ZORORO
ZORORO
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Pretty much the reverse of this:
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Probably they would've killed him for being heretic and meet god again in a short time.
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What's this from?
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Oglaf (potentially NSFW).
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"I'm afraid it was the MORmons. Yes, the MORmons were the correct answer." --The Director of Hell (Southpark)
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That's the first place my mind went, as well.
What's hilarious is that in another episode, Satan asked God to accept Saddam Hussein into heaven so he could know true eternal torment living with the Mormons.
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Zororo hasn't stopped the souls coming in to obliterate.
Must be the highlight of it's day.-
Nah, he just thinks the sins of the father pass to the son and he's a bit salty about why the tribe went extinct.
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Honestly, given the available evidence, this is just as likely an outcome as any other.
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this is the source of a lot of my existential dread. I can't logically refute it, at most I can acknowledge it's pointless for me to worry about, but I can't stop myself from worrying about maltheism.
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Any supposed supreme deity who hinges the eternal fate of their own supposed creations on a wild ass guess isn't one that is worthy of worship, adoration, or even basic respect. If a being with the sum total knowledge and foresight of literally everything can't devise a better system that any random ass person off the street, I wouldn't worry about it.
They either don't exist at all, or they do and everyone is fucked because we exist in the playground of omnipotent super beings that are somehow also absurdly stupid. One of those outcomes is more likely than the other. I think you know which one it is.
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Al hail the great ZORORO
May they blast me into sweet oblivion of nothingness as soon as I die, existence isn't for me.
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Pascal’s Wager states that reason cannot determine which, if any, god(s) exist (although it’s commonly simplified to just the Christian God), so it is best to choose to believe in one particular arbitrary god on the off chance that that one particular god is real (and behaves like the Christian God). If by some fluke chance your guess is correct, you get eternal paradise in the Good Afterlife; if your guess is wrong, which it probably is if you were to forego any logical deduction in selecting from a vast pool of hypothetical gods and an infinite pool of gods that nobody has yet to even ideate of, then you would eternally suffer in the Bad Afterlife if the Other God exists, and you would experience no harm in the absence of an afterlife if no God exists. Pascal argued that the risks of reward vs. punishment meant that believing in God was the logical choice to for one to benefit oneself, rather than a belief in God being a logical choice of reality.
My rebuttal to this is that hypothetically only those who believe in an afterlife will necessarily go to the Bad Afterlife and suffer forever, whereas disbelievers in an afterlife will either go to the Good Afterlife or to no afterlife at all. This scenario may sound arbitrary and made up, but I don’t make the rules of the universe— that’s on a hypothetical and mysterious God to decide, if such one exists. The existence of a God/universe with rational or irrational motives to decide that those who believe in an afterlife must go to the Bad Afterlife forever… is as unknowable as the existence of Pascal’s God. Personally, I don’t believe in an afterlife since I wouldn’t want to take my chances with a belief in an afterlife dooming me to the Bad Afterlife, but my disbelief doesn’t make the hypothetical any less true. You may consider the possibility of such afterlife criteria to be an illogical assessment of reality, but Pascal also acknowledged that his wager is contingent upon foregoing a logical assessment of reality in favor of what would logically benefit oneself.
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Pascal's Wager, as well as other "logical proofs" for God like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, never get Christians or other religious people anywhere they want to go. Even if we accept their conclusions as given, it tells us nothing about the nature of that god. They want their god to be the one, and that doesn't follow from any of these. Which is what the comic in OP is getting at.
As far as the conclusions go, worshiping the Flying Spaghetti Monster is as good as any.
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You’d find out you were in the bad place in like 5 minutes tops
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This has multiple inconsistencies. First of all speaking of "Christian God" is ignoring the Abrahamic Faith existing well before Christianity and the prophethood and message of Mohammed peace and blessing be upon him, clarifying a lot of the positions that contemporary Christianity got wrong from the Islamic perspective. Now whether you believe in it is a different question, but evidently Christianity is only a part of the Abrahamic Faith.
Second of all, if there is only one God, which i am convinced of, there cannot be praying to "the wrong one". In that sense also the comic is falling short of basic logic. It does not matter in which language you say "God" if you believe in his oneness.
Third of all, if you accept God as the creator of everything, his promise of the afterlife and his expectation of worship, then you have to accept the existence of Gods messengers and prophets. Now there is the risk of following a false prophet, but by learning about the messengers and prophets you have the ability to discern false prophets and false teachings.
Finally your argument is based on assuming God to not have given you the means to know, thereby you would not be judged if you choose to stay ignorant, however the opposite is true by the scriptures. Seeking knowledge of God and his message and being sincere in your efforts will be rewarded and your mistakes will be forgiven if you sincerely repent for them. You know about God and evidently have some concept of his promises and warnings. Thereby you cannot claim a lack of knowledge as you have the duty to learn and build a correct understanding.
If you say you don't believe because that is what is in your heart that is one thing, but claiming to not believe based on that being your "best bet" will not work.
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If we wish to be very pedantic on your first point. Judaism as seen at the time of Jesus Christ died out with the destruction of the second temple in 70 A.D. With only very few scattered communities remaining today. Rabinic Judaism as seen now and what many would consider Judaism is based on a series of works culminated in the Talmud written around 500 A.D. with old testament religious laws. Furthermore, since Mohammed lived between 570 and 632, Orthodox Christianity and Catholicism are the oldest Abrahamic religion. Also, Christianity has many more followers than Islam and Judaism, making the term Christian God not wrong.
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Wheeeee mental gymnastics.
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Total obliteration seems more merciful than the eternal torment promised by Christianity.
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Zozozozozozozo
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Well, he gave his best shot. Next time he might try a more rigorous vetting system rather than just picking the most popular one in his home town.
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Doug Forcett got it 92% correct.
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"Wait so I'm being judged for being too meta?"
"It's not a sin, but I will judge you for it."
"Some shitty little middle management removed is going to judge me?"
"...Fuck you, die." Zaps into oblivion
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You were expecting the storm god of the Sinai desert, maybe?
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A Short Stay In Hell
Short novella based on this exact premise. If you have never encountered it before, I urge you to give it a read. It's excellent. Also very disturbing.
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So who do non-believers like me meet?
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In this scenario, some random ass folk deity. In all likelihood, nothing. Because there would no longer be a "you" and there was never "a thing to meet."
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Bad people instead suffer eternal tinnitus I guess.
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This is why Benny is my role model on religion.
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