Google are so shit

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How many chrome vs Firefox memes do you want Lemmy?

We can only hope. But then again, we saw how people act when it comes to those changes. They will try it for a bit but then fall right back and accept the shit they wanted to flee from.
- Nah, Firefox is actually a good browser. I’ve switched to Firefox ever since I heard about the upcoming changes and have never wanted to switch back.
- i switched to a chromium browser for features that have since been added to firefox. if something serious were to happen, i will gladly switch back over.
  
  Look up WEI API. Something serious is happening.
- On one hand I agree but on the other I feel like ads are a lot more trouble than a new browser to most users so that part might actually work for us. The really sad thing is that all browsers want to support all majore websites and once something like Youtube requires web DRM we basically lost because everyone will add it! :/

Anyone have any content blocker for chrome? I want to see adds only
- Use pihole in whitelist mode and download every ad list you can find
- Don't worry, google will handle it for you
- Page one of any Google search result should get you fairly close.
- Personally I'd like to only see multiplies, thanks.

Firefox is faster than ever, and I trust Mozilla a fair bit more than Google to not be shady with my data. The switch is painless, and ads these days cover what feels like over half the page.. it's insane.
I run ff on my phone and PC, with all the privacy settings maxed. Ublock also works on Android and makes those trashy BuzzFeed style sites readable.

thank you for posting the image directly on the instance youre using and not on some random website ive never heard about before that still uses http
- I used 0x0.st. Mlem doesn't support uploading documents.
  
  what is 0x0.st, why doesnt it use https and why cant mlem be used to post pngs and/or jpegs?

Death to Google. After that Microsoft is next on my list.

I know that the jump to chrom was aided by a number of factors, with one of the bigger ones being how fluid technology use was at the time. Everything was new and anything could become number 1.
Still it's so frustrating that when firefox had the memory leak and "took a long time to launch" the web was flooded with complaints and people jumping to chrome and congratulating google on what a modern browser they built.
Meanwhile everytime chrome gets caught with high memory usage, pushing their own web standards, or destroying adblock and a free web as we know it, the internet as a whole shrugs as if there isnt anything that can be done.
- Remember Google AMP? And Google was proxying sites that implemented it? That shit would have been so abused if it had reached as critical mass as Chrome

I just did this some weeks ago, and the switch has been seamless. So long Chrome 😊 !

Not gonna lie, unlike just of you guys I don't really care for ad blocking. I pay for YouTube premium and other sites I visit I don't really get bothered by it.
However I'm more disturbed about the overreach this is and the control we're giving to Google or whoever. That's the reason I use Firefox.
- Its like a ransom if the stakes were as low as possible. They hold your state of non-annoyance hostage and ask for a negligible amount for it so no one gets emotionally involved in this exchange regardless of whether or not they wanna pay the ransom. Instead of subterfuge or the threat of violence they "get away with it" by nature of being generally inconsequential.
  All this to say, seeing as you payed the "ransom", I would personally describe you as more bothered by ads than anyone else. Not a value judgement, just an observation.
  In order of least to most bothered by ads, doesn't it make sense to assume
  People who watch ads (unbothered)
  People who install adblockers (somewhat bothered)
  People that pay money to remove ads (extremely bothered)

Ads are annoying yes, but I can understand why they're there. And for ones that you just scroll by, it's nbd, really.
It's the ones that don't scroll past and just cover a chunk of screen til you manually close them that should never be allowed in any context, ever, at all. I don't care if the advertiser is paying me in free hourly blowjobs, forcing me to make an extra click is unforgivable in any circumstance. Especially on mobile pages, where they tend to stack up, or decide that your "close" click is actually a "take me to your offer, please" click, if it even counts at all. Or I guess I mean tap.

I've tried firefox in the past. Back and forth I go when google does something dumb but I always go back. This time I think I'll deal with the stuff I don't like for now, or maybe make extensions to fill the voids that I miss desperately.
- Been using it since the start of the year, the transition was pretty simple. what don't you like?
  
  I rely on chromes tab groupings. Nothing in Firefox does as good a job, but I'm getting by just fine for now.
  
  15 years ago, Firefox would cause my desktop computer to spin up its really loud fan once or twice an hour. It was a room away from my bedroom, but it was enough to wake up my (now) wife, who was angry, but unable to identify the source of the noise. That lasted for a few weeks before I noticed it during the day. When I switched to Chrome, it stopped.
  It's totally unreasonable, but it's enough to keep me off Firefox. I'm sure both browsers have been rewritten multiple times since then.
  Well, it was, until the whole "web integrity thing".

We both know barely a single person this is referring to even knows what a browser is

If you are a Mac user, Orion is also a great choice.

Who the fuck using chrome anyway? It was good while it was lightweight, but it quickly got fat.
- Pretty much every Windows and Android user. At my school Chrome is the standard, so I ended up taking in Phyrox on a stick until I could start bringing my own hardware.

I just tried Firefox: Startup took around 40 seconds, UI was not responsive at all, and I couldn’t install locally developed extensions.
- Snap version?
  
  Ubuntu moment
  
  Nope, right from the repos.
- 40 seconds? I’ve never experienced that with Firefox at all. You’re either being hyperbolic or have an ancient computer. I have a Samsung Windows 10 machine from 2015 that opens Firefox just as quickly as it opens Chrome.
  
  Nope, neither. But since I don't get any console output I have no way to debug this.
- And what about the second time you started it and it didn't need to build a user profile first?
  
  I thought the same, but no, takes that long, too.
- I use Firefox daily on 5-7 different machines. It's your machine, not the browser lol
  
  But I wonder, why. No other application behaves like this. Even heavyweights like Kdenlive start up within 2-3 seconds.
  Unfortunately Firefox does not print anything out on command line so I have no way to debug this.
- 40 seconds to boot? I've never experienced this even on my 20 years old potatoe. I find that very hard to believe.
  
  Yep. I don't think it's a performance issue. But I don't get any logs either.
- 40 seconds startup?! What? Should open within like 2-3 Seconds. 5 if your system RAM is maxing out.
  Abou locally developed extensions, you will need to follow the specific developer directions on that. But if you code, you should've figured that out already. If not, you tried doing shady things, which Firefox rightfully blocked.
- I also experienced this, and immediately after a reinstall, Firefox decided that it didn't like to be reinstalled and bricked my OS. I had to completely reinstall it because the boot section was nowhere to be found, and barely any data was salvageable.
  So, even if Chrome is bad, I prefer to use Ungoogled Chromium or other chromium forks that don't nuke my computer than using a browser that has consistently given me extreme problems.

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