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'Arrest me': California's governor unfazed by threats of arrest from Trump administration official

www.nbcnews.com

Both Trump and his "border czar," Tom Homan, have said California officials could face arrest if they're perceived as impeding ICE operations.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back against threats of arrest by Trump administration officials, remaining defiant as he oversees clashes between law enforcement agents and protesters in response to immigration raids across Los Angeles while also managing an ongoing power struggle with the federal government.

In an interview for MSNBC with NBC News’ Jacob Soboroff, Newsom called Homan's bluff, urging him to "just get it over with" and move ahead with the arrest.

“He’s a tough guy. Why doesn’t he do that? He knows where to find me,” Newsom said. “That kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go."

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How exactly is Newsome impeding ICE?
They're talking about arresting teachers for protecting their kids. They are not talking about Newsome cuz he's sueing the government. But yeah, go and make this issue about your ego and presidential run bud.
- He’s not impeding anything, but Republicans love manufacturing an alternate reality that justifies their violent thugishness.

Gavin Newson kept California safe during the peak uncertain times of COVID.
Gavin Newson survived a recall that was initiated by the trump blowhards in Orange County and the Central Valley.
We do NOT NEED 2,000 national guards deployed to L.A. Trump WANTS to make things escalate, and 2,000 troops WILL make things escalate.
Your dipshit dictator is siccing military troops on citizens. This is war against citizens.
- He did some great things during the peak but, since, he's frequently been nothing but a corpo ghoul. Sabotaging efforts to break up convicted killer and "power company"^* PG&E. Supporting rate increases so that the board of convicted killer and "power company", PG&E didn't have to face any actual penalties for killing people. Adamantly opposing any wealth tax. Putting significant support behind RTO/quiet layoffs.
  EDIT: Forgot my own footnote.
  ^* "power company" here used in quotes because they seem more practiced in getting away with murdering people though negligence and avoiding consequences for knowingly contaminating water supplies with carcinogens.
  
  I was a supporter for a while, but the more I get to know him, the less I like him. He's just another Corporatist Republican-Lite Democrat, and those are the losers that got HitlerPig elected in the first place. If he becomes President, HitlerPig, or someone worse, will be back in office in 2032.
  I want the next Democratic president to be an aggressive, no apology, hard core reformer, who isn't afraid to stand up to Sociopathic Oligarchs and Traitors.

Trump’s "border czar," Tom Homan, warned Saturday that immigration operations and the presence of federal personnel would continue in the city despite criticism from Democratic leaders who've warned it could further escalate protests. He threatened arrest for anyone who obstructs the immigration enforcement effort, including Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass — though he acknowledged that neither yet had "crossed the line."
Cross the line, Gavin. Cross the line and we’ll believe it’s not an idle threat. Until then you’ll always be Patrick Bateman to me.
- The illegal deportations were the fucking line that was crossed. Put those fuckers on the defensive and don't let them abuse language like this.
- Let's see Stephan Miller's card...
  
  The tasteful thickness of it…oh my God it even has a swastika watermark.

One guy who's actively defying this orange turd and all the fucking tankies on here would rather shit on Gavin because he's not the perfect online liberal like they are.
You people are the fucking problem right now.
- The American left is engaged in a slow and unconscious suicide. Meanwhile, conservatives are fucking evil as fuck.
- He's thrown vulnerable people under the bus and has no principles other than what he thinks will help his career. Yeah, he's doing the right thing here, but let's not pretend he's good because he's doing the bare minimum
  We can work with him while recognizing he's not a true ally
  
  When someone is cooking a good meal, even if they are generally bad at cooking, shut up and let them cook.
- No. People pointing out corrupt politicians aren't the problem. Its those who cover for them and pretend like they are heros who are the problem.
  
  What cover have I given anyone? I'm calling out all the couch potato leftists who couldn't even get off the fucking couch to vote against fascists because of their bullshit purity tests.
- The acceptance of liberal fascism is how we got here. It's not how we get out.
  
  Liberal fascism doesn't fucking exist. Fascism is a right wing ideology you nutter.
  
  This is literally authoritarian rhetoric.
  
  No, the "well they're both corrupt/bad so fuck it" without acknowledging that bad/corrupt is a scale not a binary is how we got here.

