YouTube’s anti-ad blocking test gets even pushier with a new timer

Hmmm. $20 a month for the big budget action of Westworld, or $20 a month for a cooking show filmed in someone’s basement. Decisions, decisions.

We actually don't know what percentage they're making. They can tell you how much they're paid, but no one but Google can tell you how much of the subscription cost goes to them versus Google.

It's such a low number most people would be disgusted.

We're talking a few bucks for a million views.

Then they shouldn't store everything.

Isn't there a risk of getting your Google account banned for doing this?

I'm guessing via a VPN, but which country do you connect to for the low prices?

Which country did you go through? I assume you purchase on a VPN and then after it applies normally?

their problem is probably paying $2 billion a year or some crazy number for nfl football.

Only a kid used to having mommy and daddy pay for everything would claim youtube has no costs. It is amazing how many people on social media think everything should be free. The real issue here it is the lack of competition.

Keep 720p only for users who upload crap and aren't generating revenue and keep 4k for the channels who are uploading quality content. I've seen a podcast uploading hours of content in 4k. That is incredibly costly to stream to people.

I'm not going to pay for a service that is so wasteful with their income and then they want more.

Yep, on Smart TV devices there's a startup tune.

Yeah this is new to me

On desktop blocktube has improved things so much too. It has made search results so much better, since YouTube suppresses smaller channels in favor of the same large youtubers depending on the subject. Really wish it could be integrated into mobile YouTube options, but until then my hope is waiting until mobile firefox getting desktop extension support.

Does anyone know if the dislikes extension is actually accurate or is it a sort of estimation

have you ever searched "ad blocker" on your browser of choice's extension store and scrolled down? or had a cheap/free VPN that advertised ad blocking functionality?

those. for some reason people install those. and they never get updates.

(some of them are actual malware too)

They want to frame it so that internet ID is the solution. That way you as a person can be banned, not just the account or ip. Good luck buying and selling when everything becomes digital and you get banned.

The reason people are talking about this new change is that it will bypass the extensions.

You should try revanced.

It's funny how we need uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and maybe even DeArrow (same dev as SB) to make Youtube tolerable.

well they better be investing in bunkers and 100 years worth of canned beans.

Squeezing max profit has been part of it from day 1.

Ironic, thats u trying to leech off youtube for free

lemmy lemme lemmon same thing. What even is a word but words that someone worded, if you reword a word enough times the word doesn't even sound like a word anymore. Word?

No, they have a point. Because you earn money by views, people now make videos about everything instead of writing something somewhere that can be found by search engine. Video has its uses but it's far overused nowadays and it sucks.

The Wadsworth constant

I mean, if it is an ad that actually directly gets the video creator paid, I’m not even mad about those, especially when it’s quality content. Not a fan of those who just take common searches for questions online and create a long video to explain the answer when it should have just stayed as a stackoverflow question and answer or something.

"Modern problems require modern solutions" -> get sponsorblock

It's like how they expect you to pay for things at a store now too! Like "I just wanted some milk dude!"

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Does YouTube pay their content creators properly? No, they have to rely on external partnerships. Does YouTube help their creators solve issues with greedy companies making copyright claims on not their content? No, they close channels because of such claims and strip creators of income they deserve. Does YouTube keep their platform secure to protect its creators? No, hackers managed to get access to the biggest channels on the platform despite YouTube being aware of the issues for months. Does YouTube at least use their knowledge from spying its users to stop bots posting comments? No, bot comments are all over the place. And I could go like that for ages...

The fact is YouTube is a shitty platform and people use it because they have to not because they want to. Because they have a fucking monopoly! People are paying thousands of dollars directly to content creators through platforms like Patreon, because they like the content. But people are not willing to support financially the platform that openly don't give a fuck about their users and creators (which are the only reason this platform exists) and care only about their shareholders. Because why would they pay to make the rich richer while content creators struggle to earn money for rent!

if google made youtube premium like $3/month no one would bat an eye and sub. but they're approaching netflix prices and that's just way to much. i rather support the creators directly than throwing money at google who will give the creators crumbs until they demonetize them because google is doing google things. also won't solve the privacy problem that comes with using their native site/apps.

