Really? The sound is horrible...

As a homeless guy that hangs out at McDonald's everyday, this hits close to...well, not "home" 😅
- This hits close to current location? :)
  PS, hope you find a place to live soon.
  
  Don't get me started on people that wear too much cologne or perfume 😅
  Thank you 🫂
- Free wifi?
  
  Cheap food and the staff doesn't chase me off most of the time.
- I remember used to live in a house very close to McDonalds. We'd just walk there and open up a laptop (very cheap one) outside to use their free wifi. No money for internet lmfao.
  Thinking about it makes me sad about the inequality in the world.

Music is horrible but how about when they are scrolling through shorts or tiktok whith blasting sound? Like a never ending spirit box
- Hearing two seconds of the worst possible version of a song you (used to before that) like. It's like some punishment
- My worst example is another “while scrolling” but dude had the same mumble trap sample play for every notification, so it was essentially on repeat.

I had a hero bus driver who pulled over the bus and kicked out a guy who was doing this.
- in my city, all bus drivers were of hero grade about 10 years ago. Today, none of them give a fuck so long as they make their time points. dafuq happun
  
  The bus drivers who would enforce the rules probably got more complaints and not enough compliments came in to offset them.
  So the ones who wanted to keep getting paid just chase KPIs.
  
  Soulless metrics with remote tracking.
  
  Selective hearing probably
- Based.

I see various forms of peacocking these days. The other one is blasting a 1sq mile radius with music from a vehicle.
Incidentally this meme captures my reaction when I see Clint Eastwood.
- People got worse over the course of the pandemic and it appears they have no intention to go back to more reasonable public behavior ever.
  
  The pandemic worsened the already excessive individualist value of capitalism.
- The other one is blasting a 1sq mile radius with music from a vehicle.
  That kinda goes back to the OP's title. It wouldn't be as bad if it didn't sound terrible. I miss the early 00s when every 3rd or 4th car had giant subwoofers. I may not like what you're playing but at least it sounds decent.
  
  I have to disagree. 9 times out of 10, the song is being drowned out by the sound of the entire car rattling from the bass.
  Personally, I prefer a much flatter EQ when listening to my music. I often times turn up the high-mids just a tad. I love a crispy high hat. Jacking the shit out of the bass is kind of spitting on the sound engineer that mixed and mastered the music. It's like taking a medium rare A5 wagyu and dumping A1 sauce on it.
  
  From my experience it only sounds good inside the car. Outside is just heavy bass
  
  I was in this car yesterday. Dubstep and woofers. It detached my organs.

It's even worse when you hear it.
- Where I find this behavior most infuriating is on walking/biking trails in the forest preserve. Like, seriously!?! I get the desire to listen to something while exercising or just having your "you" time, but when you're riding a bike that cost thousands, you can probably afford some bone conductors or at least ear buds that offer a hear through option. Hell, the expensive units refurbished on eBay get pretty damn cheap.
  
  I just bought a pair of anc earbuds for fun because I have a better set of anc headphones already. They sound way better than I expect or need and they were literally $25.

Theres a janitor at my work that sits in the break room all day blasting right wing tick tocks while people are on coffee break, its insanely annoying.
- Start playing Obama speeches when he's doing it.
- Are the TikTok’s about people who don’t want to work anymore?
  
  Pefect reply🤌

I am convinced most people are just walking around as blank eyed zombies that can only think about food, sex, and scrolling TikTok.
- In my town it's common to see somebody riding their bike through heavy traffic while looking at their phone. I don't get it at all.
  
  I just did one of my 50 mile rides this morning on a bike trail, and I passed a bunch of people with their phones mounted on the handlebars, watching videos of some sort. Like, I guess I could see having a GPS app open, but watching videos? Why the fuck are you even out here? Get a stationary bike and be safe at home at least.
  Many people riding and walking on the trail are playing music through their phone speakers instead of using earbuds. It's somewhat less annoying since you don't have to be around them for long, but it's still annoying.
  
  i overtook a topless dude riding his bicycle while scrolling tiktok with both of his hands today. no helmet
  its so normalised where I live
  
  I've made many victims, mostly steps.
  Not looking ahead for loong time, going into my bikelane without realising and then I give them a shoulder with a scream of surprise and anger.
  last one I didn't even have to look, I heard the sound of him and his phone hitting the asphalt. So satisfying.
  And before the angry comments: One of those clowns broke my girlfriends arm with that idiotic behavior and I've also had near accidents.
  If you're this selfish and irresponsible you deserve it.
  
