Are we committed to Lemmy? or would we move if something better comes along?
Are we committed to Lemmy? or would we move if something better comes along?
No one really knows how things will play out but I was wondering if people are committed to Lemmy, or would the mod team migrate to greener pastures if a better, more functional alternative comes to the forefront.
I'm hoping Lemmy can improve but I personally don't love using it. Its still early days though so that might change. There are a couple promising alternatives in development right now but since they aren't out, everyone is migrating to lemmy.
As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.
I'm committed to ActivityPub. I don't really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.
Eh. I was on Mastodon for a few days then left. Turns out I don't care to follow specific people. So it's a bit more than the protocol I will chase. The type of interaction also matters a lot.
This.
i did a lookup for ActivityPub, found an article and an image. thanks!
Why ActivityPub specifically?
For clarity, I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand.
It’s a widely accepted standard for decentralised social media. It can be adapted to many use cases relatively easily. If someone makes a better link aggregator server based on ActivityPub, it would be much easier to bring all the lemmy data and users to it than if someone started from scratch. As in what happened going from Reddit to lemmy, as Reddit doesn’t have a standardised federation behavior.
Not OP but probably because it let's us all communicate with each other. I can watch und discuss stuff from Kbin and even had a couple of Mastodon users commenting in one of my threads. It doesn't look you on a platform, everything is more or less cross platform.
It seems like lemmy picked up the bulk of the refugees so far. Shifting again would be risky at this point, it just serves to dilute the numbers again. Some stay, some go etc.
I firmly believe this is only the beginning here. Reddit is probably fine to lurk so long as old.red*it.com remains, but it has become a pretty hostile place for people who participate.
My prediction is that reddit will just end up hosting content posted by bots and commented on by different bots and nobody will have any idea that there's so few real users left. This will become the home for actual discussion between humans.
As a matter of fact: I'm already eyeing to move to Kbin as soon as I can manage to install it on my server. If something even better comes up and it also works with ActivityPub, then back to moving ships it is for me
A lot of people switched to lemmy recently, so the development focus is on scaling for now. It'll probably take a while until that's sorted out properly and the devs can focus on accessibility.
I think lemmy is a good place for this community because we don't need to worry about big platforms overmoderating.
Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.
But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)
I started on Mastodon last year and watching it increase in size by orders of magnitude over the last several months has been a beautiful thing to watch. I am thrilled Lemmy has taken off, finally. The fediverse has restored my faith in humanity quite a bit and consuming it feels healthier, there is no way I am going back to centralised platforms. Come to mastodon and get a glimpse at what Lemmy may become. :)
100% agree!
But yes, it’s the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse.
Agreed. I think the fediverse is still pioneer territory.
No apollo app no reddit. I agree the UI/UX is problematic but the native reddit ad filled app is way worse. Lemmy both has lots of room to still improve the experience but its build well enough already to actually function and people to be here.
Its also open source, decentralized, possible to self host. Aka owned by the people rather then corpos. All those things for the new homepage of the internet? I can only get so errect.
Memmy is starting to look like it could be an Apollo for Lemmy soon.
I literally just download it. Your reply is my first notification on it. 🐭
+1 For Memmy. App looks promising.
https://wefwef.app has an identical UI to apollo
I am committed to federated services from here on out. I am personally really liking lemmy... There are some minor annoyances but nothing major. The mobile browsing experiences makes me pretty cozy. With the dark theme it's not too far from rif. Apps and plugins are coming that will make it that next special thing. Like I couldn't imagine aliensite without old and res. It's coming... I'm loving it.
I’m a week into having setup my own personal instance and LOVING Lemmy. The community, the software stack, federation, all of it. I don’t visit reddit daily anymore (15 year old reddit account to be deleted this week once 3rd party apps get shut down).
Exact same situation (Instance been about 3 weeks now). I went back to the alien.site once to make a throw away account to update a community where I had a loose end. Besides that I haven't been back. I had a alien.site account for like 12 years. Basically was my internet. I am loving it here.
I like to remember how ugly and difficult it was to adjust to Reddit after moving from Digg's slick 2.0 interface. I think Lemmy will face more growing pains but will be the best solution in the end.
Reddit has literally never had a good UI/UX. It was worth it because it was the best alternative at the time.
That said, my requirements for a reddit alternative would have to be decentralized and open source. I just couldn't get into another situation like this one and I won't support it.
