When you have the attention span of a fly and the constipation of a sloth

And at the end homie still has no idea which parts of the information came from real books and which was just a hallucination.
People like this don't care about the truth and just want signal shaped noise.
- I'm stealing signal shaped noise.
- Everything is a hallucination, just some happen to correlate with reality.

Does this dude still not understand that he has to read the information presented to him?
- Also who can read a book in 2 hours and actually understand it.
  
  Depends on the book and depends on the subject.
  Some people are able to Crush sizable books in a few hours
  
  Some books are pretty short, and some people are quick readers.
  
  I read about 60-100pg/h. Something like a shakespeare play that has dialog and therefore less words per page can go faster. I don't use speed reading techniques and I always did fine on AR tests and book reports (i never bothered using cliff notes cause I actually like reading).
- He has to read it, but he doesn't have to interpret it. It's like the mental equivalent of those floating chairs from Wall-E
  
  Well, it would be, if the chairs actually didn't move from one place to another.
- throw an AI Speech Assistant into the mix.
  But nobody can help them to understand what was presented. For that they lack a brain.
- He clearly does not

Books are where it's at!

Dang. They're publicly announcing that they're proud that they don't read.
We must be in a golden age for con-artists.
Easy marks are announcing themselves to the world.
- Worse, they're glorifying the loss of critical thinking and analytical skill that would've been gained from reading. They aren't just becoming perfect con marks, they're loudly, and PROUDLY crippling themselves intellectually in an effort to appear "cool" today.
  They're literally wagering their own intellectual future against the hope that what effectively amounts to a drugged-up version of Clippy will, against all common sense, decency, and economic theory, become so mainstream and ubiquitous that Humanity as a whole ends up relying on them for everything.
  It's complete and utter madness.
  
  "Give me a 3 tier summary of 1984"
  "Sure! 1984 is a happy story about American glory. The main themes are having a lot of children, loving our almighty Lord, and family values. Would you like more information on which vaccines to avoid?"

The idea of spending two minutes to think of "precisely the information I need" is so funny. Like... Yeah dude. If I needed to know an exact piece of information, I could probably just search for it in the regular way. Reading a book, especially a nonfiction book, teaches you a lot about the subject and allows you to back up your answer and understand the context. Having an AI tell AI to compile information that an AI will then turn into a summary is fucking useless. Just search for it on the internet if you know the exact information you need. Not to mention that if there are that many layers of AI, it would be very difficult to separate the hallucinations from the 'good' information presented. But yeah homie you're an expert
- especially a nonfiction book
  I'd argue this is at least as relevant for fiction books. Most books that are considered "good" or "masterpieces" haven't earned that from the story but from how it is told, from the language used, the writing style, how a greater picture is painted. Any German student who had to go through the pains of reading a Thomas Mann novel will know what I am talking about, that dude could have written a 150 page book with 90 sentences. Of course you can read an analysis of symbolism and style characteristics used and the plot summary, but it isn't the same as reading the novel, as the story will not grasp you in the same way. It's not about the content, it's about its presentation. (In the case of Thomas Mann the pain is a vital part of the presentation.)

The 58 minutes of coffee is necessary in preparation of the all-nighter that will follow once he realize that some of the information is hallucinated and he now needs to manually look at all the sources and check them
- He's not going to realize anything ever again, these are the people who are outsourcing their thoughts to a chatbot.

Who the fuck is reading a whole book in 2 hours??? Is this normal? Am I dumb? I feel very threatened
- Who the fuck drinks coffee for 58 minutes?
  
  I have a double-walled cafetiere and a double-walled mug that combine to make a very pleasant slow coffee experience
  
  I drink my two cups from the time it finishes brewing until lunch
  
  If I forget about it, it can take all day to finish a cup.
  
  My coworkers start drinking coffee at 8 am and don't seem to stop until 1pm....
- Depends on the book
  
  Even like the oxford short introduction series books usually take me closer to 3
- I can read a whole coloring book in 4 hours.
  
  Damn, you dumb.
- Academically, that’s called “reading diagonally”
  
  Ah so that's what Harry Potter was trying to do that time
- Depends on book, how absorbed you are, how much time you have to put aside, etc.
  Everyone does everything at their own pace, don't feel threatened. That's a mug's game
  
  I'm mostly being facetious, I love to read, but I tend to read a lot of nonfiction shit like Chomsky or Stephen Kinzer. I'm not worried that I'm dumb, I am a little shook about the idea of finishing a book in 2 hours though honestly.
- That’s about my average, but I’m hyperlexic.
- I can knock out Fun with Dick and Jane in 30 minutes flat. So, extrapolate as you will from there. ¯(ツ)_/¯
  
  There's a sex joke in there somewhere.
  
  The Pearl by Steinbeck is quite short

This dude is comparing needing a search engine to reading a book. Smh.
- If only they were using search engines. Instead, they're using algorithms that learned in which order humans like to see alphabetic characters in response to some input alphabetic characters.

Not knowing how to read isn't the flex you think it is
- I was jealous they read it in 2 hours. I'd spend 2 hours a night for a week to finish most books I enjoy reading.
  Number of times I re-read the same paragraph because I got distracted worrying about bills - 7. That's usually when I have to give up reading for the night when I finish that chapter.
  
  Goodnight Moon takes them a bit more time to read.

this actually terrifies me.
School isn't supposed to be "won" it's supposed to teach you shit you'll need later in life. Getting stuff wrong is part of the learning process. If all students do anymore is type LLM prompts they are fucking themselves up in the future. And they are fucking up other people's future as well.
But honestly I could be completely wrong - LLM prompt writers may become a big salary job and actually knowing anything will be passe and not necessary. I just don't want to live in that world.
Sincerely
Grumpy old fuck
- Is there a non-religious version of the Amish or something? That lifestyle seems more and more appealing,. This AI stuff really isn't leading anywhere good.
  