  Pokemon Go?
- Im not sure they think about ant of those, but yes.
- While some might trash this take for sounding "boomer" you're not wrong, on a very deep level the profound decline in American and European reading comprehension has led to nearly a quarter of our population being functionally illiterate, and the problem here is much deeper than reading scores or being well-read, the problem is without a robust, developed language system, your brain is far less capable of organizing and contextualizing even basic kinds of abstractions about our world.
  We use words in our minds to create dialogues and monologs to explore meaning and synthesize ideas and understanding about complicated topics. Without words to create these narrations it's much harder or impossible understand anything beyond what you immediately feel and see and hear, you become highly linear in your thinking and also highly reactionary.
  You're seeing people walking around like blank-eyed zombies because the number of blank-eyed zombies is literally increasing.
- Hey don't bring tiktok into this. I've discovered quite a bit of good music, political uprisings, neat hobbies, beautiful art and artists of all kinds, philosophical concepts, and wonderful ways to look at life on there. Like those two hiker guys from "we love you" that talk about being present and coping with and appreciating life.
  https://www.tiktok.com/@_weloveyou__
  
  Im sorry, but there is literally billions of other ways you could find those things. Don't support tiktok.
  
  Support Tiktok and literally anything else that brings you joy

I use it in my shop when I'm alone and want something to listen to other than my tools.
my problem with people who do this? they're listening to the worst possible music in a public space.
- I used to do this a lot while working around the house/garage but got one of those small "soda can" sized blutooth speakers and would reccomend, its not super loud but the sound is rounded out around the bottom end and i can keep my phone out of the way of whatever i am around (dirt/dust/glues/water).
  
  tried that but it doesn't work for me. my shop is pretty big and I wouldn't be able to hear it from one end to the other without pissing off all my neighbors with my taste in music. also, someone (wife) always calls me when I'm literally inches from cutting my fingers off or when I'm just starting a weld. it's a hassle to have to take off my mitts, answer the phone, forget it's on the BT speaker, swipe 3 times to unlock the phone, switch the call mode, answer it again, then get the question "how's it going?"
  It's just easier for me to output from my phone in my back pocket or shirt pocket.

Always the shittiest, most tone-deaf trap/hip-hop music with the same exact snare drum riff on a loop. There's objectively good stuff from those genres out there, how do these people consistently find the worst?
- We’re not talking about smart people here…

- But react angry when you remind them that you're not interested in their conversation!
  
  If they were talking with somebody standing next to them, would you do the same? Ask them to please shut up? If not, why is this different?
  Asking out of real curiosity. I don't mind if people talk close to me in a puplic place, as I don't demand silence around me. Never cares for if it's on the phone or in person.

This is what happens when there is no headphone port
- No, this is what happens when they are a selfish prick who doesn't care about their surroundings. Even if I agree with the lack of 3.5 jack, a crappy pair of bt earphones are cheap, and will save the rest of us from listening to their crap.
- You can get USB C to headphone jack dongles super cheap. Bluetooth earbuds are also cheap these days. Not really a good excuse
- This is what happens when~~there is no headphone port~~ people are selfish pricks
  FTFY
- And yet, billions of people manage to not do this, every day.

Public transportation people who want to start a fight

In the early 60s my teenage cousin constantly held a "transistor radio" like this up to her ear, listening to top 40 stations. I bet it sounded similar.
- Got that blank stare down pat.
  
  That's angst.

Bro did this on the train last weekend. I told him the conductors tell us to silence our phones out of respect for everyone else. Didn't do shit 😂
- My father, back in the 90s, got into a fist fight with 2 guys over this, they had a boom box, he got stitches because one of their girlfriends came up from behind and hit him in the head with the radio. He was hot tempered. Glad you weren't drawn into a confrontation and used your head.

Probably the music is horrible too, so...

I'm mostly fine with music. But dammit put the phone to your ear when your on a call in public.
- But I wanna talk to people like I'm eating a slice of pizza!
  
  I want everyone to hear my pepperoni.

Some do that even in the train.
- I like to say "it sucks you can't afford headphones".

Guy leaving the store this morning was holding his up to his ear while pushing a buggy with the other. Dude had four cases of soft drinks and he wont buy some cheap ear buds.
- Guy was buying in bulk on the bus, he might not have been able to afford them.
  
  What? He went and got in a late model car and left. He is just one of millions who don't have any problem with doing that.

audiophiles and introverts in hard agreement in this one. handshake meme.
I'm neither and i dont mind listening to the classical radio station on my phone in my house, or seeing the odd cooky character passing by with their music for a moment. as long as they're only passing thru...

Not just music but also stupid canned slaughtered comedy routines that some of my coworkers flood our break room with occasionally

I hate the people who get those shitty bluetooth speakers and blast them in public. The people who blast music from their phone's speakers are assholes, but you could still say that they don't have headphones on them, but the people with the speakers? They intentionally went out of their way to buy a device for the purpose of being a public nuisance. They're a special of asshole.

Besides it feels terrible, the sound lose all the qualities that make it feel decent.

Literally only glitch-hop and lofi. Nothing that's intended to sound Good Should be played on phone speakers

They want to inform the public of their incredible taste in music or their unfathomable depth of intelligence.

or worst, TALKING loudy on thier phone to someone, or have it speaker, nobody wants to hear your whining.
- Nah, playing music is worse. They are disrespecting the artist, the art, and everyone around them.
  
  if its loud and annoying, but also talking loudly about thier daily problems is irritating too.

