Firefox Finally Outperforming Google Chrome In SunSpider

It's interesting how we all are focusing on tiny non-noticeable performance gains when privacy is what matters in browsers.
Almost as if Google wants us to focus on performance where they can compete.
- Performance absolutely matters. I've dropped firefox like 5 times in the past 10 years because either it's stability with extensions was bad, or it handled tabs so poorly it felt like memory leaks dragging my entire PC down. At the end of the day you have to actually be able to use the browser.
  Performance absolutely matters.
  And I am trying firefox again and have experienced two crashes. i'm still giving it a chance but I need to stress that the most important thing is that it fulfills it's main purpose, browsing . If my #1 concern was privacy I wouldn't bother with the browsers altogether.
  edit: It is worth mentioning I don't think performance has anything to do with privacy, and firefox could absolutely have both. It just hasn't in my experience.
  
  Two crashes after you just installed it? That's not normal at all. What system do you have?
  
  I've literally never had ff crash on me. are u running really old hardware?
  
  Imagine giving away a nice browser for a 10% performance increase but now your new browser forces you to watch their ads or it won't load the pages you need to visit.
  all the time you saved using "performant Browser" in the past couple of years, the mere minutes or hours, will be overshadowed by a single year of forcefully watching ads on every single website there is.

Firefox can be as slow as it wants. I will not betray little orange baby.
- There are some things in Firefox that I don't agree with, but it's sure as hell I won't ever install chrome on any of my devices
- Fennekin all the way

"Meanwhile for the newer and more demanding JetStream 2.0 benchmark, Google Chrome continues to win easily over Firefox"
Lol
- And weirdly, Safari of all things kicks Firefox’s and Chromes ass at SunSpider and JetStream, and by a very wide margin.
  https://arewefastyet.com/mac/benchmarks/overview?numDays=60
  
  I wouldn't say that's weird on the contrary it is really expected. Safari is only available on Mac machines. So it is optimized better.
  
  Probably because it's much smaller with less "bloat". No addon support, much smaller, proprietary, no advanced settings (or any at all). Just Webkit with a search bar. (So basically just bullshit).
- I need a benchmark for how fast a browser allows me to mindlessly reopen the same bookmark(s) even though I just closed the tab(s). That’s my most common task in Firefox.
  
  In case that helps in any way, ctrl+shift+t is the shortcut for undo close tab. It's one of the most helpful browser shortcuts I know.
- Phoronix has always had a strong editorial bias. No mention that Firefox has recently caught up on Speedometer 3 or the other benchmarks Firefox is faster than Chrome in.

That's crazy and all 👍, but it won't make me do the switch from Netscape Navigator
- You're just running a really really old version of firefox

Who tf cares when one is proven to not only seamlessly surveil its users but threatens the very option to block ads

Is speed for you nowaday that important (i guess no because we probably all use firefox). I mean sure a browser needs to work on it's performance, but i don't think the browser performance influence my choice that much because all of them do a decent job in almost all cases.
- Agreed. I don't get this obsession with marginal speed differences. Stability and privacy and ethics are together 1000 times as important as a 10ms speed boost. I have used Firefox continuously since it was in beta (except for about 6 months of Chrome 15 years ago, when Chrome was still harmless). Today there is literally no choice any more for anyone who understands the internet and cares about their own freedom. It's Firefox or bust. Any speed edge Firefox has is an anecdotal bonus, all but irrelevant.
- In the past years I had heard a lot the argument that people are using chrome because it's way faster.
  
  It's the classic tech argument
  "I use this because I care about y" "but it's worse at y?" "Y isnt really that important to me"
- Especially if the difference is 10 ms

i like firefox because cute fox

that's cool and all but I must have déjà vu because I swear I've seen this exact post like several times in the past week

This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mozilla developers are celebrating that they are now faster than Google Chrome with the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark, although that test has been superseded by the JetStream benchmark.
Last week a new Firefox Nightly News was published that outlines that "We’re now apparently beating Chrome on the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark!"
The provided numbers now show Firefox easily beating Chrome in this decade-old JavaScript benchmark.
Meanwhile for the newer and more demanding JetStream 2.0 benchmark, Google Chrome continues to win easily over Firefox:
Besides Firefox running the JavaScript SunSpider benchmark much faster over the roughly past month, there's been work on the HTTP/2 upload speed improvements, and various other enhancements.
Learn about the latest Firefox Nightly build advancements via the Firefox Nightly News.
I'm a bot and I'm open source!

Firefox on android has genuinely become decent af and quite quick. I've been reporting a view bugs i've had on android and it seemed the GPU on some phones was causing stuter. They've solved all of that .
Still some basic features I wish they had though (Tab stacking plz)
- I kinda killed chrome from my phone using adb and ff is really decent on android !!
- On my phone the new firefox for android is much, much slower than the old one, even though it rarely has any tabs open (because I barely use it). Old firefox with a few dozen tabs is much more performant for me.
  
  Old Firefox - are you talking about version >79, with no security updates and designed for popular phones of 2019 like the Galxy A10 with 2GB RAM?
  8 tabs on the latest FF android uses like 900MB RAM which isn't a problem for most 2023 devices with 6+GB

Don't worry Google is clearly outperforming in one thing: DRM

The Perfect Storm.
Google is going off the rails, forcing users to watch ads, forcing browsers to comply with invasive drm.
This is likely going to end the Chrome Regime.
- Please drink verification can

It still isn't THAT fast on my okayish laptop, but on my friend's beast of a PC (I made him switch to Firefox last year lol), this browser runs amazing. It gives chromium browser a run for their money, really. So I guess it all depends on hardware.
God I wish I had a good system and not just a laptop with a 6th generation processor :( Because Firefox since v113 has been improving drastically.

Nice, it seems like the only browser worth using due to privacy and its stance on adblockers. It's a welcome bonus that it performs comparably as well.

Firefox on Android is a battery drainer. Edit: Even on Windows.
I hope they do more optimisation to improve battery backup.

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