'Just in': Elon Musk officially launches new political party

"America Party"
Americans really are the ultimate parody of themselves. Have fun with your civil war.
- The "America Party", started by a Nazi African. What a wild thing.
- Not just the USA or even just North America. It's apparently a party for South America as well!
  
  Tbf assuming South America is just kinda ours to mess with or else just forgetting about it is a pretty common thing for the US to do, it tracks
  
  A bunch of Nazis escaped to South American countries after WW2. I’m sure they low key raised more baby Nazis.
- splitting the nazi vote
  
  Yeah FR this is literally the best thing that could have happened for the USA simply because of spoiler effect.
- This whole thing leaves such a sour taste that he should have called it a lemon party.

I’m not sure if I want this to fail or succeed.
- Hopefully it has success at breaking us from our failed two party system, while at the same time the party itself fails (and costs him lot of money in the process).
  
  We'll need ranked choice (or some other voting scheme other than First Past The Post). Otherwise it'll just end up the same as it always has.
  
  Breaking the US from the failed 2-party system would require replacing first-past-the-post voting with at least ranked choice, if not a proportional system like Hare-Clarke, and probably scrapping the Electoral College altogether. Which may require constitutional amendments, or at least a partisan Supreme Court sympathetic to more democracy that would Chewbacca-defence it through regardless of legality.
  
  Pretty sure they hoped something similar about Hitler.
- Best case scenario is it will split the right wing vote. In Canada, we're used to it going the other way with conservatives taking advantage of a split left.
  
  Washington Post columnists said it would probably just capture the "Never Trumper" moderate Republican voters who currently begrudgingly vote Democratic because they understand that the Republican Party is nominating only yes-men and fascists.
  
  Same with the USA, the US Green Party is funded by Conservative PACs such as Badger Values. If there were left unity then the 8 million people who showed up for Biden 2020 would have shown up for Harris 2024, but a lot of people are convinced the DNC aren't left enough and that primary elections are shams.
- I want him to split the GOP vote. Basically just a Jill Stein that believes his own swill.
- Yeah...
  At best, it splits the MAGAt vote, making Dems a clear winner.
  At worst, it takes some GenZ dipshit votes away from Dems and causes chaos.
  
  Gen z men are already voting republican
  
  Is it bad that I just expect a split Right-wing vote just allows the Dems to slide even more right and still win?
- Success means a split of the Republicans, because the vast majority of Dems aren't going to follow Elon after these last few months.
- If it splits the republican party and removes the old white billionaires from the dems than I’m 100% for it.
- I want this to succeed wildly.
- Is it splits the Republican vote, I’m all for it
- I think it already has.
- I want it to split republicans and have both of them spectacularly fail elections.
- I want this to succeed in the destruction of both the GOP and Just in.
- Yes.

The America Party run by a South African.
Popcorn is not enough for this country.
- of all the things to shit on him for this isn't it. being multi cultural is the only culture we have and almost all of us are immigrants.
  
  I shit him for the name of the Party, not being South African.
  
  White rich South African are devoid of culture just like every other rich profligate. They have no nation, creed, or ideals just an insatiable avarice.
  
  If it's an insult to that crowd then it's worth rubbing it in, and it certainly is.
- I did nazi that coming.

Oh he didn't want to throw an X somewhere in that name like it is in almost everything he touches?
- Naxi
  
  American Party X
  
  I hate ~~Illinois~~American naxis
- That movie was already done. It actually aligned with his values though, so maybe there's a chance?
- It seems he'll never get over that failed venture.
- Give it some time.

I'll just point out the risk of what I'll call "Joe Roganing" here. Elon pretends he hates both parties while there's no election coming up. Then when the election arrives he "makes up his mind" and endorses Republicans. This allows him to 1) attract people fed up with both parties just to hand them to Republicans, and 2) have a credible that that forces Republicans to do his bidding.
- Absolutely this and I like that term "Joe Roganing".

