7mo ago

Community Notes strikes again

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Accepting a statue is not the same at all as accepting a 747 jet.
- Especially if his plan is to keep it for personal use, rather than as federal property
- President Cleveland can only equally enjoy the Statue of Liberty as much as anyone else. Trump would enjoy that plane infinitely more than the rest of us.
  
  If the plane crashes and takes Trump with it, the rest of us would enjoy it infinitely more.
  
  I bet he totally got special access to go up to the crown or torch whenever he wanted.
  Checkmate!

France was (and I'm using past tense here because relations are strained due to......gestures generally) one of USA's first allies. They provided political, navel, and monetary assistance during the revolutionary war. They were one of the first counties to acknowledge us as an independent country once the war was over.
The statue was commissioned as a gift to the US, not to the president. It doesn't have any listening equipment and it sits as a tourist attraction, along with information about our long standing alliance.
It wasn't a fucking bribe!!!!!
- Something that provides a whole lot of modern context is realizing that America was France’s early “Proxy war”. They wanted to give Britain a hard time, and so they gave colonials weapons to do it. Both of us won out from that exchange.
  The key part here is that France didn’t keep an iron stranglehold of us. It was enough to win us our freedom that we would want to be their buddies without being forced. Fun story for anyone who insists the US wants to control the Ukrainian government.
  
  Pfft, I don't want to control the Ukrainian government.
  I just want Russia to suffer for their crimes.
  We are not the same.
  
  Both of us won out from that exchange.
  You might want to look into what happened to the French government and its leadership shortly after funding that little proxy war. Let me give you a quick rundown, because I enjoy history:
  The American Revolution was incredibly expensive and put France into an extreme financial crisis. Of course, the court's extravagent personal spending didn't help things (and made for better revolutionary propaganda), but in reality it was about 6% of total government expenditure, while loan payments, mostly from the war, represented around 50%. Even with very high taxes, it was impossible to balance the budget. A report from March 1788 estimated a deficit of 20% of expenditures, which could only be made up by more borrowing
  This financial crisis led to the king calling the Estates General, something that hadn't been done in hundreds of years, to bring representatives of the three estates (nobility, clergy, and everyone else) together to work out a solution. When an agreement could not be reached, the representatives of the third estate left the Estates General and declared that they were creating a "National Assembly," which claimed to represent the popular democratic will, and started work on a new constitution. The royal family ended up declared traitors and got their heads chopped off. And the rest is history. (My source for this is an old book I own called The Coming of the French Revolution by Georges Lefebvre)
  So, dumping a bunch of money on a proxy war in a bid to raise their geopolitical status and undermine their rival didn't really work out so well for France. They were so focused on playing geopolitics against Britain, but by failing to address declining conditions at home, they created a much more dangerous domestic threat which brought about the government's downfall.
- I think autocorrect got you, unless there was a secret bellybutton supply we don't know about?
  
  Belly button lint was used as a cartridge if paper wasn't available.
  
  You ever been on a ship from that era? If you’re over 5’ tall you’ll spend a lot of time bent over staring at your navel
  
  a secret bellybutton supply
  Aye, the Navel Reserve.
  
  I would like some navel assistance.
- Technically, if the Qatari plane gets instated as property of Air Force One operations then it belongs to the US and not the president. It would have been better to lean on the fact that Saudi Arabia is a direct sponsor to many groups and nations that the USA lists as adversaries.

I don't think Grover Cleveland got a lot of personal use out of a 305 foot statue.
- Its ridiculous for you to say something so dumb, you have no concept of how many miles he put on that statue during the course of his presidency.
  
  Ah, that explains her expression.
  
  This is true! There no way to know exactly how many miles grover put out in that thing.
- Well he collected all the money the statue collects from yours and such right, right.
  
  wat

Come to think of it, I'm a little surprised that Musk hasn't pulled the feature yet.
- He said not long ago that they were looking at it as a feature because it consistently kept correcting him and calling him out lol. It was one of his (many) dumb ass tweets where he just said "investigating" or "looking into this" or some crap. I would not be surprised at all if it's changed or removed very shortly.
  
