1y ago

"What do we do now?" - LMG's response to the recent controversies

At least, some of the recent controversies.

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Guess, I am out of the loop.
After Linus blasted people using ad-blockers (fucking hypocrite), I uh, just blocked his channel.
- When did he do that?
  
  About a year ago.
  
  The uh, irony.... is this:

So I just watched the entire team apologize for Linus and then Linus proceeded to attempt to gaslight everyone watching.
Fuck this guy.

Big shout out to them leaving the links to LTT merch in the description. Venal fucks.
- The part witch Nick plugging LTT store was cringe
  
  EDIT: did not know about the allegations from the former employee and it just saddens me. I was only aware of the cooling block and it's auctioning when I wrote this.
  This thread you made is cringe. Grow tf up and try to have some understanding for once in a while.
  Big corporations will always pull fake apologies and complain that consumers are beligerent little hotheads who's opinion doesn't matter in the long run. You're proving their point right now.
  But if say LTT actually does pull out of this amicably and their words are followed by prompt action that remedies the situation, we can in turn look at Intel, AMD, Nvidia and the likes and say "see? That's how it's done".
  As tech jesus himself said in his expose video is that we all make mistakes.
  Do not attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity, and the way LMG has been working has been stupid.
  Don't give the bastards an inch, I understand. But let us be clear about who the bastards are and I still don't think LMG has gone over to the side of evil.
  Now they're stepping back, taking the time to make amens (I hope they really give that company they shafted a much needed boost for instance, as a bare minimum) and we should be here for that.
  If you're just here to whine, fine. But don't think you're adding to the conversation or saying anything meaningful, because you are in fact just trolling.
  Again, try and have some understanding. It's very important for us to do that, because secterianism and feudes will in the end hurt the community, and also the consumer, because we have to stay on top of this.

@Chozo The end of the video:
But Dbrand did offer
... is basically advertisement for the brand, packed into "a joke". Why would they mention it otherwise?

Monetizing an apology video of all things says it all.

From the majority of the team, this is a pretty good and textbook PR mea culpa. "Here's how we screwed up, here's how we're fixing it."
The pushing the merch was tone-deaf and the defensive whining from Linus was NOT on-point, though. I appreciate it ended with "how I'm going to fix it," but he should keep the defensive shit to himself.
- It would be better if the CEO could learn to read a prompter so it looks like he's not reading one.
  This is pretty annoying to watch with his eyes looking above the camera and going left and right constantly.
- Glad to see this video, even with some of the drawbacks mentioned in the comments. I think everyone needs a path to redemption and LMG should get a chance. I think that this "reflection" should be more regular. LMG is no longer a small company and like it or not, they need to regularly be ahead of these situations. I really hope that they will take a week ever month or two to review any new screw ups and remedy them. Process will not solve everything, ensuring a company culture that has key values will triump process. It takes time however. I wish them the best.
  
  I run a small company, at what size do I need to start worrying about treating people respectfully? My belief is companies shouldn't get a pass, no matter the size. Why are we ok with it happening at all at this point? It's not 1960 anymore.

Other than the Madison Reeves post I just read, I am completely out of the loop on the LTT controversy. That said, I made it about 1/3 of the way through the video before I had to stop it. I know very little about these guys but that video is infuriating.
- Short and sweet summary as called out by Gamers Nexus:
  Testing methodology sux and results are not sanity checked, thereby misleading consumers.
  If errors are caught, they are corrected poorly and acknowledged with asterisks or in description, which does not put enough of a spotlight on it.
  Trashing on a small company (billet labs) that makes dope coolers for performing poorly due to improper testing and not retesting because "I don't wanna spend 500 bucks"
  Not returning the prototype which was sent to them by billet labs for testing and AUCTIONING IT OFF (allegedly to a potential competitor) at LTX.

IMO a good answer and directly adresses my biggest stated problem of "we know stuff goes wrong, but we don't care about them" (see https://lemmings.world/comment/1218294)
The thing about Madison: if true it's very concerning, but for now it's only one person who told about these problems and I don't know her enough to trust her like that without proof. In contrast: I trust GN and they showed proof
But that doesn't mean you should ignore these accusations and I would like to see an answer from LMG.
This is MY opinion on this matter. Your opinion may vary!

Actions speak louder than words...
- Their action was to monetize the apology video, which is especially funny after Gamers Nexus explicitely didn't monetize their video. They advertised their shop and floatplane and teased a new product. Just incredible.

I always assumed this guy was a d-bag.
- Brought to you by our sponsor, dbrand.

Oh my god i am so tired of seeing posts about this, PLEASE can we give it a rest? i want to leave this trend hounding shit on reddit
- It's been like 3 days dude, calm down.
- Browse link aggregator website. Complain about links being aggregated

I am carefully optimistic about this. They addressed the problems and seem to take some time to fix them. I hope they will focus on quality over quantity as they promised.
- After all the shit Madison revealed, you’re going to give these creeps a chance?
  The PC world truly is a toxic cesspool if you can sand behind these assholes a second longer.
- It's damage control.
  
  Of course it is. But admitting errors and avoiding to make them again is a pretty effective form of damage control, and it is the kind we should want from any company.

Just recently a creator I watch talked about how YouTubers sometimes create drama between each other to gain more relevance. Then they go for drinks together. Is this the case here? No way to realistically know for sure.
- Probably not from Gamers Nexus' side of things. Their video is very professional, and focuses on the damage done to other companies featured on the channel, and challenges LTT and LMG to be more professional. They also said in their followup that they won't be making any more videos on the topic, their goal was to raise awareness, and now it's LTT's responsibility to decide what to change, if anything. Is LTT playing it up as drama? Maybe, but I think it's more likely that they want it treated as drama rather than legitimate criticism so that they can ignore it and move on, rather than to increase attention/ relevance.
- I don't think Gamers Nexus would do something like that, they have a good history of calling out companies for bullshit they try and pull. doing that would damage their reputation.

Relax. So they made some mistakes. Cringe mistakes that could easily be avoidable (a lot like much of my life has been). Either they do better in the future or they die. People are getting so upset and enraged it looks like this is something that matters. They are still fun, I like them. Im rooting for them to improve!
- Ooh, it gets WAY worse than "some mistakes"...

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