Come on, give it some time. It's coming a long way, and devs are working their ass off to deliver some quality updates.
Also, there are a dozen apps in the works for iOS and Android that are to be released soon, if that's not already the case. So you should have more choice to pick a better experience browsing lemmy in the coming days.
There's already jerboa for android, made by lemmy.ml devs, kind of an "official" app
I am more than willing to wait for Lemmy to grow to see where it heads since it's only been a thing since 2019.
Despite it having its fair share of problems, I am more than willing to put up with this for now since we're still scratching the surface on the potential of a decentralized social media becoming a little more mainstream.
I'm obviously very committed. But I understand the frustration. However be a bit patient, the interest in the Software is just beggining and it has a completely open API. Great frontends will be developed very shortly
As a user of old.reddit I really don't even find this interface to be much different. It really seems to be similar. Some of the issues I see as confusing comes to the federation specific things. As someone new to federation but from a technical background even I am finding that aspect confusing. So I imagine for people less tech savvy it would be an even harder learning curve. The idea of going to a completely separate domain, but being able to still subscribe to their community via the dbzer0 account is a totally different kind of concept and the UI can make it a bit complicated.
But overall using one specific instance feels very similar to the old.reddit UI if not slightly nicer in my opinion.
I've been a redditor for more than 16 years. Due the the recent events, I've been through my comments/submission history, noticing how much more active I was in the beginning. For the past, I don't know, 5 or more years, I've been just lurking less and less, to the point that when it came to delete my content and account, I didn't even have any regrets. Just did it, and that was it.
Now comes the fediverse. Here I am, commenting again, actively checking what's happening here with a renewed enthusiasm. So yes, I'm excited for it being FOSS, federated, decentralized. By the people, for the people. Yay!
Same here, and that's great to see.
I'm not necessarily committed to Lemmy, but I am fairly committed to a fediverse Reddit-like app. And Lemmy is the one I've liked the most. The nice thing is, if something comes along that you prefer, you could switch to that and we'd still be able to interact.
As long as that other app also uses activitypub which might not be the case
A piracy forum needs to be decentralised and based on FOSS software to be able to have quality content, we are not advertisement friendly lol.
Lemmy is the best option.
If not Lemmy then maybe a discourse forum but that would be even worse for mobile users.
Lemmy will only get better from now on, but tbh I prefer its UI over other alternatives official app.
I'm committed to open source (or at the very least indie dev) more than to a single platform.
I will switch if something better comes along that is decentralized.
The profit motive poisons everything and turns it to shit. I won't join a social again if it can be purchased to turn me into another metric on a spreadsheet for someone to sell.
That's a key part of the dialogue. Social media is not quite infrastructure, and it's not a service that can be monetized without moral hazard of some kind. It should therefore be owned and operated by communities.
IMO, the solution is not to switch to something better, but to communicate to the developers on how to make the UI/UX better
They seem to be ramping up the updates lately.
Yep, I'm on lemmy.ca and in my settings I found Rediggit as a theme, which makes lemmy look similar to Old Reddit, so there's definitely progress
Yeah, we must keep forking or invention as a last resort to prevent fragmentation in the community.
I'd think that we're here for the quality of our experience and not for loyalty to a specific platform. Lemmy has some great advantages, especially for those of us fresh from Reddit who are sick and tired of corporate shennanigans and enshitification.
There's lemmy politics which seems about disagreements that may or may not lead to defederating. But this isn't for me a dealbreaker, and Reddit corporate made it super clear that it was on the side of the conservatives even if it found their hate speech brand-unsafe. My kind were not liked, and we could expect spittle in our drinks now and again.
So what would woo me away from Lemmy? Only if I found subs of my interests that I couldn't find here, and then I'd haunt both platforms.
We're just getting started. Sync for Lemmy and Memmy's (heavily inspired by Apollo) release in a few weeks will go a long way for accessibility, and will likely already offer better UX than reddit.
No doubt contributors in the GitHub will add similar UX features as those fantastic apps once they're out.
Sync for Lemmy
I can't believe I somehow missed this, and I use Sync! The recent UI changes were a godsend, swipe to upvote is very convenient.
Yeah people are not spreading the word about these fantastic apps coming to Lemmy as much as they should
Lemmy? Not specifically committed to Lemmy forever, but I very much see myself using it as my top Social Media 2-3 years from now.