Google has been shamelessly destroying all their projects the last few years in a desperate fit to make money. They've weakened ad blockers on chrome, they've altered the search algorithm so random BS is mixed in with regular to drive towards sponsored content, their starting to setup browser level DRM and creating un skipable ads. None of this is for anything more than greed and desperation. They no longer see anything other than money as the end goal and don't care if their selling a shittier product at a higher price than no one was ever even willing to pay for. F*ck google.

No. This is why if a service loses sight of its core value proposition, it dies.

If youtube is actually successful in killing adblocking on their service - which I suppose a server-side timer could actually do - then they will only succeed in killing their relevance, just like so many social media seem to be doing right now.

I pay for services like a debrid and VPN, because they provide me with the services I need. For very few dollars a month I can get 4K streaming from their servers 24/7. That is all hosting should cost. If the fediverse version of youtube, peertube, became mainstream then collectively people should have absolutely no problem maintaining those costs from the users' side.

Once that happens and mainstream video streaming is part of the fediverse, I think the network effect that governs social media might snowball until eventualy centralised social media is a thing of the past.

Do not pay for youtube, whatever you do. Let them die.

Personally I don't want to pay Google out of principle tbh, the creators I support can benefit from my Patreon donations and Nebula subscription

Oh nooo, who will think of the big tech who continue to get record profits every year?

But I hate the service, it's the only service around though.

I support the sentiment, but today everything is a service that wants your money, this resource is finite. And when it comes to YouTube, it's not even about whether you like it or not: YouTube is a monopolist.

I'll gladly pay for a service that doesn't thrive on pushing propaganda down people's throats to maximize watch time and that isn't actively trying to make my user experience miserable by removing downvotes, forcing shorts and so on.

I'd rather pay someone to kick me in the nuts. Sounds like a better deal tbh.

Good thing I don't like youtube.

Like Cable Television, right?

https://feddit.de/comment/2156440

Why not pay creators directly through Patreon PayPal or equivalent instead of Google as well?

This was news to me so I went looking and couldn't find it on youtube. Reading articles seems to indicate it is only available in certain regions and at certain times. I finally found the link to the page (https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite) and confirmed it's not available for me in the US at least.

And then the AI script retaliates by identifying and switching to matching videos on PeerTube, whilst also learning your viewing habits. A premium version offers a subscription which pays third world workers to complete the captcha on your behalf.

Then Google users WEI to kill the extension.

Then someone releases a VPS which runs Chrome and supplies the whole thing by Remote Desktop, with a client side app that integrates the behaviour...

(just thinking of how it could go.)

Me gesturing at gazillions of porn sites that lets anyone upload any videos...

If YouTube implodes, pornhub will immediately launch an sfw version to grab the fleeing content creators.

The ad revenue is a portion of what the advertisers paid.

YouTube DOES get its content for free. They pay YouTubers per view, essentially a portion of profit, whereas something like Netflix pays for the creation of content and then also a portion of profit made.

I believe he is referring to the fact that YouTube don't have to pay upfront for new content, they even get new content without hunting for it, and many smaller channels don't have partnership and so on.

Sure they have a platform, backend and so on. But Netflix needs to have all that too plus buy things to show to their customers.

In other words, taking advantage of their own users!

I don't have a screenshot nor do I remember what ad was it, but I have seen an ad that was more than 2 hours long.

I think they are likely to pull a Netflix and create a lower premium tier with ad support and missing other premium features like picture in picture

Nebula is absolutely amazing, but it's a very specific niche. I don't think that kind of model could ever work outside of that genre of educational, super high production value content.

I'm very happy with Kagi. I find the search results to be excellent. It does take a little bit of practice to get back into the habit of writing proper search queries instead of relying on google already having a profile of what you're likely to want, but once you do its very solid. The features to promote or demote domains is also very useful.

Funny thing is that occasionally I'll search for something with Kagi and I'll get no or very few results only to then try google. Google will then show me millions of results but it's all unrelated, AI generated, SEO trash that'll just waste my time. I'll take no results over that any day.

Thank you! I'll keep these in mind

At least in the past, you couldn't get banned from YouTube: They would instead lock your entire Google account and I personally would not be able to deal with that.