The funniest thing about stuff like this is that there are already a hundred political parties in the US. Every time someone says “we need a third party,” it reminds me of that xkcd comic about standards and protocols.
- When people say that they want a third part I doubt they mean it literally, as in they believe there are literally only two parties, but rather I suspect they mean that they want a third party which is large and influencial.
  
  Sort of. They usually mean it literally, but it’s rooted in the misunderstanding of the political system that most folks have. And I don’t blame them for this, I just find the grandiosity amusing.
- Situation: There are 15 competing political parties
  
  Exactly!
- That is a ridiculous comparison. More political parties are a good thing.
  
  They would be, if the political and electoral system supported it.
  Which is obviously not the case in the US.
  
  Not until the US election system is changed. Until then they are just irrelevant distractions.

What kind of shitty click bait is this?
The richest man in the world officially announced on Saturday that he has officially formed a new political party to challenge Republicans and Democrats alike.
He fucking tweeted that it was created, literally nothing official.
- And when the president tweets it's for some reason official and should be followed... We live in a really stupid age where the government and politics in the US is governed by social media.
  
  All it takes is for one determined furry to pull up their programming socks and hack into Truth Social and start posting under Trump's name and we'll see that dry up real quick, unless he wants to make all his official announcements surrounded by uwu's and lewd pictures of Pokémon.
  Dollars to donuts it's going to be stupid easy to do as well, because Trump is incapable of hiring competent employees or of paying whoever he does hire.
- He didn't say it, he declared it.
  
  I DECLARE THE AMERICAN PARTY!!!!
- "I'm making a new political party it will be 10x cheaper and reusable." - Melon, probably

How many weeks before he gets bored and abandons it when things don’t immediately work, just like everything else in his useless life?
- unlike rockets or cars, political party success in America is measured in dollars
  
  He already bought himself an entire department with no oversight but got bored of it after a few months.

Nazis. They're Nazis. This is Nazis.
- It's Musk so he'll probably rebrand them as NaXis.
  Maybe enough MAGAts will join him that it will split the vote and it will get easier to get people with basic human decency elected. That is assuming we continue to have elections.
- The only good thing of that is that the otherwise shitty FPTP system will make him and Trump go for each others throat.

are they hiring? i have many expensive ideas with zero guarantees of success
- Who do you think you are, an oligarch?
  
  I am but a simple man looking to profit off the vanity of a complete moron with more money than God.

Honestly, I am tentatively very excited about this. Not because I support that nazi in any way whatsoever. I am excited because he stands to be a significant spoiler for the GOPs elections.
- He will pull a Joe Rogan and endorse Trump last minute.
  
  Doubtful that the Musk party is going to swap in Hillary. But it is her turn.
- Do they even really like him? I thought pretty much any Republican support for Elon came from his support/association with Trump
  
  I'm a secret leftist amongst a bunch of low information MAGA voters (the ones that voted for Trump more because they're stupid and easily duped than being giant racists) in a few different circles. All they know is I own guns and answer "oh fuck no" when asked if I'm a liberal, so they assume I'm a non-MAGA conservative*. Hehehe.
  Without exception, they adore Elno. They don't realize it but they're prosperity gospel types (because stupid), so they assume he must be a good and intelligent guy, otherwise Jebus wouldn't have made him successful.
  *Side note: I have one all hot and bothered about seizing the means of production, just using different terms.
- I will agree with this.
- on one hand, harder to defeat them in a vote because they'd be way more visibly in touch with the incel crackhead core of their voting block. on the other, dude is at least environmentally concerned enough to try avoiding climate and technology crisis as long as the solution benefits/involves him. which is a low fucking bar but still an improvement.
- I highly doubt it. GOP is a person cult centred around Trump. They liked Musk as long as Trump liked him, but they all hate him now.