I’m really invested that Lemmy (and the Fediverse in general) is only going to get more awesome.
I’m just the past few weeks we’ve seen growth in not only the infrastructure, apps, and features of Lemmy, but there’s really great conversations happening around how the community is growing and possible threats to the system from big corps.
I think the Fediverse is a great place and is a great future of “Social Media”.
Even if no one else joins Fedi, I think we have enough entertaining content and news to sustain me for a long time. More people will join, though. Things will keep getting better, but it will take time.
Fuck Reddit, Fuck Twitter, Fuck FAANG. I hope distributed is the future.
I am pretty committed. I even volunteered to help with devops stuff with my country's instance to make it a better experience for the local community. I actually wished more communities move here.
if its not lemmy it should at least be ActivityPub compliant so users can make the decision how to follow, participate
Personally I will try to be active in contributing to ideas for lemmy improvement. If you are having a problem in the UI/UX part of lemmy. Then is is a good idea to let your voice be heard and suggest some QOL improvements. That way the devs have more options to look at when considering some UI/UX alterations.
I really like the idea. There one major issue that I see currently, and that is discoverability. It takes some real effort and time to explore things outside of your own instance. I think the federation of pre-federation content will be important for discoverability, since the foundation of a community is in it's ranking of posts, which takes time and interaction. Right now, votes, comments, and most posts pre-federation on another instance are just not reachable.
I believe this problem can be solved, and there are a lot of motivated developers here, so I'm all in on lemmy.
And unfortunately if you are the first from your instance to discover a community, currently your instance can only pull new content after you initiated the subscribe.
This obviously can be fixed with allowing the Admin to set back-pull limits. Also for discoveribility, we need a central indexer, which is possible but would need to be worked out who runs it, costs etc.
looks like https://lemmyverse.net/ is doing a decent job with indexing at the moment. I do honestly feel that indexing should take place on every instance, since each instance has a unique position in the network, and the indexing parameters/ranking algorithms could be under per-instance control rather than an outside third party.
What alternatives?
Maybe ask this question again if there actually is something better. But i'd agree. The UI should be accessible for people with disability. But maybe we need to work on lemmy and make that possible instead of waiting for something else to come along.
@hendrik @Blackbeard Keep an eye on the RBlind folks because they are working on patches to solve this problem but yes, the community of developers could/should step in to make it work. There's also KBin https://rblind.com/
Exactly. What alternative? 4chan? Twitter?
I'm really into the Fediverse, so it would have to be another Fediverse software.
I think the thing there is if it's federated it'll probably end up federating with lemmy anyway
I‘m committed to decentralized social media, so for now that’s this and kbin yeah.
I hope though that eventually a better UI in some app can help with your disability, being physically ill doesn‘t sound like a good time at all.
Same. The UI and apps and whatnot will all improve given time. You already have a bunch of new people working on new apps.
I am hard committing to decentralized social media.
I'd assume people move when something better comes around.
But "better, more functional" is a relative term. Not sure that many here would be willing to forgo federation, and thus the independence from corporations, which especially don't like piracy.Btw, have you specifically told people what about the UI/UX you find problematic, so that it could be improved?
And has kbin the same issue for you (as it federates as well, you can travel this community through kbin just fine)But "better, more functional" is a relative term. Not sure that many here would be willing to forgo federation, and thus the independence from corporations, which especially don't like piracy.
I wonder how Raddle.me would be? They seem to have some policies similar to what I've seen for torrent sites
I like Raddle - They already tried moving the /r/Piracy community there earlier but it didn't pan out. There's still a /f/Piracy community there that could be used as a backup in case something goes wrong here.
Technically someone could set up a Postmill instance (Raddle's backend software) anywhere & have their own community along with it. One upside with Postmill is that it plays nice with Tor, Raddle itself has a Tor address so does not need to be accessed on the clearnet.
The nice thing about the fediverse is that if you find something else federated that you like, then you can just use it. You move to the new instance running the software you actually like, and resubscribe to the communities you like on the original instances.
There's already kbin as an alternative (the largest instance of that is at https://kbin.social/), I believe you can subscribe to lemmy and kbin communities using friendica, and I can already see a lot of other options coming down the pipe.
OTOH, I've been here for years. I chose to go all-in on the fediverse a couple years ago.
