It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I'm reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.

100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅

I started on lemmy.world because it was the most popular server at the time and I didn't really understand how the fediverse worked. I spent the first month sort of just learning to stop trying to think like I was on reddit. The federation feels to me like pirate TV/ ham radio, people broadcasting their visions and worldviews while rebroadcasting other stations/nodes. Each instance, has it's own "feel". I see the entire instance I'm on as a greater solarpunk community, which is filled with smaller, related communities of people all sharing their own interests.

This is a memory of how the Internet was first envisioned by many people, before the corporate takeover. I am interested in FOSS, I am interested in "piracy", I am interested in any exchange of knowledge that helps us work together, spread skills, and empower communities, both virtual and on the ground.

But all that aside, lemmy.world is just too unreliable for it to be my entrypoint into the fediverse. Which is why I looked around and found a place that feels more in line with my own sense of hopefulness for the future.

Let the garbage go there

They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.

They stand behind the lie that "if we didn't let people in, they wouldn't know where to go"... as if it's so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.

I'll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they're actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it's a collection of smaller instances.

@tron @Madbrad200 >Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views.

welcome to the fedi, first day here? :guraKekw:

enshitification

You're already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.

I guess, someone with a copyright background came knocking at their door. It's one thing to defend against a lawsuit if you are a big for-profit company with a well-funded law department and a nice financial buffer. But it's an entirely different thing if you are hosting a non-profit platform with your own money because you are a nice guy.

Tbh, I am negatively surprised how many people don't understand that the person hosting a lemmy instance is someone who does it as a hobby and not a big corporation.

The good thing about Lemmy: if you don't like an instance or it's admin, you can just host one yourself. You just need a Pi or an old laptop and a few hours of time. Did you try that?

Because their shit instance can't keep up for a minute.

TBF it doesn't seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I've still moved on to another instance.

Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls

I just saw the same user on the star trek instance, accusing them of being into 'nerd shit'

It's doubtful they posted to .world with genuine concerns. They just seem like an agent of chaos.

Source for this person being transphobic? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know where this is coming from..

neither has lemdro.id!

I kind of agree, with the caveat that I think it'd be super cool if the existing dbzer0 members also checked out other communities on different instances and made Lemmy more popular. I feel like that would be a win-win.

The more mainstream and well-known dbzer0 becomes, the more likely it is to have problems because of that.

ZLibrary never went down fully. There were always ways to access it.

i honestly think the z-library incident was a one-off because it was spread by colleen hoover fans on tiktok so i'm hoping that it won't happen again... but maybe that's just wishful thinking :/

The guy who started this whole thing by asking lemmy.world admins to defederate with lemmy.dbzer0.com is a lemm.ee account and he has asked lemm.ee to take similar action

I'll tell ya a couple of three things, my estimation of Lemmy.world as a general-purpose instance just fucking plummeted.

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Go be a shepherd and encourage people to move elsewhere

Hmmm, your chosen instance interests me

Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.

Probably because they don't understand how federation works. People are used to signing up for centralised services, so when they come to Lemmy because of a reddit post where someone said "I just signed up at lemmy.world, it's great" and then they install an app and lemmy.world is the first instance listed, they just blindly assume that is the official/main instance that they should start with.

It makes me wonder if and when we'll see clients that also act as single-user instances.

The hero

Sounds like a plan.

MVP

That's exactly what I just did haha

This is the way

I joined as well. New to Lemmy. Never even heard of dbzer0 until that post. There have been a few complaints of .world degenerating other communities as well. Streisand effect.

Arrrr

Beehaw pulled the same crap. Weeks ago. Glad they rejected my sign up.

Is there anything to discuss in this case?

Good to know just so I know to go to an instance that doesn't block this community. I don't blame .world for being careful. This is indeed the Fediverse working as intended.

And yet they insist on keeping registrations open and tarnishing the lemmy name with their shit uptime and terrible, terrible decisions like this. Fuck them.

Yeah, that part was pretty fucked up. The LW Admin made a statement about it saying it was a mistake by a newer member of their team and that from now on all announcements would be posted to the announcements community on .world.

They aren't doing that intentionally. They're being DDOSd into the ground by someone(s) using SQL commands specifically crafted to hamstring their database. You can read about it here if their instance is up.

We were notified through a c/Mildly Infuriating post. True pirates are used to having to make some effort to get their content!

That's correct. No you wouldn't.

You would be unaware.

This sub disappeared from my subscriptions on my .world account, but it was a c/Mildly Infuriating post that tipped me off.

I think you would stop seeing new posts.

Same lol

Also as long as no illegal content is shared, but is only referred to, there isn't really anything illegal about it right?

Yep, I don't torrent that often, and when I do it's usually because something is out of print and all the publicly available scans I can find online are really shitty. The torrents more often than not have pretty decent quality.

Someday maybe there will be a kbin api so more apps can utilize it.

Also just anyone on any other instance

Right? Like oh no, well sucks to sucks l.w lol.

Yeah man, started on kbin and its been my favorite so far.

Lemmy world is turning into Reddit v2

Not really, even Reddit still has piracy related subreddits (at least for now).

They must be paranoid about thinking that even the slightest link to any kind of pro-piracy conversation or community will get them sued into the ground.

I'm on a german instance (feddit.de) and it's federated with db0.

I think it's just lemmy.world bullshit.

Has anyone read their post about their downtime?

"We shouldn't close registration or limit the amount of communities because we're not even the biggest instance in the fediverse"

Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.

Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can't register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn't matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?

I'm really weirded out how hard they try to be the "main" thing on Lemmy.

Just released an announcement, see the pic in the post.

Fucking Germany. Like I get having the laws, but they are being abused for absolute nonsense.

I'd be scared to have an account in something with .zip domain. Could be that some big players start to block that domain (Google, isps).

Though I guess you just make a new account if shit hits the fan.

Enjoying .zip myself.

I wanted to try out zip but unfortunately I think zip domains are blocked on my network since it fails to connect normally but does work through Tor or a VPN. I also tried connecting to other zip domains (not just the lemmy instance) and I got similar results. Would work on Tor or VPN but not on my main network.

At least I now have an account here though, which is probably good enough for now.

Same here =) just because fuck Lemmy.world

When Kbin releases his API I'm gonna be there too!

People that use "based" unironically are fucking idiots...

So are the rest of the people who say it really... Fuckin idiot

Yeaaaah, that's sketchy. I can understand them blocking the communities out of fear of legal risk. They didn't sign up for that kinda risk and we all know that piracy oriented sites get targeted by legal action (isn't there currently an ongoing attempt to get Reddit to turn over user info about people who accessed piracy communities there?). But why the heck would they hide that they blocked the communities?

It's the same as with Hexbear. I can understand why they defederated from that instance, since I've seen how they comment. They're extremely aggressive. Even when they're right, they're assholes about it. And they're often straight up supporting Russia, which is batshit crazy (they have no nuance, acting as if there can't both be Nazis in Ukraine and Russia can also be an evil aggressor). But Lemmy.World was happy to silently defederate until they got called out. Even despite the fact that for Exploding Heads, they at least had a big post about it (even though Exploding Heads is far worse).

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TBF their instance was probably down at the time

Just replace "Lemmy instance" with "blog", and the answer is obvious.

"consider a Mexican user visiting a blog located in Germany to view Nazi content."

The user is subject to Mexican laws. The blog owner would be subject to German laws. The instance owner is likewise subject to German laws.