Split the Republican party bro. That'll really own the libs.
- Bro as a lefty I’m so scared of this America Party bro. Like we really won’t be able to beat them frfr. If republicans have the Trump Party and the America Party it’ll be like they’re twice as strong. They definitely won’t just start taking sides and splitting the vote so that their already fake “majority” completely falls apart. And the muskrat definitely wouldn’t be dumb enough to try to rig an election so his puppet candidate beats a Trump Party candidate prompting Dump or SCOTUS to crack down on election rigging. That would never in a million years happen bc the America Party is gonna totally be the people’s party bro
  /s just in case

I fail to see how splitting up the fascists is anything but a good thing. Let them fight.
- True that. Although in a would be tri-party system, so in case this new party gains somewhat reasonable backing, it gains significant bargaining power over the much bigger parties because it would likely hold keys to majority vote. So it might just become much greater than its apparent size… But yeah, I doubt much anything comes out of this.
  
  Liberals hate musk and won't vote for his party. Split the stupid vote and watch Dems win unwinnable races. If he pulls that off for 2 election cycles you might even see Republicans go in on ranked choice voting.
- Yeah, this seems like it may actually be some good news in this endless sea of shit we've been in. But the chances of it actually going anywhere are pretty slim.

I hope this would split the vote among magas and republicans and the dems would be a shoe in. Sadly, I've lost a lot of faith in the dems and their ability to effectively fight for the people. Maybe we need even more parties?
- A third party is only likely to split the vote of the people who can't stand trump.
- Dems won't do shit to make people's lives better but they won't open up concentration camps and will mostly leave trans people alone.
  Unless the dinosaurs talking shit about Mamdani and AOC are brought to heel.
- It could give progressive and younger democrats a decent foothold.

I'm surprised he didn't try to meme it up and call it the Lemon Party.
- America party?
  really?
  I'm disappointed on the uncreative name.
  was hoping for something stupid.
- .org

I hope this becomes big enough to split the right-wing vote. I wish him all the success possible.
- Until right before the election he concedes and his voters go republican.
  
  Doesn't seem terribly likely to me for Musk to concede before the election. There's still something to gain from it being public knowledge how many voted for you last election. This did happen recently in BC, Canada though, where the established conservatives bowed out at the last minute to give votes to the new far-right party.
- Well not all the success possible...

Has he filed any paperwork? Gathered any signatures?
Didn't think so. It's just typical Elmo Skum: hurricane force hot air scented with billionaire quantities of bovine effluvia.

I just want to remind anyone thinking that this is a good thing because it will siphon off voters from the Republican Party - Elon Musk is only doing this because Trump cut the EV mandate from the Big Bullshit Bill and didn't appoint his guy to NASA. No matter what he says about spending or debt ceilings, he doesn't care about any of it and was in the loop the entire time that legislation was being crafted. He's still only in this for himself, just as he was when he gleefully threw a Nazi salute on stage thinking he just got everything he could ever want when he bought the president his office.
- He can be in it for himself, and it can still be a good thing for us
  
  Sure, that's fine, I just don't want people to lose sight of the bigger picture here. Musk is not an altruist. He's not the good guy all of a sudden. He didn't grow a conscience after falling out with Trump.
  If this political party ever gets off the ground, which it probably won't, Musk will always have a controlling interest in it. He will never ever let the party move away from enabling and enacting his agenda, and his alone. He doesn't give a single shit or a wipe about helping Americans. He wants to protect his fortune by taking control of the government apparatus to end regulations or investigations that impede the companies he is in charge of. That's it.
  I certainly hope that Democrats will see this for the nakedly transparent political maneuver that it is, and not get swept up in the idea of a 3rd party founded and controlled by a billionaire will bring any kind of meaningful change to the system. And I believe they will - we rejected Bloomberg and Steyer in 2020 because they were out-of-touch billionaires who tried to buy their way into the party, and I think that Democrats are not so easily fooled by the obvious bad faith rich cunts who try to buy their way into the public zeitgeist. I just worry that people will see this move by Musk as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and shift closer to his values as a result. He might be the enemy of your enemy, but he's still an an enemy as far as I'm concerned.
- As much as I fucking hate Musk, he does understand two things:
  EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
  Funneling money from the government to billionaires is the worst thing for an economy
  What I find fucking mind-blowing is that this idiot is selling a shoddy EV and solar product at premium costs to other idiots, but very much aligned with Democrats on the two points above. Not only did he back the wrong horse, he straight up accidentally got on the wrong horse, and rode it threw towns away from where he was living very comfortably.
  Now this fucking moron needs to invent new ways to make Tesla appealing to the "normies" because nobody is buying his bullshit stalling tactics or premium pricing for sub-par products.
  I've got my popcorn ready, but the siphoning of votes away from Trump is just the butter on top.
  
