1mo ago

This is awful mod behaviour...

I used to see this on Reddit, I'm disappointed this behaviour is also on Lemmy.

Users collecting mod status on multiple communities, and then using that power to mass-ban a single user from a bunch of communities.

Modlog show how incredibly trigger happy some mods can be. Minor transgressions, deserving to have their comment removed at least, but then banned from unrelated communities as a consequence. This will only get worse as users become supermods.

Edit: It seems this is how an instance ban is reported, by banning from any communities the user has participated in. Then perhaps it isn't all as bad as it seems.

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It's simple. Don't criticize China in any community hosted on Lemmy.ml 😂
- probably don't even post or interact with lemmy.ml. strip them of influence by simply disengaging from their squishy power
- So the Fediverse equivalent of being banned from /r/Pyongyang?
  
  lemmy.ml.
  
  You have been banned from /r/Pyongyang
- You're free to argue about that stuff, it just seems like a lot of Redditors are not used to dealing with any opposition. After all, your opinions aren't the ones being nuked off of mainstream social media!

Could it be an instance ban?
- This. This is how an instance ban shows up, as a series of bans on any community they were active in on that instance.
  
  Ah! Really!? Then that maybe what it is. I went looking through the modlog and kept thinking "again?" over and over as I saw similar entries. Okay, maybe it isn't as bad?
- In other situations, mass bans sometimes happen because it's easier. Moderators often use custom scripts they've written to ease the administration burden. Personally, I don't even provide a reason for bans, its just one more field to fill, and for the benefit of someone disruptive or acting in bad faith? Why bother.
  Moderators don't owe anyone anything. If you don't like a mod, it costs you nothing to spin up another community. Hell, if you do it on another instance, you can even have the same name, and with crosspost merging apparently coming to this corner of fedi, it makes even less difference.
  
  It's sensible to provide a reason for the bans because the community should be able to know when, why, and how you enforced the power they delegated to you. It isn't just for the one being banned.
  And mods do owe the community something. At the very least: transparency, safety, fairness, and reliability.

It's lemmy.ml...
Their mods don't do much, it was likely an admin banning them from everywhere.
It's incredibly common with .ml, and why people are better off blocking the whole instance
A lot of the small ones are like that. And a lot even use a bot to ban if someone isn't subscribed. So it's possible all you did was down ote a brain rot meme and now you're banned from all those places.
- I'm not banned (yet), it was something I saw in the modlog whilst checking something else.
  I didn't realise it was so common. Why are people so awful to one another :(

Lemmy.ml strikes again!

This user was banned for being anti-Semitic and telling people to kill themselves. Also, when you're instance-banned, you automatically get banned from the communities you were active in. The mod didn't manually ban them from all those communities. When you attempt to post to a community in an instance you're banned from that you weren't active in, the instance-ban means the post won't federate.
- Yeah .ml has its issues but this person is a good reason to ban. It's fair to ban someone this genuinely fucked up.
  
  Some instances pre-emptively ban users if they happen to have a history of malicious behaviour. Can't say I can blame the mods and admins for not wanting to put up with the user's behaviour and the barrage of reports that could follow. Sometimes it's less of a workload to just ban them than wait for their inevitable trolling.
  
  That's not the same person. Notice how the order of the community bans don't match up. Joey just wanted to sound like a hero again.

I didn't even need to read the instance name. Only "Rule 1, 2" was enough to know this was from .ml. The admins there behave pretty much the same as Reddit admins; always fucking enforcing hidden rules. The link Blaze posted should show well enough which is the hidden rule in question.
Note that this is clearly done by the admins, not by some power-tripping mod. For example, one of the communities listed there (SNOOcalypse) has been locked down for a whole year, and the only mod there is my old account. (In fact one of the reasons I locked that comm down was because I wasn't willing to play along this shit.)

https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
- Thanks, didn't realise it was a historic issue. Only just noticed.
  I guess I should expect to be banned from a bunch of communities for even mentioning it. It's so petty and shows how thin-skinned people can be. Shouldn't be mods if they can't perform the role objectively.
  
  lemmy.ml is a trap run by literal communists (who also happen to be the main developers of the lemmy software) it's basically like the Lion King scene "but what's that shadowy place?" "oh that's lemmy.ml, we don't go there"
  But the nice thing about federation is that even thought it's run by the developers, we don't have to participate there and they evidently don't want us "sheep" to participate there either so we can have a mutually beneficial relationship of not having anything to do with one another.

That person was banned for anti-semitism and various other trolling: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?userId=17758269 . And banning from each community is the current hack for how to also do instance bans(fixed already in main)
Creating public modlogs was almost pointless, because people just use screenshots instead of actual modlog links.
- I just learnt this in another comment. I didn't realise instance bans were reported like this.
  Re: screenshots -- this community rules require censored screenshots.
  
  No probs. It's always better to link the actual modlog, otherwise you have no idea why someone was banned.
- The account you linked is from lazysoci.al but the one in the screenshot is from lemmy.world. It looks like it's this one https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=3194530
  
  Ah. That person is telling people to kill themselves, so that ban also makes sense.

Notice how they are .ml comms.

Good i didn't join lemmy.ml

This has already been explained by others so I’ll ask a question in addendum, when you’re unbanned, are your comments reinstated?

its .ml
that means the user either said something not-nice about china or russia
or they implied america isnt 100% bad and has some redeeming features

average .ml moment

Pretty sure it was because that user said jizz
edit: just to clarify, i meant that it was because of the strict no nsfw rule that is in place, not that i necessarily agree with it
- I know which user you're talking about, however this screenshot was a different user a few hours before. Seems like it happens way more often than I realised.
  
  yeah that's basically how an instance ban works. since you're on a differrent instance with different rules, you might not be dealing with the same issues.
  you can check out powertrippinbastards for examples of mod power uses that you might not agree with, and if ever you disagree with how your instance handles modding, you can change it.

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