epicspongee [they/them or he/him] @midwest.social

1y ago

I love Twitter rule

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Being on Twitter must be exhausting
- Id rather slam my penis in the door of a luxury sedan than ever go back on twitter.
  
  Tits! We can make that happen for you!
- it very much is
- @pizzaiolo @epicspongee I used to use Twitter all the time before it got to a point where I couldn’t stand it anymore, and I felt like a weight had been lifted off of me after I deleted the app.
- There’s a reason she’s got drug problems and Twitter is part of that reason

People are still using that dumpster of a platform?
- People who have a large following and magic emojis next to their name will keep using it because it gives them their validation. Twitter celebs are really in a sad state of existence
  
  Elon Musk is an actual Nazi and anyone who still uses twitter is sus imo
- I got so confused reading this, my brainy hurt :(

it's such an unfunny joke I had to read it three times to even understand what she was trying to say
- Some people are unfamiliar with Obama's drones.
  
  or the genocide in Yemen, or his role as the deporter in chief, or that he engineered the largest transfer of wealth from the Black community to capital interests, or, or, or
  
  Some people are. This particular people has absolutely no excuse for such ignorance lol
  
  Crazy, isn't it?
  During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.
  Source
- I didn’t post it because her joke was funny lol
  
  I figured, it just had me
- It’s a common liberal take on Obama.
  Cheeto man = loud, uncouth, vulgar.
  Your Excellency, Barack The Obama: classy, polite, trivial controversies, last ‘boring’ president
  
  😤
- It's pointing out hypocrisy. But people have forgotten that or are just ignorant? I can't see how you'd come to that conclusion unless you were very "both sides".
  
  I'm a level seven enlightened centrist. I wait in line at polling stations just so I can fill out a blank ballot.

Remember when Obama saw the largest transfer of wealth away from black US citizens to the wealthy in the history of the United States?
Remember when he set the precedent that it us cool to assassinate US citizens in the open (as opposed to covertly) without trial?
Honestly I get being mad at "Obama's biggest controversy was the mustard"
- Obama’s biggest controversy was the mustard
  That's not what she said lol. Sorry as a neurodivergent person I get that this tweet might be hard to read possibly, but she's being sarcastic here. Maybe in poor taste, but it's a joke. She's well-aware of the shit Obama's done and isn't a fan of him.
  
  She says that Obama was bad. Everyone understands she was being sarcastic. Since she was being sarcastic it means that she is trying to say that Obama wasn't bad (because that's how sarcasm works).
- Obama didn't start that, that was Clinton in
  
  Which one are you referring to?

I have an issue when the same people who were cheering during the Bush years, gave grudging acceptance at drone strikes during Obama, and were silent during the Trump years, pipe up and say drone strikes are bad now.
Progressives have been saying this the whole time.
Also, a reminder that Obama tried to write regs limiting the use of drone strikes at the end of his presidency. Trump promptly threw them out on entering.
- As always, when a Republican does something, it's good and just. When a Democrat does literally the same thing, they're the devil incarnate.
  
  Loyalty over principle.
- Drone strikes are the holy grail of the military-industrial complex. They are cheap to run meaning that the air force doesn't have to give them a huge budget yet consume precision bombs and missiles at a steady rate meaning that the weapon industry get a secure revenue stream. And they can be scaled up almost infinitely since there is no bad news coverage of wounded veterans or crying widows on us television.
- Also, a reminder that Obama tried to write regs limiting the use of drone strikes at the end of his presidency
  That doesn't sound good.

I mean. It definitely carries the implication that Obama has done very little wrong whether or not you intended it that way. Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or she thinks that the murderous actions he took were justified.
- Or she is just pandering to her liberal audience
  
  Since she basically stopped making content, I'm a little surprised she still has an audience. Like so many otherwise curiously influential and interesting people, she's doomed herself to drowning in the social media space when everyone would be better off (her most of all) if she just logged the fuck off.
- I think, still, it's a reflection of what the conservative media at the time was making a big deal about. It wasn't the drone strikes or war crimes, it was the tan suit that was run on Fox for several weeks.
  It's like they never gave a shit about civilian deaths. Ever.
  
  sure, but I'm not convinced the people making the jokes care any more about civilian deaths, either.
- Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or
  I don't think that that is a flaw she has is in question at this point tbh
- Studied Philosophy as a PhD. That's one of the biggest flaws a human could have.
  
