Say it ain't so

Everything in the Marvel Universe is just wizards. Nobody is coding. Nobody is engineering. Nobody is doing anything more technical than "Hit him with a bigger rock".
Tony is just a wizard doing wizard shit in stylized techno-pastiche.

Well, he had to be, programming his own AI basically by himself.

From what I remember he seem to mostly use it to change parameters and intiate things with voice commands. At least in the movies.

To be fair, if our AI was as capable as his AI vibe coding would be viable.

I'm still a fan of the theory that the only thing he was good at was creating was ai
- Falls apart due to cave situation. No jarvis for first suit or mini arc reactor
- But he wasn't. At least in the movie version, he and Banner had failed a few times, maybe more we didn't see on screen. Something happened when Tony wasn't there that sparked Ultron to become aware and catch Jarvis off guard. I'd give him credit for getting it 99% of the way there, same with Vision, but he didn't make that final jump, it happened on its own.
  And Jarvis wasn't AGI. Seems like it to us, but since Ultron was apparently the big moment of A(G)I in the MCU even with Jarvis being around all that time, he was just a very flexible and even self-aware scripting that would never do something on his own accord, only following Tony's orders. I think even Ultron catches on to that in the brilliant few seconds of waking and realization with his "why do you call him Sir?"
- In the MCU? He hand built multiple suits, and designed all of the others himself. It even states that he designed his first engine when he was like 4 I think in the first movie. He was worse at creating AI than his actual mechanical and electrical engineering skills, as portrayed in the films. Comics are of course a separate matter.
- In the MCU yea that tracks.
- You mean the one that turned into Ultron?
- And he was “good at it” because he could afford the hardware/menial labor to train the initial AI models.

when you code an actual AI like Jarvis, it's ok to vibe code with it for the rest of your days

A vibe programmer that built a palm-sized fusion reactor in a cave over the course of 3 months with a single companion? Perfectly respectable to me. And he probably made his own AI too :)
I've always imagined peak programming as building up from low level languages, putting on some layers of abstraction and automatization written by yourself, and end up writing some trivial commands to produce very interesting outputs... Who knows? Maybe throwing around some holograms and voice-commands asking for nonsense. It doesn't get much more vibey than that.
Programming in vim and emacs does look like that lol.
- A vibe programmer that built a palm-sized fusion reactor in a cave over the course of 3 months with a single companion
  With a box o scraps!
  
  He leaves out that the "box of scraps" was essentially a complete selection of all the parts used by his company to make their weapons. He was basically given a couple each of every Lego set ever (already assembled !) and then tore them apart to make one big thing. It's impressive, but it's not like he reinvented modern technology from scratch. I'd call that "vibe engineering" at worst.
- So what i get out of this is if you make your own homemade llm then we can call it "vibe" coding. Otherwise, if your just farting around on sone corporate data mining llm then it's fart coding?

Have I misunderstood the term vibe coder? I thought it meant people who weren't good at coding. I thought Stark's whole thing was that he's a genius. Is he notoriously bad at software but good with hardware or something?
- vibe coding is when you let an llm write almost all your code, taking its output at face value. tony stark in the films just vaguely describes to his computer what he wants and trusts that it does the right thing.
  
  I think the underlying understanding is that Tony wrote the AI he’s asking to write the code. So, in effect, the AI he built is a form of scripting. Rather than spending his time churning out code, the AI will churn out code that’s up to his standard because he wrote the AI.
- From my understanding a vibe coder is someone who builds software using mainly AI generated code. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a bad coder, but often the code generated by AI is just hard to process at this scale and people will have no clue what exactly is going on in their project.
  
  if they build software using mainly ai generated code, then they are a bad coder
  
  A vibe coder is someone who codes by vibe, rather than by knowledge or practice. It's literally a term to describe bad coders. Yes, it is about the use of AI, but only in the context of using that AI for programming without having any idea of what the AI is actually doing.
- Javis, his AI assistant, did all the work.
  
  Except that he made Jarvis. Meaning he understands perfectly his tool's abilities and limitations... Which vibe coders don't.
  
  I feel like you're really forgetting the lore. Do you not remember the iconic "TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BULD THIS IN A CAVE. WITH A BIX OF SCRAPS." He built a compact arc reactor in a cave. The other man's reply as to why he couldn't do it in a lab with more scientists and equipment was "I'm not Tony Stark."
  https://youtu.be/9foB2z_OVHc

It's fiction, so it'll have differences from reality.
In speulative fiction, the only rule is to make it interesting for whoever consuming it.

The more we talk about things the greater chance it becomes the norm. What's this tony? Never heard of him. Vibe coding? Never heard of it and I don't think I would be interested. Moving on.

This meme made me feel better about myself. Been copy pasting from Stack overflow for more than a decade, vibe coding was a real step up for me.
Not quite there yet, still waiting on the holographic AI hardware design. Coming soon I hear.