Well, shit. There's a lot to not like about Newsom, but I can think of 100 democrat politicians that would have folded like wet Kleenex by now. He could be a lot more aggressive about this, but he's clearly trying to exhaust all the normal channels. Critical support for Gavin.
- Yeah I'm surprised he didn't offer to switch parties, GJ Gavvy

Get em Gavin

"That kind of bloviating is exhausting."
Bloviate - talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.
Instantly added to my lexicon. There's another word I've often used when I should have been using this one, because the other word (malapropism) isn't exactly what I am meaning a lot of the time but it was the closest thing to what I was trying to convey (someone talking out of their ass in a way that tries to sound intelligent when it isn't).
- I keep a message chain to myself for new words - here's my most recent:
  architectonics, antimonies, deracinated, vituperative, idempotent, moither, uxorious, voussoir, integumented, exuviated, entelechy.
  
  moither
  That's the opposite of foither! 😃
- If ya want another one for thine lexicon might I suggest gormless? It's when one lacks intelligence or vitality. You can insult someone's intelligence and their dick if you are clever enough.
- I hate the word so much because Bill O'Reilly used to constantly use it back in his hayday (early 2ks) so I associate it with him.
  
  I remember that and even as a teenager it drove me nuts because that is exactly what his entire news slot was ...him , bloviating. Fuck that guy

Don't think for a second Newsom is a hero just because he opposes Trump. He's a very corrupt individual.
- Last time we fought fascism we allied with lots of adversaries to take down the larger threat. I'm down for doing that again.
- I'll take a Trotsky over a Stalin any day. Besides, this is Hollywood shit. The gov of California is a relatively blanched position. It's a showpony job by design. Newsom has power here because everyone that has power in Sacramento and in the county system supports him. Everybody fucking despises Trump except the neonazis at this point.
- not nearly as bad but yeah, hea basicslly republicans from a decade ago cosplaying as a democrat, appeals to the california republicans, or like not appeals, calms them down enough or whatever
- Honestly, short of some miracle undoing this whole mess, this was a flavor of outcome I was quietly hoping for. At some point, politicians are going to realize - much like the president's base - that they're going to lose power unless they mount some kind of opposition. For the very worst ones out there, power is kind of their whole bag. Take it away and they get very angry; they may even do something about it. It's kind of the tacit driving force behind any "checks and balances" scheme: power-hungry bastards trying to out-power-hungry-bastard each other.
- What is it about important blue states, like California and New York, that keep voting for corrupt pieces of shit(Eric Adams)‽ Again and again¿ Like I'm an out and loud proud social democrat in probably the reddest state, but it gets exhausting trying to juxtapose that with trying to tell people how corrupt every single repuglican is.
  
  $0.02: good people know enough to not take the job, let alone run for it. It's expensive to run for office, doesn't pay enough, eats up your life, you're constantly advertising to stay employed, and your co-workers are all politicians. It's very much a "I offer myself as tribute" kind of a situation, even for extraordinary people.
  Meanwhile, a corrupt person knows that it's worth all the trouble if you convert political power into (illegal) money.
  
  Liberalism is a fascist ideology.

he's got a law degree, and passed bar, he's aware of what an enormous investment opportunity that level of civil rights violation would entail.

If I am a betting person, and if Trump doesn't arrest him sooner, I would bet that Newsom will run for president near 2028, and that is when Trump will have him arrested.
- Newsome will definitely run for president, and HitlerPig knows it, that's why he's going after him now.
  
  Alexei Navalny would advise Newsome to not get arrested easily. Fight these fascists at every turn.
- So are you? A betting person?
  
  In the case of Trump? No. The dude is unpredictable.

He's not perfect but Newsom's one of the few political figures resistance to the Trump regime can crystallize around. Yes I'm well aware he's the type of guy who'd like to find common ground with these assholes but he's at least willing to risk provoking Trump's goons into overextending themselves.

Just more TACO comments from wanna be bullies. These people would lose their teeth in a street fight. Then act like they are Rocky Balboa on state media Fox News. The reality is that they are pussies. Punch a bully and he never bothers you again.
- eh nothing stops a bully for long, punch them and itll be a week, month, or a year, eventually theyll push and test boundaries again and then go further, gotta disable the bullies
  
  Pride bricks are in season rn. 🏳️‍🌈

Hi all, I hope people hear this and the post is not hidden. This is an insecure system, and talking on here about things you want to or will do will be used by the regime.
Please take this as it is meant. I fully appreciate the anger and the pain you are all feeling, and you are totally right to fight, but you must fight smart.
DO NOT LET YOUR ANGER GET THE BEST OF YOU. If this goes the way it's looking like it might, direct fights with whatfever is left of the States' forces is suicide, and the good guys need all the boots on the ground you can muster.
There are many veterans of the war on terror who are literal experts on the tactics needed to win this; seek them out.
Assume all coms are monitored because they are. Look after each other, people.
A friend who knows the score.

