that this was supposed to be Trump words? This is the exact thing he would say, and has said to try and distract from himself.
The real criminals here are…Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though!
Is now a bad time to point out that Gislaine was invited to Chelsea's wedding? Hell, Epstein had a long ongoing relationship with Bill Clinton. To say the Clintons are culpable is an understatement.
Meanwhile, Obama and Biden are - at a bare minimum - guilty of chronic inaction. Trump's been engaged in money laundering for the various east coast mafias and eastern human trafficking gangs for decades and gone virtually untouched.
You can squeeze your eyes and pretend Obama - a man notorious for not prosecuting wealthy crooks - isn't to blame. But Biden? Criminal negligence boarding on treason.
Adam Schiff is, similarly, deliberately blind to the role Silicon Valley has played in a functional coup of the California and US governments. Bare minimum, he is complicit through inaction.
I mean. It's all of them. The entire reason this is being suppressed is because it's touches all of our ruling class. Trump is the only one dumb enough to think he could get away with using it to his advantage without consequences. And, honestly, he probably won't see consequences anyway. So, maybe he's actually the smart one. At least in terms of fooling American idiots and getting elected.
He's right. He doesn't need them now. So he's doubling down on those that will follow him literally anywhere. And those are the people he'll call on for another January 6th.
Let's not pretend Bill Clinton wasn't Epstein's buddy too. The DNC is just as disgusting, and until liberals realize they're actually just neo-liberals, nothing change.
Your downvotes won't take Bill Clinton off the Epstein client list, you're denying it exactly like Magats deny Trump's.
Nobody here is defending Bill, and he's not the POTUS. Your whataboutism is gross.
Bill Clinton isn't currently president. Focus on the real problem first, and surprisingly you'll probably pull the rest down with him. Weird, eh?!
The bullshit-ass false equivalency benefits fascists, so I guess you're outing yourself as one here. Whoops.
Bill Clinton was a sleazy fuck. He used his position to get a blowie from an intern and a big deal was made of it. But I'm pretty sure the only one who tried to cover it up was the man himself. But to the best of my knowledge he didn't rape children at organised child rape parties with other child rapists. If it comes out that he did, then lock his ass up and throw away the key. A pedo's a pedo. Politics doesn't matter here.
Ничельный insult в русском языке.
We already know about clinton comrade. But Epstein said he was best friends with Trump for 15 years. That more relevant because he's the president today.
You’re not getting downvoted because people are denying Clinton is probably on the list; you’re getting downvoted for saying anyone is defending it.
Get the list, investigate every single person on it, punish anything we can prove. As the justice system is supposed to work.
Jokes on you I don't like Bill Clinton either or any other child molesters
I don't know a single liberal that doesn't want Clinton to get arrested if he's on the list.
You're getting down voted for arguing with what is VERY OBVIOUSLY a sarcastic impression of a right winger response. No one is denying anything, you just decided to argue with a joke
Fucking team sports man. But in politics it's apparently who is less of a pedophile this week.
BlueMaga almost as dumb as Maga I swear.
...downvoters ok with fucking kids?...
Maybe due to how they where not invited?
Pretty sure this was reported on before the 2016 election and nobody gave a shit.
All his voters wanted to be at the party. When the "grab them by the pussy" tape was revealed, his voters donned "Trump can grab me by the pussy" t-shirts.
Rape culture is the default in USA.
That tape had more impact than it gets credit for. My parents were die-hard Republicans until HitlerPig came along. They were very ambivalent, but were still planning to vote for him when the tape came out. That sealed it.
For the next two years, whenever his name came up, my Mom would go on a rant, starting with "I don't know how any woman could vote for that man..."
She despises him to this day, and "despises" is far to polite a word. I'm not sure a word exists to describe how much she hates him.
Nooooooo trust me bro the list will ruin him bro, trust me. Just one more rape allegation and we beat facism bro they just have to release the list.
It will be our little secret party 🫲🍊🫱
Guys. I think he raped kids.
