Uyghur Workers Are Moved to Factories Across China to Supply Global Brands

It was wrong when the West did it, and it's wrong when China does it. And it's wrong that it's a fact that this statement is somehow controversial.
- America is gearing up to put illegals, brown people, women who don't want kids/women who believe in women's right to choose, and the LGBTQ+ in slave labor camps.
  
  Yep. And their action doesn't justify or excuse China's or vice versa. It's bad regardless who's doing it.
  
  A lot of the immigrant labor has been at least slave-like for decades too. Under constant threat of deportation on their "employer's" whim. Fairly common for "employers" to take documented worker's documentation to hold them hostage. Reports of some farmers housing and working workers fenced-in, having them working under gunpoint. Some farmers have been caught buying and selling immigrants amongst each-other. I remember a report of a meatpacking plant calling ICE on its own employees to have them deported after they started asking for better treatment, then just hiring more immigrants to replace them. Hell, I even remember near where I grew up, you could see the shed-like shacks from the road on one farm where they kept the migrant workers; no electricity, didn't look like they had any running water either.
  
  ie. American prison
  
  Gearing up? El Salvador is taking them in already.
- this statement is somehow controversial.
  Here? No. On ml? Enjoy your ban you westoid scum!

capitalists gonna capitalist. nothing surprising here.
- Those damn capitalists in charge of checks notes the Chinese Communist Party!
  
  Wait til someone explains the DPRK to you...
  
  There's nothing functionally communist about the government of China.
  
  Those damn democrats in charge of the checks notes the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!
  
  You might be surprised to discover they aren’t all that communist
  
  The CCP acts like just because the state owns major enterprises then the workers - through the state - own the means of production. That doesn't hold up when the state does not adequately represent the will of the workers. Never is this contradiction more clear than when the Chinese state suppresses workers' attempts to organize on their own terms.
  China is communist in the same way that the US is democratic, which is to say that it's a sham to keep up appearances that is suspended when convenient for the few who hold real power.
  
  And Google can't do evil! It's on their motto!
  
  "Democratic people's republic of North Korea"
  
  username checks out
  
  No politician has ever lied in the history of ever.

The problem is, it is very hard to trust the same people who are actively committing genocide live in front of the world then tell you “this is not a genocide”
It is also hard to believe nytimes who lied about Iraq war to advance white house agenda.
People who dont care about live on the internet genocide should keep their opinion about the world to themselves
- They mean "live on the internet" as in happening in real time AKA live streamed.

If there is any mention of Adrian Zenz in any but negative light, whatever you are reading is dogshit or you haven't read enough to see it being a joke. Right wing nutjob puppeteering whatever is the best for the CIA, unironically how can they not get a new guy for the job?
Also the whole point is that Uyghur workers went to work somewhere else in a programming made specifically for that? This is just plain contract work, I don't see any issue here?
Overall, deeply unserious. Baffling how they can't find someone new for the job
- Americans just like to stroke their ego by demonizing China. Also shows americans ability to consider perspectives outside their own.

- Dude, you seem to have literally zero comments in your history with a positive score. Why even bother to keep writing comments? Do you just enjoy trolling?

I disagree with many of Trump's policies, but his idea for tariff's on Chinese goods is possibly a good one. There's no way to get this stuff out of the supply chain. I'm terrified some of the things I bought from China are made with slave labor.
How do I get slave labor out of my life?
Up to 14 hours a day? That probably means 80 hours a week. I do 40 and that's difficult. 80... With no choice... So awful!
I don't want to be a part of that.
- Trump just wants to bring the same to America. The problem for him is not slave labor, it's that America is not doing enough of it to be able to compete with China.
- And how exactly is it better if the same goods are made by American slaves in American factories? Trump is literally on the side of those who want to get rid of regulations, minimum wages and pretty much everything else that protects workers and consumers.
- Scare for slave labour while your tax money fund a genocide!
  Thats crazy
  
  Also, if you have any ideas how to opt out of funding genocide, please let me know.
  Taxes are taken out of my paycheck. I do not know how to ask my employer to reduce my taxes to zero.
  Even if i leave the country, which would be hard to do as a somewhat poor person, the government would still imprison me if i don't pay them.
  I could become just a begger or someone who works illegally to avoid the taint.
  I've also thought of just checking out of this world because it's so terrible.
  I'm not really sure what you think I should do instead. Is there a box to check to easily opt out of laboring for a government that thinks it owns me, that I didn't ask to be a part of?
  Just becauze I think slave labor is awful and think a tax on Chinese goods to help stop slave labor is good doesn't mean that I support what is going on in Gaza. This planet is awful sometimes. I am mostly poor. What should I do?
  I recognize it's a genocide at this point and war crimes are occurring. I am not a powerful or rich person. What should I do?
  