With the number of new apps coming out, hopefully somebody will come up with one that you can use without feeling physically ill. There's going to be a lot of options in a few weeks.
Have you considered writing up what exactly is problematic about the UI? Maybe it's something that can be resolved
i'm using thunder right now, i love the UI, it still lack a few funcrions, but man, it's being added fast
Been here for a few years now. It's the same as always. Use a site til it turns evil/bad, then move on, someone else will take its place.
I love the idea of lemmy tho. and so far so good. But dont be married or make it personal if something turns bad online.
Fediverse apps (though not Lemmy yet because they sort of accidentally exploded in popularity) let you migrate your data. This is the killer app, so there's very little opportunity for Lemmy to "go bad". Unlike Reddit where this sort of thing has to be built out separately and Reddit itself may take action (such as removing API, because they think they own your data), Fediverse explicitly has the functionality so you can move. This means moving from Lemmy to some other fedi-app should be fairly easy.
I was wondering about that. But I can't find an easy way to do it.
If I hypothetically wanted to move from from lemmy.ml to another instance, how would I do it short of starting over without my subscriptions/comments/posts?
Why WOULDN'T we move off if something better came along?
I think being open to change is good. Right now, I'm committed to lemmy. There are a few wrinkles here and there, so I'm hoping those things get sorted out.
However, if it turns to shit or a much better one comes along, then I'll definitely consider moving. Individually that's easy. For a community, though, it might be challenging.
I'm hoping kbin will be more popular and improve at it gains users. I like the microblogging feature, because it 'tiers' the content we'd share, and makes different users/communities easier to discover.
But it's a very new platform, so it will be a while before it sees fruition; it also has almost all users on a single instance kbin.social; so other instances lack content (it doesn't federate as cleanly as Lemmy) and makes users over-reliant on the admins of that instance, undermining the point of federation.
Unfortunately few platforms design with accessibility in mind; they consider it a 'nice to have', not a 'need to have'. As platforms get bigger they'll gain the interest of coders that consider accessibility to be as much a 'need to have' as the rest of the front-end. After all, Reddit itself was never accessible - 3rd party devs made it so, and they will again.
Connect for lemmy is rad, honestly just need to convert more people and get the apple apps out of beta
I think being commited no-matter-what to any product is unhealthy. Lemmy looks great so far, despite still being early in development. But there's also kbin and other alternatives that might improve significantly in the future - if they do, I see no reason to not change the platform.
Exactly. Right now I am staying on Lemmy, but I said the same thing a year or two ago about Reddit. If something fucks up I'm happy to pack up shop and move.
There is way too little nsfw content on here to make this a permanent replacement
Clearly not a Lemmynsfw.com enjoyer 😔
Seriously. There are communities for fetishes I didn't even know existed over there. Sorting by local can be a WILD fuckin ride.
Then post some yourself. People love to complain without doing anything about it. That is why so many people will continue to use Reddit even if they have to use the crappy app they complained so much about. Pathetic
Lemmy has certainly already won me over reddit. Going back to centralized social media is something I will actively avoid if at all possible.
However I believe nostr is a theoretically better protocol than activitypub. Having your account/identity tied so strongly to a particular instance is undesirable. As soon as there is a reddit-like (or even forum-like) client for nostr which is relatively active/polished, I will switch. Nip 172 can't come soon enough.
In addition to being less popular / newer than activitypub, nostr is also full of bitcoin[^1] bros and twitter refugees (not my crowd). But frankly I think complaints about that are like the complaints that lemmy is a place for tankies a couple years ago when people's only exposure was to a (much smaller than today) lemmy.ml.
[^1]: monero support would be nice though...
However I believe nostr is a theoretically better protocol than activitypub
While there's a grain of truth in this, I don't think anybody should be pushing for some standard to be "the" standard which eclipses all others now and forever. People, given sufficient freedom and knowledge, will gravitate towards what works best, be it old or new. Nostr is simply the protocol I prefer. I think it's better. Why pretend otherwise just becoause activitypub happened to come first and thus is currently more popular?
Nostr seems more like Twitter? Or are you saying that it could be adapted for Reddit-like usage (similar to Mastodon->Lemmy)
- These can go hand in hand - you need money saved (not credit) to strike.
I like Lemmy. Version 0.18.0 fixed some annoying bugs I had so I'm quite happy about that, and newer versions will fix even more bugs.