What about this phone?
- 577g 🤯

Yeah. The proper way is to hook up your phone to, and carry around, your $2500 speakers with gold plated cables or whatever.
Now seriously, I don't listen to music on the speakers because I'm mindful of other people, so I use headphones or simply don't listen to music

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

I still use my wired headphones that I got with my phone from 4 generations ago
- I still use the wired ones that came with my zune back in like 2006. They were incredibly good headphones for some reason. Thankfully, I don't use them much. Otherwise, they would probably be broken by now. Im going to be sad when they fo break one day.

I wanna share this to all aunties of my town

I like to put my phone on my shoulder(it's not loud enough from a breast pocket) and listen to music on podcasts while I work as headphones are a "safety issue", I honestly don't mind the sound quality

Me too. It's just the worst. And a bluetooth speaker (I like the m83) is pretty darn cheap.

Yeah... And even when it's reggaeton.

While I would never listen to music in public on my phone speakers, I have to say that they are just as good as, if not better than, transistor radios I have had.

While you should never do it in public, those phones with the virtual 3d sound field speakers are starting to get pretty decent to listen to music on. Still, never listen at higher volumes, cuz that breaks it. But it's pretty awesome for any volume level where it can manage the right level of base for the song.
Specifically what it's doing is making it so each ear only hears the part that is meant for it, and doesn't get the bleed over from the other speaker. Virtual stereo isolation, the Switch 2 also does it in standalone mode. But yeah, of course, that only works for the primary user, anyone in the wrong physical location relative to the speakers won't get the effect. And actually it'll just sound weird to them.
- virtual 3d sound field speakers
  Like an audio hologram?
  
  Could sort of be described that way. But they basically just shape the sound in a way that your ear hears it with the specific acoustic distortion that normally cues your brain that the sound came from behind you. Or wherever.
  So in the sense that a hologram is using different properties of shaping light to trick your eyes that something looks different than it really does, then yeah, audio hologram sort of fits. And similarly, it only works if your ears are exactly where they expect them to be, just like a hologram with your eyes.

ikr it's so tinny and weird. My monitor has pretty crap speakers but I'll take that over listening to music on a phone anyway lol
- Earphones

This is what happens when they take headphones jacks away.
People just don't bother.
- Naw, they didn’t then either.

They are probably listening to low quality spotify streams or, worse, compressed mp3, so it's not as if a pair of headphones would make any difference in sound quality...
Although I would love if they kept their shitty music to themselves, I'm not interested in their crap.
- Phone speakers these days are fairly decent. Will good headphones/speakers with a good DAC and AMP and a lossless audio file sound better? Well, duh. Are phone speakers adequate for the vast majority of people who aren't audio~~snobs~~, sorry, audiophiles? Also yes. Just don't be that asshole using speakers in public spaces.
- worse, compressed mp3
  Everyone who claims they can distinguish 192kbps mp3 from uncompressed audio can also hear the flea cough, as we say in German.
  
  Anybody with a pulse can tell. 192 is absolute dog shit. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBH6BxtD9A
  
  Any experienced mixing engineer should be able to tell. Here is your flea whisperer.
  
  When you get a lot of fleas in one place. Like a couple hundred. You hear this really high whine. Their chorussed conversation I guess.
- Quality of headphones/speakers makes a much much bigger difference than the file type/quality.
  I'll take Spotify w/good headphones over Lossless with phone speakers anyday
- What's Ur fav band?
- Although I would love if they kept their shitty music to themselves, I'm not interested in their crap.
  For real... Any of the people who I do come across doing this are listening to the tinniest garbage that sounds like organized radio static.
  And it's always got to be in the grocery store or Walmart. How about while you're there, you go buy some $20 Bluetooth headphones so you can listen to your garbage music alone and stop torturing the rest of us with your bad decisions?

I’m not defending this, and I know that me using an iPhone is going to be unreliable to 99.9% of Lemmy users, but once upon a time phone audio was in mono and it sucked. Idk if Apple did this first - I imagine they stole it from Android like every feature - but whoever had the idea to use the ear speaker as a second audio channel was a genius. Listening to music on iPhone speakers is like 100x better today than it was like 5 years ago.
- My interpretation of the post was less about the quality of phone speakers and more about disturbing the peace of public spaces
  
  Yeah I figured, but it made me think of speaker quality. It's also interesting how this isn't socially acceptable today, but there once was a time that when boomboxes were pretty common. It's kinda sad actually how individualized media has become. I miss Game of Thrones watch parties when we used to crowd around the TV. I'm too young to have grown up in the boombox era.
- HTC is known for popularizing stereo speakers, although a couple of earlier phones had them too but they weren't marketed well, if at all.
  
  I briefly had a Windows Phone circa 2010 and it had fantastic sound. It even had a little folding stand so the speakers could be uncovered.

It's almost always immigrants where I live. I don't know what the fuck is up with that. Also doing video calls and yelling to their phone. It's mad
- I noticed it's every body who does it. 😞
  
  Here I don't think think I've seen Finns doing it. Immigrants do it really often for whatever reason.