You "think"?
On Truth Social, President Donald J. Trump issued a bold and unequivocal statement today blasting what he called a “DISGUSTING, DESPERATE, and TOTALLY FAKE” media smear campaign, denying reports that he hosted a private party for young women with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as the only other invited guest.
“LET ME BE VERY CLEAR,” Trump said from his Mar-a-Lago estate. “I NEVER — and I mean NEVER — HOSTED ANY PARTY WITH EPSTEEN OR WHATEVER. NEVER HAPPEND. TOTAL FICTON. Just more LIES from the FAILING FAKE NEWS MEDIA.”
The allegation, first published in The New York Times is based on statements by Florida businessman George Houraney and claimed a gathering at Trump’s Florida property included young women and only one other guest—Jeffrey Epstein. Trump called the implication “SICK, TWISTED NONSENSE from a LOSER who I REFUSED to give a job to, even though HE BEGGED ME!.”
“JEFFREY EPSTEEN? I BANNED HIM FROM MAR-A-LAGO, OKAY? He was a VERY BAD GUY. Everyone KNOWS IT. The WORST. Unlike SLICK WILLIE CLINTON — who was flying on the ‘LOLCITA EXPRESS’ like, what, 30 times? SAD!”
Trump went on to recount an alleged emotional encounter with a supporter. “A VERY STRONG MAN came up to me, big guy, tough — real tough — tears in his eyes. And he said, ‘SIR, THANK YOU for NEVER going to that party. THANK YOU for KICKING OUT EPSTEEN.’ And I said, ‘I KNOW.’ He cried. It was beautifull. Most people wouldn’t understand.”
Team Trump emphasized that “no credible evidence exists” of any such party and warned that legal action may be taken against “SLANDEROUS HACKS” in the press.
“IT’S ALWAYS FAKE NEWS,” Trump concluded. “THEY’VE BEEN LYING SINCE THE ESCALATOR. TOTAL WITCHUNT. VERY UNFARE!”
I can’t tell if this is real or satire 🙃
Intentional misspelling of Epstein for plausible deniability?
Someone forgot to tell grumpy gramps that his caps lock was on.
...we're fine with killing kids, but fucking them?...
How about not being okay with both?
cheers mate, you figured it out...
Who are you referring to with your "we're" here? The Republicans definitely are fine with both.
The hits keep coming
It’s so icky how they try to use “young women”
No wonder why he is deflecting so hard. He has walked back so much stuff other than harming people and ruining economy.
Didn't the whole Epstein stuff come up when he decided to run for president? I always wondered if he only ran to be in better control of the fallout.
He ran to avoid jail.
Lines up with Katie Johnson's testimony (source)
Dude couldn't look more guilty if he tried.
Once?
All of this news coming out now show you just how terrible democrats are at being a real opposition party. All of this was known and it never came to the attention of the media.
To be fair, this was all information that was published before. Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.
Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one. Saw someone post the other day that they went to Epsteins wikipedia page and had completely forgotten large swathes of it. Its just too much, too fucked up, for people to hold on to it.
And the worst part is, none of it is hidden. The video from the 90s (maybe early aughts) that had him speaking about his good friend ‘who, you know, likes them a little on the young side,’ was from Inside Edition (iirc). Dude casually admitted his friend was a pedo and it gets published as a puff piece.
None of this is new, none of this is unknown, its just unbearably fucked up.
Not as unique as you might think. This might be an elite class issue. A lot of people knew about Harvey Weinstein before he got metooed.
I'm sure a sizeable portion of them think it makes him a real stud.
This isn't an exclusively Trump scandal. Epstein has his hooks in dozens - if not hundreds - of people. Billionaires like Bill Gates and politicians like Bill Clinton and royals like Andrew Edwards, Prince of York This is at least as big as the Jack Abramoff scandal from the Bush Jr era, a scandal that DeLay inadvertently engineered as exclusively Republican through his K-Street project.