  I dont see how you can draw that conclusion for item 2. He claims to care about the deficit, not funelling money to billionaires. Belive me, he would have you living under a bridge eating gruel before he would touch anything that affects his wealth.
  
  EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
  in not sure about that… imo EVs would be relatively comparable if ICE vehicles and oil didn’t have massive subsidies at every stage from governments.. more if negative externalities were properly accounted for
  or maybe not: in australia we have a fuel excise and EV credit and they’re still pretty expensive relative to ICE
  
  Not sure I agree with point #2 - I'd be willing to bet he would love to funnel some of that sweet tax money into his own pocket, but he doesn't want it in the form of tax breaks for income earners, he wants it in the form of EV subsidies for Tesla, which Trump denied him by cutting the EV tax incentive from the spending bill. I don't think he even acknowledges that tax breaks for billionaires are bad for the economy, just that the big bullshit bill is bad for him specifically.
  On everything else, though, I agree wholeheartedly. His brand is toxic now, and without being able to sell a sub-par product at dirt-cheap prices, he's going to get a heavy dose of reality when consumers reject his rolling coffins in favor of cheaper alternatives.

I’m sure Tesla shareholders are happy to hear he’s picked up another side project.
- Don’t you remember? He’s a super genius!

The entire Democrat demographic hates him for kissing Trumps ass.
The entire Trump demogaphic hates him for going against Trump.
And the Republican demographic have never liked him as far as I'm aware.
So.... who are his voters? Probably just a convenient way to shuffle money around.
- This isn’t about money. It’s about Elon Musk‘s ego and will to power.
- He's completely unable to read the room. Understandable really, he doesn't exist in the same world as the rest of us really.
- Voters? The goal here is to separate Musk from as many dollars as possible
- This is the second most likely outcome. The most likely is be is full of shit. I'm all for siphoning off the votes of the gullible.

A white South African dude created the American Party
ffs did somebody step on a bug in 2015 and change the whole timeline?
- I'm thinking of doing a Ghost Dance to bring Harambe back
- Is there anything more American than aliens claiming to be the true Americans?

He can fuck right off. I don't believe him and Trump are actually at odds and I think this is an attempt to create an opposition party that's even more under conservative control than the Democrats are.
- The chances that a real Elon party signifigantly stealing votes from the Republicans to the point it causes an actual vote split is basically nil. The voter base is stupid, but not so stupid to hand a brand new party anything out of the gate.
  Now, controlled opposition, is a foundation of the farce that is Russian democracy, and both DT and Elon are staunch admirers of Putin's system where its a mob masquerading as a government with total control
- Yup. At best, this is an attempt at spoiling republican votes to piss off Donald in the midterms. At worst, it’s an attempt to consolidate power by ensuring all of the followers are united.
- This is the wildest take I've seen so far.
  It would split the vote amongst the least same, and consolidate the vote for Dems.
  What's the upside for Musk here?
  
  Exactly! Democrats have been LAZER FOCUSED at making Their voters Happy NO MATTER How Many Republicans they Piss Off!
  