I still want to be able to click on a message to mark it as read without having to click specifically the checkmark.
Maybe Lemmy won't be the right fit in the longer run, although development seems pretty good currently.
Whats more important to me is, how the adoption of ActivityPub evolves and the Fediverse developes in the long run.
I love it. It’s missing a lot of the things I disliked about the other place which is fantastic. It’s reasonably barebones by comparison and I am totally fine with it.
The only issue I have is some of my interests aren’t represented here (or I haven’t found them yet) and that’s something that will come with time or me actually putting in a bit of effort to create. Not the platform’s fault.
I'm interested to know specifically what about the UI/UX makes you physically ill? Even as someone without a physical disability I can see issues, but would love to hear more about your perspecive.
It's under active, heavy development and the devs seem to be taking merge requests for accessibility issues.
As long as this "next best thing" retains federation with Activity Pub, I might migrate. Or not. I'm already feeling like an old, change resistant curmudgeon.
As someone who's been sold to Elixir programming, I just want more instances running with Pleroma or some fork (https://github.com/uiri/pleroma), as that already deals very well with large numbers of users with low resource usage, and scales easily.
Yeah I love lemmy too. First time I feel the envy to comment instead of just lurking.
This may be a silly reason, but I'm unable to easily view communities from other federated instances. I wonder if it's just NSFW content? A lot of the more mature content is basically unavailable (I'm registered to sopuli.xyz), which is essentially any WTF or other content with warnings. I may be doing this wrong but I don't like having my content throttled, even unintentionally.
Lemmynsfw is blocked on your instance if that's what you were trying to view https://sopuli.xyz/instances
Yep, that one and others. Thanks for helping me troubleshoot. I guess I'm moving to an instance that lets me control the content I can access. Much appreciated
I think it's pretty well and bugged. The community search is fucking terrible.
My server is still on 0.17.4 (I think due to major security issues with 0.18.0) and the experience is AWEFUL. I also do not want an app but a web interface. Wefwef seam promising.
Also Lemmy needs a lot more content. I hope it will come but I fear the future will be a lot more fragmented. Some of my subreddits moved to their own Discourse instances which are not federated unfortunately. Having to check 10 forums is really annoying.
You can subscribe to their RSS and use a feed aggregator so you don't have to checkout every single website everytime
I know, but for Discourse instances, you get a notification for every single comment.
I wish it was only for new threads or even with a point threshold. That’s what I’m doing with HackerNews and I’m really happy with it.
To me it’s already something that someone has actually moved to Lemmy. As happened with Twitter, the thing lasted a few weeks and almost everyone went back from Mastodon. I have no faith in redditors, this is probably just a phase
Im 100% all in on lemmy and its replaced reddit in its entirety for me and works well using the lemmy app. I also have enough content here to satisfy me so will not be moving unless this stops.
Definitely sticking to lemmy.the fact that I don’t need an “app” or is controlled by some kinda App Store is a win for me.
Personally I am liking squabbles.io way more and spend most of my "reddit replacement time" there. The UX of Lemmy is just woefully short of what I want.
It looks nice and kinda more mature, but I'm in love with the Fediverse.
Not committed, I like Lemmy so far and have no reason to go back to Reddit (I miss mexican news and memes [not the propaganda that the mods from the main sub enabled]), but if something better arises I could easily move over because why not?
I'm intrigued by the idea of nomadic communities jumping from platform to platform. Maybe that will become necessary. Each instance might be less stable than the mega-sites we're used to.
In software, keeping things small means they can be simpler. And simple things tend to have better uptime for less effort. Lemmy is rust based, so performance should be reasonable for most instances. Also, due to the federation, the work for instances is distributed like email, so the system naturally distributes load.
It's probably a lot like IRC, there will be different servers or networks with different specialities, but from a user perspective you can be on many at the same time.
Staying for sure!
The only permanent platform on the internet is usenet.
Hopefully Lemmy matures into something beautiful, but if not, usenet will always be there!
Whats usenet?
A discussion medium that both predates the internet and continues to exist on the internet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
What is great about Lemmy is that anyone could sit down right now and improve the UI/UX.
Interesting to see PWA. With the new iOS it‘ll even support notifications, I think?
Interesting to see PWA. With the new iOS it‘ll even support notifications, I think?
