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  • They only expose approximate, not precise, locations, so they shouldn't be a risk like GPS that exposes precise locations?

    Be aware, this is VASTLY dependent on your ISP. Smaller ISP's especially DSL based ones in rural areas are notorious for giving almost exact address when you reverse look up it.

    My old ISP used to do that. like I had to try super hard to mask my IP if I went somewhere like IRC or Chatango that disclosed the full address to people joining, because if someone wanted to they could have looked up my address down to the house just by following the remote lookup because it would show my address instead of their nearest hub.

    Thankfully now it shows me somewhere in NY which I feel a lot more comfortable with, but still don't take for granted that it's only an approximate.

    As for actual privacy risks? It really depends on how private you want to get. A reverse lookup will give you your provider, and sometimes as I said above more. And if you have any forwarding enabled they can also try to get through your services using any exploits or misconfigurations you may have.

    Additionally, some routers will disclose a worryingly large amount of data if misconfigured, for example ATT modem/routers will give customer information, connected devices(including names) and VOIP phone configurations if you can get the router to think you are a local device or manage to misconfigure the management port to allow external connections. This is all without the requirement of a password/no auth

  • Depends of where you lives. if you have only 1 house per kmยฒ around you and your isp box provide predictable SSID name, you could be easily found as the ip range is per provider.

    Google street cars capture also the wifi network around them when taking street photos.

    And getting your ip can connect the people directly to your box. A trace route command to this IP could return intermediate equipment of your isp, helping to pinpoint your town or even your street.

    • I think this is a little confused. Unless your WiFi is open someone seeing your network can't find out what the WAN IP is.

      And getting your ip can connect the people directly to your box

      "Connect" is a strong word here. Yeah, they can send traffic at it. But that shouldn't do anything.

      A trace route command to this IP could return intermediate equipment of your isp, helping to pinpoint your town or even your street.

      This is the most reasonable concern. Depending on your ISP and location the IP itself or packet tracing you can get a pretty good idea of the user's location.

      • I don't know for you but, by default, all our ISP box here broadcast an "open" SSID that allows any customers of this ISP to login with their ISP credentials on the ISP box around them (except if the customers switch off this function). That allow a customer with a dead box or in travel to still have internet. (traffic is of course segregated).

        So if you know the ISP brand via the IP range and find a isolated home with this provider ssid visible, you found the address of the IP. Again that work only with low number of houses or not often use ISP.

        Connect for me is not connected like a logon but more in term of network connection (pinged).

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