  It's not really hard is it? "Yeah people are right about this." and then growing from it. I don't think I've ever seen that from her, not a single time. Everyone is always wrong except her, it is always the internet's fault, and she is perfect and right about everything.
  I have much more respect for people like Noah Samsen who has made mistakes with epic debatebros and just owned up to it like "Yep engaging with them was a mistake I shouldn't have done it and won't be in future". Just fucking learn from things ffs. Grow.

Such an annoying reckless behavior to publicly Call Out a community you're supposedly part of like this. Every time someone does this, I get a clear mental image of a dog licking its own ass. Just shut up, having random slapfights and compulsive arguing are childish zoomer traits
- Time for her to make another 4 hour video about how she was 1984'd into deleting a tweet.
  
  That would require her making a video

that joke is so overused i don't even think the libs over at r/politics finds it funny anymore
- I used to think it was funny just because it WAS absurd that Hannity (it was Hannity right?) made a big deal out of Obama ordering "fancy mustard" and therefor being unAmerican. I thought it was a good commentary on conservative media's weird tics. But once I noticed that libs were using it (and tan suit jokes) just as much to absolve Obama of having "real controversies" and not just making fun of Fox News, it lost its edge for me.
  ETA: Also its really corny of Contra to engage in such an overused joke, beyond how lib she's being its also just really gauche.
  
  She's actively regressing into a chud.
  
  Tan suit Dijon mustard
  was amusing until I realized how much of politics is theater. It was just too blatant this time, but so much of American news is only slightly more serious than Dijon mustard.
  
  It may be gauche, but it is certainly not de gauche
- Libs on /r/politics only make jokes about the Ork-shaped Slavic Brainpan and how many indictments Trump is currently under.

Its great that the Obama post got her dunked on by Ethereal Bisexual
- Obama punching the air right now and cursing Marx
  
  Uhhh let me date here

Is contra going lib again?
- She's always been lib, sadly. I still love her content tho! But her political takes are def a little ehh
  
  Yeah, I like have a soft spot for her because she helped show me that there was actually a left beyond voting for labour every now and again, and like she was the only trans rep young me really had, but like her politics are cringe af -
  is way cooler imo
  
  Can you elaborate? Love her content, wonder if I’m missing anything about her I’m not aware of.
- She went fully lib like two or three years ago and has not had even a trace of being a socialist since.
- Again? I imagine you don’t recover after hanging out with Hillary Clinton. Maybe unless you’re
  
  last I heard, he relapsed into Marianne Williamson electoralism. get well soon, Chairman Daou
- High off the fumes of patreon dosh she had a podcast episode with
- Always has been
- Going? I think the least lib she ever got was making two videos about capitalism being bad and then concluding it with this statement:
  You know maybe we should do something in the meantime. Uhh so I dunno, I guess vote Labour, tweet radically, try to eat more vegetables, uhh… Try not to be manipulated into waging war against other downtrodden people, and can we please not hand more power to the absolute worst dingbats our society has on offer.

twitter is really good at making words and phrases meaningless through extreme hyperbole rule
- Can I ask whats being made meaningless here? I hope you don't mean "war criminal". Because drone bombing a wedding is definitely a war crime.
  Maybe you mean Contra's joke though idk lol
- Oh you are saying we shouldn't communicate and instead rely on aesthetics to signal each other? Thats literally fascism but you do you.

can someone please explain why the word rule appears in titles so often
- its a
  thing from /r/196
  
  Ok, so it looks like stormfront is a website that promotes white pride. It sounds like there might have been a subreddit at some point based on that stormfront image.
  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stormfront
  And /r/196 is a leftist meme posting subreddit that is trans friendly.
  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=r%2F196
  I'm using non-reddit links because I don't want to direct traffic to reddit.
  Can you help me find a source that shows, stormfront, a white pride website, influenced the 196 rule please? This seems like an important point to learn more about. I've been googling, but I haven't found any connection yet.
- It's a redditor habit.