This guy sucks soooooo much. I hate that he's probably going to use all this in a presidential bid.
It'll probably work. In the unlikely event we do have another election. I'll probably vote for him too. But he does suck when he's not taking advantage of a fat orange shitbag. Just remember that.

I look forward to Trump having this guy arrested shortly followed by Arnie coming out of retirement, tooling up, and taking the fight to the orange man. "I told you I'd be back!"

...and osculate my posterior!

Fash on fash political theater. Fuck these creeps.

Newsom is a complete coward lol, he is NOT resisting Trump meaningfully.
- I mean this is exactly what i would call resisting, but i agree he is a shithead.
  
  I can understand people being pissed at him since every Californian cop has been taking the national guard's side against the protesters so far
  
  A lot of people here are unable to accept that shitty people they hate can sometimes be right.
  
  If this is "resisting" then we're doomed.
  
  How is it resisting to say "arrest me"?
- Are you?
  
  Are you?

True Leftists are fun. They complain when you do, and they complain when you don't.
- Hi, actual leftist here.
  Is Newsom a garbage person, a slimy politician with no real core beliefs, who just tight rope walks a balance between the desires of his constituents, and his wealthy donors?
  Yes.
  Can garbage people actually do the right thing from time to time, be on the right side of an issue?
  Also yes.
  Keep it up Newsom, this is the kind of 'fuck you, make me!' energy/vibe/whatever we need to actually have a shot at resisting Trump from within the system, instead of basically being completely on our own.
  Maybe this will be a genuinely radicalizing experience for him.
  ...
  I would love for there to be an actual, formal, 'legitmate' body or group of people actually, effectively, resisting Trump, instead of wringing their hands and complaining about how powerless they are.
  Politics is the game of acquiring and wielding power.
  Sitting down and crying about how you don't know what to do is cucking yourself, and makes all your supporters into simps for a cuck.
  Sorry to use the colorful language, no kink-shaming if thats your thing in the bedroom, but that is how I feel, and being a simp in the context of politics and governance is... not the place for such behavior.
  If on the other hand we get some actually useful resistance from 'legitimate' officials, well then that means there might be a chance at 'legitimately' reaisting... but its going to mean a whole lot of libs are gonna have to learn how to actually play hardball the way Republicans have been the last 20 years... the way Gavin is here.
  
  Is Newsom a garbage person, a slimy politician with no real core beliefs, who just tight rope walks a balance between the desires of his constituents, and his wealthy donors?
  Yes
  Got any good news articles about this? I don’t see much about him except his podcast and headlines like these. But nothing ever dives into who he actually is and some might call him a “garbage person”.
- I missed the part where Newsome is actually impeding ICE.
  
  "Comfortable, wealthy neoliberal who does interviews with and works with fascists and is not personally targeted by them bravely says some macho stuff while his state's residents get disappeared and shot at." Is the actual headline here, but Gavin is hoping that a little grandstanding will let him make a presidential run later without actually doing anything for his constituents. He should be doing so, so much more than he is and yet so many people seem desperate for a win that they are willing to call this a victory rather than like, a potential signal that he might, potentially, care about his citizens a little, hypothetically.
- True leftists beat Mussolini into an unrecognizable piece of meat and hung him from his ankles
  
  None of the people posting on this site are 'true leftists' they're keyboard warriors.
- Hopefully these comments are the ones that will make it clear just how hard the "Democrats bad" narrative is being pushed on Lemmy.
  They want us to focus more on the Dems than the people actually implementing fascism. They want to manipulate the next election, and they're starting early. It will get worse.
  
  "Democrats bad narrative"
  Idk, the actions of the governor of the state where national guard and potentially military are being mobilized against Americans exercising their first amendment rights, seems kind of relevant to the whole thing.
  
  It's much more effective to fracture a group by pretending to be part of it than by leveling criticism from the outside.
  
  tactic has worked fucking incredibly so far. why stop now.
- Who are you talking about and how is it related to this story?
- Please go away.
  
  Username checks out.
- Anyone that uses the term 'leftist' is a fuckwit.
  
  You don't have to like the term, but you probably shouldn't describe everyone who uses a term you don't like as a "fuckwit."
  You may find this helpful when discussing US political differences on the left-hand side of the aisle: https://helpfulprofessor.com/leftist-vs-liberal/

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