  Government contracts for his money-hommorhaging companies. A direct link to corrupt world leaders. The fascists aren't above rigging elections and I have zero doubt that if they could they'd put control in the hands of the Republicans and place this new bullshit party in over Dems.
  We're not in a "normal" America, anymore. Billionaires absolutely cannot be trusted.

While on one hand I hope that people realize this is literally their government being purchased by a single rich guy and push back... I know they're far too stupid for that.
- A single rich guy that self-confessed that he illegally immigrated to this country.
- I've got bad news for you, our government is already owned by the rich. Every government is. That's the whole point of having a government, it's how the rich control others.
  
  Pretty naive take on how governments work.
  
  Shut the fuck up, that is not true in the slightest.

I'm really happy about this, always thought 1 flavour of fascism wasn't enough for me /s
- I love them having to pick between techbro douchey edgelord and failed game show host douchey edgelord.
  Let's split that vote. Let them battle it out to get the deplorable vote and let normal Americans run this place again, FFS.
- let them fight

The neo-Nazi saluting bastard wants a political party? F-him and strip him of US citizenship for illegally working in the USA.
If anyone has a chance to create another party. AOC and Mamdani.

Oh, can "aliens" start political parties in the USA?
Imma start a "British Colony" party over there; anyone want to join me? MAABCA.
- He doesn't have to run himself. He can endorse and fund people to run for him
- Political parties are independent entities, not part of the government, so yes anyone can make one.

Hey you guyz, now there is another billionaire you can donate your money to and he will do nothing for you. Cool!

Just in: Elon Musk can fuck off. Preferably to Mars, permanently.
Fuck him and his political party.

....but the nazi party already existed.

Maybe that's the only way US will ever get a third party. I'm not an American but I do think american politics system would be significantly stronger even with a minority 3rd party. Can you imagine how powerful US would be with a diverse parlament that has true competition of ideas not just partisan voting? That's true "checks and balances".
- We don't need more false choice though. This would be a another bourgeois party. The cards might be shuffled a bit and the rhetoric might change but it'd still be playing the same game with the same cards. It's still a game of "choose your favorite faction of rich people" despite the tweaks in messaging. There will still be an assurance of "nothing will fundamentally change" to the owners and donors.
- The problem is the US isn't setup for third parties to really work, all this is going to do is most likely be a spoiler vote from Republicans and give more wins to Democrats. Maybe if they're lucky they'll win a few seats in uncompetitive districts.

Reading the article to see what ridiculous name he's going to give it.
"The America Party"?
TBH, pretty tame in Musk standards. At least it's pronounceable.
- I'm surprised he didn't go with a stupid acronym
  
  TAP is a stupid acronym.
- The name is to make a grab at the r’s. If it wasn’t, he would have named it the x party.
- No, it's actually the worst name possible. It's the latest in a long line of giving things names that force them to be talked about like they're good. Big Beautiful Bill. Patriot Act. It's like if I name my proposal to make every human on Earth my personal slave the "Best Idea Ever Act That Only Stupid Evil People Disagree With". What's sad is that it's actually effective. There are people out there stupid enough to really think "How can you be against the AMERICA party? Aren't you an AMERICAN????". It takes advantage of linguistics to manipulate psychological response to the topic. And even if you say "well actually the big beautiful bill is actually not beautiful at all" then you sound like a silly hair-splitting moron who doesn't have an actual argument and can only attack the name.
  Furthermore it creates an ambiguity. I can no longer say "I'm proud to be an American" without tacking on "but not the Elon Musk Party kind", which then spreads and reinforces the dominance of his term.
  The left should really try to start some sort of social media trend of saying we're proud to be Americans just to try to undermine the ambiguity before Musk's marketing bots get into full swing and co-opt the term.
- He named it that so their members are called "Americans." He's trying to steal our national identity for his new Nazi party.
- Correction: At least you can read it.

The American Billionaires Party?
If they manage to steal half the GOPs votes, we have reason to thank him.
- I'm not opposed to his.
  A party composed of billionaires.
  That will help in a situation where we have to do a French revolution.
  