  Check my post history before you presume my beliefs about the situation in gaza.

Y'know what? I don't care. Maybe it's happening, even in the dramatic worst-case way it's portrayed here, but is that the biggest/only story in China? It feels sort of credibility-stretching that a country of 1.4 billion people and a top-two global economy is entirely cantilevered around the idea of oppressing a tiny minority in the rural corner of the country. I'm fairly certain there are at least nine people in China who can go an entire workday without contemplating how to wipe the Uighyurs off the map. Maybe as many as twelve!
The US is no longer in any sort of moral leadership position to point fingers on human rights, if not for the last few decades, then certainly in its El Salvador phase. The only reason Western media remotely give a damn here is because they're desperate to slap an asterisk next to the growth and real economic advancement of a country that promises to outpace them imminently.
- So many words for “no u” whataboutism is so tired
  
  Clearly too tired to read the whole post. Or are you too tired to deal with the reality of Americas foreign policy?
- I really don't think that's it. Slavery is disgusting, even if China has made great technological advacements or done great things. It's completely fucking gross and many people want nothing to do with slavery. This isn't about the US, it's about slavery being bad.

having jobs isnt bad
- One of the biggest propaganda wins the ruling class ever had was to portray having a job as something good that we should be thankful for.
  Having an income is good, having a job is merely the cost of having an income. Having a job against your will is literally slavery/forced labour.
  
  i agree with that sentiment, but that isnt any different from the rest of the planet
- Your half truths have no power here.
  Having a job close to your family in a place you know and want to live AND work with salary, benefits and options to switch is not bad.
  
  agreed, but most people don't have that lol, especially when they originally live away from urban centers. the fuck you are talking about. you guys are the ones coming out with half truths and exaggerations.

New York is the de facto capital city of a literal slave empire who kidnaps people to foreign death camps so I'm thrilled to see what they're reporting about China
- You know it's possible for multiple evils to exist, right? And sometimes they are also adversaries. Yes, the U.S. is evil. Yes, China is evil. Yes, Russia is evil. So in and so forth.
  
  Classic case of whataboutism, it was a common "technique" very often used by the far-right in the 2015 US presidential elections
  
  You know it’s possible for multiple evils to exist, right?
  What would you say about a newspaper that spread salacious rumors about a foreign country's nuclear weapons program, months before the newspaper's domestic government launched a full scale military invasion? What about a newspaper notorious for promoting narratives that have contributed to homophobia, racism, and moral panics aimed at religious minorities? Or a newspaper that had damning information about domestic leadership and deliberately covered it up until the end of an election cycle? A newspaper that regularly promoted the interests of its corporate sponsors ahead of the well-being of its readership? One that promoted misinformation in the middle of a pandemic? Or one that shamelessly promoted financial con-men in the middle of their most brazen acts of fraud?
  Is that evil?
  Yes, the U.S. is evil. Yes, China is evil.
  But we have to side with the US, because it is the lesser of two evils! So trust the NYT, uncritically. Again. In this new drum-beat towards war.
- "but what about..."
  
  "It's suspicious that well known sink-pisser Larry is accusing Bob of pissing in the sink" is not whataboutism.
  
  This isn't a counterargument, it's a thought-terminating cliche
- It is? I'd like to read about that

- If China were less opaque and oppressive about how they went about things. Perhaps there would be reason to believe them. I know specific people who have been ditectly impacted by this. Your indoctrination doesn't change that fact. It's bad when anyone does it. Not just china. But it's still bad when China does it.
- Conveniently forgetting about the Xinjiang Papers, huh? Found an ableist
- It's super suspect that western media suddenly cares about the rights of muslims in China, especially after they've spent there lay 20 years vilifying muslims in every other country in the world.
  It's also not outside of the realm of possibility that China is dealing with religious extremism internally and sent interested in getting non Chinese opinions about the best way to do it.
  
  The New York Times has been covering Uyghur issues since 2001.
- I thought world being a psyop was just an inside joke but i suppose its true just openly posting western propaganda like this UGH
  
  Its not so much a psyop as a majority of americans actually believe this shit. World is a huge circle jerk so thats why it happens.
  
  It's no better than fucking reddit, shameful