Interesting to see PWA. With the new iOS it‘ll even support notifications, I think?
Interesting to see PWA. With the new iOS it‘ll even support notifications, I think?
Sorry to hear about your accessibility issues. Have you tried any of the apps that have cropped up for testing? Some seem to have very active devs and would probably be happy to listen to how they could help your troubles.
Lemmy know if something better comes along
As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.
Rest assured many developers are working on more accessible mobile apps. I'm not too sure about the web version, though.
I'm thinking of moving to kbin, partly because of all the "defederation" talk on my instance, but also because kbin has a microblog and I like their interface more.
That being said, lemmy is awesome and will keep improving.
I am not completely sold on it personally but I'm willing to give it the old college try. I'm trying to find similar communities and subscribe to them.
I think the end-goal should be that it doesn't matter. Choosing a social media app like reddit, lemmy, twitter, mastodon etc shouldn't matter any more than choosing a web browser. All the content should still be there regardless of which platform a user chooses to use to experience it.
It fills a slightly different niche but there is also aether. I think Lemmy and Aether complement each other. Lemmy federates with other applications but Aether is ephemeral and takes advantage of P2P topology and and cryptography.
I had no idea Aether existed. Thanks for the read!
I only found it earlier today! Seems to work? I'm interested to see how they deal with, you know, fascism and whatnot
I kind of feel like it's in the nature of all things piracy-related to be ready to pick up and relocate on short notice whenever necessary. Things tends to get shut down, taken over or enshitified all the time, and the only solution is to just move the tent down the road.
Do you mean just Lemmy or the fediverse as a whole? Cause I hear some complaints about the ethics of the Lemmy creators and some people are switching to kbin which is still in the fediverse. So I can see people jumping ship to kbin but I already made my Lemmy account and don't really care to switch at the moment. I'm not entirely sure what the situation with Lemmy creators is anyways
Well unless their ideology is baked into the programming I'm not sure why it would matter. It certainly doesn't matter to me.
I feel the same. I can just block instances or people if I don't like it, simple as that lol
Wait. What's kbin? I've seen "@kbin.social" a few times here and assumed kbin must be a lemmy instance?
Just like Lemmy and mastodon, kbin is a platform that also uses ActivityPub, which means it can talk to all other platforms that use ActivityPub.
Those platforms and their instances make up the fediverse and since your lemmy instance is configured to federate with kbin, you can see and interact with the posts and comments made from kbin. The same is true the other way around.
Honestly i would go back to reddit if the hole drama ends. Its not my intension to be rude by any means but I honestly dont care about the politics, im here to pirate free software
Do you care about not seeing ads? Since you apparently like getting stuff for free: this is the free version of reddit
OP check out wefwef.app. It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.
Now it feels just like Reddit except with longer load times.
Not a mod so you might not care about my opinion but...
I don't hate lemmy and hope it will continue to improve but at the same time, I still feel the UI is a bit minimal and lacking on a lot of features right now (TBF probably some of it is me getting used to it still). Some of this works in its favor tho.. like if I created a new account on reddit, I'd have to deal with all the karma bs again before I could even post to most subs. Here, this is my first post on this instance, and no problems AFAICT... which is really fucking awesome IMO. Other things, like how to show all communities sorted by # of subscribers or how I search for a specific phrase in a specific community (like "rootless docker" + "qbittorrent" in c/Piracy for instance), I am still a bit unclear if there is even a way to do that.
I don't see anything overtaking lemmy immediately. kbin is the next closest one I can think of that is open-source + federated and not controlled by a company and I think it is even less smooth than lemmy right now. There's mastodon but IMO that is more twitter alternative than reddit alternative.
But I guess if something came along that checked all the right boxes (foss, federated, markdown, long-form comments, more features, etc) then I would at least be open to considering it.
There's plenty of apps now and if you want a web app have you tried wefwef?
Update: I can now answer one of my own questions, in case anybody else was also puzzled.
how I search for a specific phrase in a specific community (like “rootless docker” + “qbittorrent” in c/Piracy for instance)
Mostly, I was confused bc I was on reddit too long and I was expecting a way to do this from within the community I would like to search through. You can still do it but you have to click on Communities from site header menu, then choose Comments (or you can pick Posts but then replies to posts will not be searched) , then under the Community dropdown search and select the one you want, last enter your search term(s) and click Search.