What an absolute dumpsterfire of a comment section

Natalie should know better. But also... the really nasty shit under Obama was heavily under-reported and only ever seemed to penetrate media in a select few circuits. Casually tossing off a "What even did Obama do that was so bad?" is almost forgivable if you're not a terminally online 30-year-old who makes hour long YouTube videos about politics, history, and culture.
- Am I reading this wrong? I assume Natalie is making a joke about how people under report Obama's nasty shits
  
  I think she's joking about how people over-report his trivial shit. But it can be read as blithely ignoring the monstrous crimes Obama did commit while in office, because it echoes a lot of the liberal apologia of the administration that amounted to "The worst thing Obama ever did was wear a tan suit".
  
  You're reading it wrong, she's stating you can't make a moral equivalence between Obama and, say, Trump or something because supposedly the worst things obama did were silly.
- For me, it's someone that savvy casually dropping a "both sides" comment. If I didn't know better I'd assume it was bait. Its hard to imagine that level of cluelessness.

Some people really need to fucking log off and find a lesbian to marry
- Yes.

Observation selection bias is an easy one the GOP likes to take advantage of. Eg: not testing for covid to show covid went down.
Also: drone strike civilian casualties.
- Not testing for covid to show it went down is the current strategy of the Biden admin
  
  Lol. Look at this galaxy brain equivicating there start of a pandemic with an endemic with vaccine.
  I mean, obviously the covid hospital occupancy rates would be identical if the actual case rate was the same.
  Oh wait...
  https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations
  What's that? Less then 10k vs over 140k? Definitely the exact same situation! /s
  Don't trip over yourself making excuses now
  
  Yeah because it's too late now. Covid has become just another disease spreading around now. If people actually wore masks and got vaccinated we could have eradicated it but now it's like the flu where it changes to quickly to manage.
  Which was the whole point of the quarantine and masks and social distancing but god forbid Sarah doesn't hang with her besties and John doesn't get to party on the weekends
- Also: drone strike civilian casualties.
  When did they change how they count civilian casualties? I heard it was under Obama's administration, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
  
  There is quite the back and forth between Democrats pushing for accountability and the GOP pushing against.
  From Wikipedia, which has all the references one might need:
  "On July 1, 2016, President Barack Obama signed an executive order requiring annual accounting of civilian and enemy casualties in U.S. drone strikes outside war zones ("Areas Outside of Active Hostilities"), and setting a deadline of May 1 each year for the release of such report. However, soon after taking office, President Donald Trump designated large areas in Yemen and Somalia to be "areas of active hostilities," thus exempting them from disclosure. The Trump administration also ignored the 2017 and 2018 deadlines for an annual accounting, and on March 6, 2019, Trump issued an order revoking the requirement. "
  The executive order:
  https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2017-title3-vol1/pdf/CFR-2017-title3-vol1-eo13732.pdf
  Trump recinding the order:
  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/trump-civilian-casualties-rule-revoked.html
  Plus some other dumb shit by Trump:
  "During the Obama administration, proposed U.S. drone strikes in locations outside active war zones (i.e., in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia) required high-level approval. The Obama administration process for approving drone strikes in such locations featured centralized, high-level oversight, based on intelligence about individuals suspected of terrorism activity. Obama's approval was required for every strike in Yemen and Somalia, as well as "the more complex and risky strikes in Pakistan" (about one-third of the total as of 2012), and insisted on deciding whether to approve a strike unless the CIA had a "near certainty" that no civilian deaths would result.
  ...
  October 2017, Trump abolished the Obama-era approval system in favor of a looser, decentralized approach, which gave the military and CIA officials the discretion to decide to launch drone strikes against targets without White House approval. "
  All sorts of references corroborating those summary:
  https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/
  The short version is: Obama demanded accountability and his approval. Which did not exist before and was revoked after. Hence, the different counts of casualties is not representative of an actually difference. Only representative of the GOP being shit.

I am thankful that I touch grass enough to not know what any of this means

why do contras posts always end up this way lmao
- It's her curse.

Well, that escalated quickly

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