  I'd also accept that nobody left they're knows how to remove it
- Most likely because if he would, it would remove one of the last barriers Twitter has to being sanctioned even harder by eg. the EU.

big difference in accepting a gift on behalf of your countrymen and accepting a gift in opposition of your countrymen.

Ann Coulter is an odd bird. She seems to be running interference for Trump on this one. Sometimes she's not afraid to buck Trumpism. I know she's awful, but if she could pick a lane, I'd appreciate it.
- She has a lane and it is called "What is in the best interest of Ann Coulter right now?"

Though if a congressional vote was held on the Qatari golden airliner, it’d pass along party lines, as no Republicans want to incur the wrath of the King. A few may hem and haw and express how troubled they are by the, ahem, highly irregular nature of this deal, but would ultimately wave it through. (Bonus: a handful of Democrats may vote to approve, out of an instinctual desire to reach across the aisle and build bridges or whatever.)
- Bonus: a handful of Democrats may vote to approve, out of an instinctual desire to ~~reach across the aisle and build bridges or whatever~~ lick boot
- TBH, from a political standpoint, if this went through all the regular channels and procedures then I would at least be supportive of dropping the tariffs on SA. It's nice to have a middle eastern nation still willing to oppose Russia after all of this.

And also the statue is not owned by Grover and it's not in his home
- I am also pretty sure Grover Cleveland didn't refer to France as "historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level" less than 10 years before accepting the gift from them.
  
  Hahhaa I didn't even consider that.

What an unpleasant surprise. Id totally forgotten Ann Coulter existed.
- not so fun fact: Ann Coulter wanted to sleep with my dad when he was in college, and once invited him to her house for the weekend, but he turned her down. I thank my lucky stars everyday that Ann Coulter isn't my mom.
  
  Maybe if your dad had baby trapped her she'd never have had career success though
  
  lol. Dodged a bullet for sure. Its really amazing that people like Coulter do as well as they do in life. We live in bizarro world.

And that's how we ended up with a Cleveland Tower in Paris and Grove-a-Lago just outside Nice.

Which one of you guys went down into the crypt and woke Coulter up for this?
- Haha, I was coming here to ask who gave her a blood meal. If 80s movies taught me anything, it was some suspiciously mature looking "teens" that went to party in her tomb.

Imagine not having a job, just sitting all day, and still getting shit wrong. Being BTFO'd by the community notes, on X of all places, is embarrassing for a conservative, or whatever she is.
- A lot of these "grifters" or "commentators" and stuff aren't really there to interpret news and stuff. They're there to tell certain groups of people what to think.
  Like pass talking points to them or assuage their doubts about what's really happening to them. Accuracy and stuff is an afterthought because they only need to worry about the next news cycle which used to be months but is now days.
- Kellyanne Conway: “I have two friends, who both — well, one is Ann Coulter. She started dating her security guard probably ten years ago because she couldn’t see anybody else.”
  She’s a sad loser.

What a disingenuous cunt.

Fuck Ann coulter with a klan poster
- c/uncommoninsults@...?

that fuckin date format tho

I don't believe Grover took it with him when he left, either.

I'll be darned, apparently Ann Coulter still exists and there's still somebody who thinks she deserves attention.

She just needs to sit down

I wonder if it was a Trojan statue, but the exit got blocked a tree or something, and there’s a few dead Frenchmen inside
- You can tour the inside and go up to the flame though
  Your joke simply isn't factually accurate!

You mean people can't just say whatever they want on Twitter anymore! They're actually going to get fact checked!
- Yep. The year is 2016 and we've all decided honesty in the media is important.

Because giving a gift to the whole country, for its help in knowing CK NG the Nazis out of theirs, is exactly the same as giving a personal gift to one person, a Nazi, with strings attached.
- It was actually given as a tribute to America from France for ending slavery, the idea was conceived in France right after the civil war, as respect for passing the 13th amendment.
  We never should have ended reconstruction...

I thought this notch anti trump she back on maga again? These people flip flop every day

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