I probably need to go find some documentation and see if lemmy searches support more advanced stuff like AND / OR / negation / etc or if only simple searches are possible right now, but it's a start.
It's not about what it is today but what it can be. I agree that there are a bunch of problems, but the future does look bright.
yes, focused on Lemmy for now, its the best alternative
it will get updated and developed overtime, even if the devs went full political someone would just fork the project and we would still federate anyways, we have nothing to lose if we commit
The apps will dictate where people go. It's only natural
If I'm being honest, I can see myself switching pretty quickly. I'm still pretty new to all this Fediverse stuff and changes happen all the time.
The main thing that irks me about Lemmy right now is the UI and the latency. I've used Jerboa, and now I'm using Liftoff and I'm really not a fan of the UI. I was a Boost for Reddit user, so if Boost was somehow reworked for Lemmy, I'd be more than happy to use it (I'm not trying to demand this, just saying that's what I'd like to see in apps).
The other issue is latency. The dbzer0 instance is already pretty damn slow for me, but even lemmy.world takes so long for loading comments and posting is the most annoying.
Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.
But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)
It's still early but I wouldn't expect the community to suddenly move to something new/better in the very near future. People here are still getting used to Lemmy/Fediverse.
Personally I'm happy with how things are progressing but you're right, stuff like UI/UX needs more fine tuning.. I'd expect it to get better as things go on. Also keep in mind since everything is federated here you could technically still participate via any other software that is also federated to Lemmy (signing up to a Kbin instance would be the closest at the moment).
Is it me or is it kind of sad that we seem to enter an era of non-descriptive platform names?
Like, what is a Mastodon? Twitter was a cool name. Tweets on Twitter, that just sounded right. It's definitely not the name that caused the platforms downfall... Facebook, MySpace, Reddit, Snpachat, Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube - I like creative but descriptive names for platforms. Now we have Tiktok, Mastodon, Lemmy and stuff like that. Meh.
I mean, the fundamental platform is the fediverse, so there's that.
i do hope its here to stay, having to constantly switch platforms is a pain in the ass
I'm not committed to a fuck if something better come up i will move my shit to there that's it i am not a fandead of anything.
I'm not a fan of it. I have three separate accounts on lemmy servers. I don't like the separation of different servers that are happening and I feel like it's all a big mess. I know it can improve but so far I'm not impressed. I also agree with others that it is very slow in terms of performance.
Generally, you do not need multiple accounts on different lemmy servers. You can "use" the other servers with one account. And, that you have multiple different servers, is by design.
Or are you referring to defederation, when you are writing about "seperation"?
Why do you have 3 separate accounts? I have 4 accounts on 4 servers, but I'm pretty much using this one account for everything. I'm still checking those other accounts in case I got any mails, but I think this will be my only active account.
What...why? You only need one account. You have the ability to join, read, and post on any other federated "magazine". The only caveat is if a site decides to break their ties like beehaw.org did from Lemmy.world until the latter got their bot situation/login guardrails in place.
The easiest way IMO is to just subscribe to other communities(make sure you search 'all' communities instead of 'local'. )
If you're using a web browser(mobile or desktop) if you're looking for a specific community you can just append it to the end of your home url if the above solution isn't working for whatever reason but I wouldn't expect anyone would need to manually type out these urls.
Example:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/(community)@[instance] - this is not a working site just a reference
so the following links all end up on the same technology community on beehaw.org:
open me
https://beehaw.org/c/technology
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/technology@beehaw.org
The only confusing thing that I think may get people is if they create accounts on both Kevin and Lemmy and start getting confused by magazine vs collection(essentially subreddits or /r/ from reddit)
Also maybe, why does data such as upvotes, user's subscribed, upvotes/boosts look different on(for instance):
vs
It's the same posts and the same comments, you aren't missing out on anything . However the upvotes, views, and subscribers are all coming from lemmy.world specifically to https://beehaw.org/c/technology
You aren't seeing beehaw's upvotes and number of subscriber, but just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. This is why I'd urge for people to find one instance to call home. If you make accounts on multiple instances it's just going to cause confusion for no good reason.
I think there have been enough threads created on this but I hope this helps you out.
Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.
But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)
I'd move. I don't like how lemmy is setup.
then set up your own instance
I'd move to something else. This place is ugly to the eyes imo. I prefer the mesage board style over this.