It isn't a simple messaging problem. It goes to the foundations of fundraising, candidate selection, and bureaucratic organization. Far too many people are dirty within the upper ranks of both parties.
A lot of it was out. The Republicans refused to believe it until now.
Many will still do mental gymnastics to rationalize it away.
Just like liberals refuse to believe Democrats are involved too, and that's the real reason they've ignored it the whole time.
From top to bottom, from Bill Clinton to Alan Dershowitz, the Democrats are not your friends.
Trump is not the only wealthy person involved. The people that own both parties don't want themselves and their friends implicated. Bill Clinton, Bill Gates etc
I think it's more a testament to how much the average american ignores, I don't think anything new has really been released regarding Epstein and Trump. Mostly rehashing similar acqusations that have been floating around for years.
I mean there is sworn testimony of him raping an ex-wife https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-exwife-claim-he-raped-her-resurfaces-in-new-documentary-a6836151.html but that never got any traction.
Yeah this isn't exactly true. I'm pretty sure this was reported on before 2016, and people just didn't care then.
But yes, Democrats are awful at messaging and drop the ball at every opportunity.
Which "people"? I thought/think it's fucked up and I wish it was a bigger issue. It's literally media/hegemony that chooses which tales to hype or bury.
The billionaire media moguls like the Murdochs, Bezos and Musk don't care for the idea of removing Jerome Powell from chair of the fed and they already got their big bill and Vance. Donald is used up and they can keep this from going away until it gives Donny a stroke from the constant stress.
It shows there are more Democrats on the list than Bill Clinton.
Who cares, reveal them all.
At times, it's like watching the Washington Generals play the Harlem Globetrotters.
"C'mon guys! They're not even playing real basketball anymore! Get back in there and take back our civil rights and public services!"
The neoliberal wing behind the party while this was all happening and Biden was just president is no longer in charge of the DNC.
It makes no sense to blame the current DNC for anything before February.
It's not just a different guy at the desk, it's the same as blaming a Dem president for what the last Republican did.
Meaning the current DNC won't work against a candidate willing to disclose all of it. However they won't work against any candidate in the general. That's why MSM is desperate to convince people that change never happened. They want to depress primary turnout.
If it was the same group of people in charge, the media would be still saying the DNC is the only other option and we can't criticize anything they do.
It's like how the best time to buy gold is when places advertise for you to sell it, and the worst time is when they advertise for you to buy it.
Just do the opposite of what a billionaire says we should do, and things will probably work out for the rest of us.
I kinda feel like this is giving 'em a little too much credit. However, I can't argue with your overall argument, nor the logic you present to get there.
That said, the general nature of the problem hasn't changed. The blatant corruption that is directly enabled by the vile (and, in my not so humble opinion, treasonous) Churches United ruling has redefined the playing field. Basically, only the corrupt have any realistic chance of election nationally, which completely undermines the democratic part of our government. (And yes, democracy only plays a part in a republic style government. The US has never been a "democracy".)
My own takeaway is to focus my attention more on local elections. They have always been far more important than most people realize (myself included), now even more so. If there's any chance of reversing the terrible damage being wrought, it starts locally. This is true whether you believe in working with, or against, the current system.
And again, this isn't meant as an attack on your own argument. I knew about the change in DNC leadership, but I've been overlooking both it's potential significance, as well as that of the current media framing - specifically the lack of "only other option" type statements. Thank you for your perspective!
Edit/P.S. The reaction to David Hogg's actions are a good example of why I continue to be skeptical of the DNC. On the other hand, what else could anyone expect, really. That man has definitely piqued my curiosity, though, and I hope we see more from him down the line.
You're hilarious.
What? Epstein has been a major story for the last 10 years, at least since he was first arrested in 2006.
They did. Just as the media reported on all Trumps lies, the problem is that his voters couldn't give a shit about any of it.
Democrats are also on the list. Nevar forgat that Trump said he'd run as a Democrat if he evar ran.
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I’m not seeing a need for correction. Not this one anyway.