  Sadly, such a party would not be big enough to tear into the GOP.

knowing musk ox, the party name will spell something juvenile
C onservatives U nited as N ationalist T rolls
- Not enough X's in that name.
  
  American History X party
- Bring Apartheid to America. BAA.

Split the ring wing vote. Let them fight it out. Hopefully this could mean getting them out of the White House.

I hope that he sloughs off enough support from the Geronocrats and Turdpublicans to give the Progressive movement a chance to become mainstream. In a battle between four armies, I think AOC would win.
- An AOC/Sanders ticket is starting to make sense, aside from Bernie's age.
  Harris needs to stay away from this next race.
  Newsom is a fucking snake, and I wouldn't for him to be prez.
  Whitmer and Gillibrand both just did a fast turn to fascistic and racist bullshit.
  Pritzker is a billionaire, but says the right things.
  If Mamdani does great shit really fast, he could be a VP pick in 2032, but he needs to prove some shit and can't be president.
  I just feel like the field is pretty limited right now. We don't have all the good ideas at all the right times from any candidates, but we have the best ideas right now through just a few people. Voters are desperate to displace all this bullshit that is happening right now, and we just need a better crop of candidates overall. This isn't even on the left, but the right leaning people need to get some sane fucking choices back as well.
  
  Mamdani is foreign born as I understand it 😭

You support Elon Musk's party because the Republicans ripped you off.
I support Elon Musk's party because it will dilute the voters.
We are not equal.

Cool. Let the douches be split between who is more "maga" (baby talk) than the other and split all the worst people into an ineffective nothingburger when it comes to the ballot box.
I'm so tired of the various factions of the left pitting themselves against each other (and letting elitists/Russian and Chinese troll farms do this to them, too).
About time to have some extreme division on the wingnuts.

Odd strategy.
Leftists won't buy it, and most liberals aren't going to buy it, and it might divide the right, while team blue is fracturing.
Gonna be a 4 on one, not a 3.

Andrew Yang be like..."First time?"

Cool so a third liberal party
- I'm all for it. If Brewster's Millions taught me anything it's that involving yourself in US politics is the quickest way to lose vast sums of money.

Good time to make a fourth party.

So, another copy of the Libertarian Party?
But even more barefacedly just "republicans who don't want to pay their taxes"
- Hey, the Libertarian Party do more than that. Like smoke weed and celebrate the idea of freedom but then rage about immigrants and ignore companies fucking them over.

What a stupid name for it
- I'm just shocked it's not the X Party.
  
  I was rooting for Lemon Party.

The Let That Sink In party?

Let me guess it's logo will be a charging boer... err boar.
- I see what you did there

Now do another 10 or 20 parties more and maybe america could finally become a democratic country.
- Need a weaker executive branch too

Wow this might just turn Elon Musk into a millionaire.

Even opening up a poll on X to see what his users think about the idea...
Presumably the other headline that read '50% of voters' were in favour of this party, should have read '50% of X users who voted in the poll (a potentially large proportion of which were bots owned and controlled ultimately by Elon Musk) were in favour of this party'
US (and in fact all 'Western') media is as bent as anything in the former Soviet Union.
America certainly is in the hypernormalisation phase. I'm not sure how far behind the UK (and other Western nations media) is because I really don't engage in the media here. But any Murdoch owned media (like Fox in the US) is at the very least poisonous to open and fair democracy, and egalitarian society.

Perfect timing. Just when everyone hates musk he wants votes.
Yea, that gonna be fun to cringewatch

The Country Under Not Trump party

Ross Perot 2.0

What could go wrong?

Ketamin kicked in and he thinks people like him again.
He's toxic now. Giving money to candidates will have the opposite effect.

oh no, he used going to spilt the nazi vote

Maybe when this fizzles out we can get bipartisan support to change our First Past the Post voting system.
This will ultimately fail until that changes.