  The Luddite's?
- Trust your instincts. If it's really easy to write LLM prompts and generate consistently useful quality output, then there's no chance you'll make a lot of money doing so. You won't even make a little money doing so, because that work will be outsourced to another country with a lower minimum wage.
  Of course that's the point. The AI snake oil sales people want bosses to believe that they can underpay or fire employees, but we know that it doesn't work that way, that all of these companies are just screwing about to make a little bit of money for either the shareholders or the bosses or both.
- Back in my school days we just copy assignments from a web that hosted usual school assignments from different places. "ElRinconDelVago" was called.
  Teachers even had "ElRicon" detection mechanisms as they have now with LLMs.
  Students always find the way to be lazy and cheese their way over homework.

Okay, but what about the last 60 minutes? Is this not a side by side comparison?
- The AI told them that 2 minutes + 58 minutes > 2 hours, and apparently they believed it (perhaps bc 60 really is a higher number than 2?🤪).
  MANAGEMENT MATERIAL, PROMOTE THIS PERSON IMMEDIATELY!!!
  
  Failing upwards: the true mark of genius.

"Well structured query" is what got me.
If I read up on a subject for two hours, chances are I am going to learn things that have nothing to do with the original problem.
- Yes because you didn't take 2 min to think of precisely the information you need, you see! /s
  This is so dumb. Of course the purpose of learning is to go beyond what you know, including what you do not know that you do not know. It's not even serendipitous, it's just learning.
  Rage bait AI shill gets tiring.

"You study diligently, while I cheat and learn nothing" You're goddamned right we're not the same, and I hope I never slip to the level of quality this guy does. Chuds believing what this guy believes is job security for me.

Argues that the book summary is the book.
Bottom text.

The emperor's clothes are beautiful.
- I agree. Lovely suit. Particularly the pants.

Then proceeds to think the AI hallucinations they've been spoonfed are facts.

And the math skills of a kindergartener.
- The extra hour is for his nap time

Imagine believing using scuffed AI output for your work is a flex.

Perfectly good approach if you know the subject well enough to know that the information you think you need is really what you need.
But if you were using a book in that scenario you wouldn't open it to page 1 and spend 2 hours reading it. You would glance through the index or TOC to find the relevant section (or flip right to it because you're familiar with the book), then skim to what you need and read just that. You could also do this with an entirely unfamiliar book if you know the subject matter. I used to write my papers like that all the time. Either way, this approach could easily take less time than crafting a good prompt and tweaking it for a second or third run to make it work.
Since the AI search is being compared with reading an entire book, it seems reasonable to assume OP is talking about a different scenario where they don't know the subject well enough to use a simple search engine to simply look up a piece of information. They want to avoid learning the subject by having the AI teach them only the part they're guessing is relevant. This scenario is asking for AI hallucinations, omission of subtle but important details through oversummarizing, and general inaccuracy that OP will be oblivious to since they don't know the subject. OP might as well suggest browsing through memes.

You: Wastes 34 minutes of OpenAI's server time and 58 minutes of everyone's time because you don't already know something because you never acrually learned it
Me: Learned the thing properly so I don't have to spend any time doing that
We are not the same
(This is so much worse if they aren't just technical books...)

Bro needs 58 minutes to drink a cup of coffee.

This is written like one of his "agents" is also in charge of social media posts lol.

Sloppers gonna slop

For those of us new to whatever this is, I'm legitimately curious about what a "3-level summary" is.
- I assume it's an abstraction thing; e.g. macro and micro economics. Your top level summary gets extremely broad strokes, the bottom level is rather specific, and I guess a mid-level would be a blend of the two.
- I would guess 3 summaries, one written for someone who doesn't know anything about the topic, one for experts on the topic and one for people with some understanding of the topic.

It is interesting how people think that they know exactly what they're going to write before they even start. Of course, most professional writers will tell you otherwise. You have to put the words on paper to see how they fit and to see if you're happy with them.
- absolutely. sometimes things as simple as a one-to-one DM or email requires me to actually start writing first, to get my thoughts "on paper" first, in order to actually see through the word salad that my thought soup cooked up, and then sorting through the mess to get a coherent sentence or two in the final version that i actually send.

Yeah nice, if your question is so straight-forward that it takes two minutes to think of what you need to know and the answer can be summarised.
However, I suspect that if somebody is reading an entire book, they might be looking for something a bit more nuanced.
Robolovers are such low hanging fruit but everybody loves a piñata.

The future is going to be discussing ideas with people disguised as chatgpt. But given how uninformed right wing people are I'm already mentally prepared to encounter arguments that are complete bullshit.

Constipation? Lol
- Yes.... Maybe the extra 58 saved is drinking coffee on the toilet trying to get things moving again?

🤮

Is there some sort of “they did the math” type place where you can ask people to do math about things? I want someone to do the math on how much CO2 this would likely create
- Wolfram Alpha maybe. Or a LLM.

The leader is a follower and the follower is a leader that is dead if there is a hell it is inside your head. We are approaching the self fuffiling prophecy. The singularity of "hey mom look no hands." A broken wing, a bird that is a rock and a world of just thots.

Me: i did my chemistry final without a calculator, i want a skide rulet, abd i have memorized several standard to metric conversions.
You: brain machine go brrrrrrrrr
We are not the same

What a doofus