Firefox Forever
Firefox Forever
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Firefox Forever
“A republic, if you can keep it.”
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it would be really nice if US v Chrome were to force google to quit it. in terms of Firefox/Mozilla, it would likely be a net positive as it would force then to rethink what they so.
Mozilla does tons of superfluous crap. And I do mean crap. Mozilla should refocus on specifically making Firefox a good browser instead of all the other junk.
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While I do agree that their focus should absolutely be on the browser, I do actually really like that they offer a paid Wireguard-based VPN with endpoints in dozens of countries. I think that makes sense for them, given their mission and everything, and actually gives them a revenue source.
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If Mozilla loses the Google revenue, it'll have to do more other stuff if it's to have any hope of being able to subsidise Firefox development though.
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Can't say I'm deep in this space, but I think there's a lot of sentiment towards going more lean with operations and aiming for direct donation toward Firefox development (which I don't believe is presently an option) which seemingly, if Mozilla narrowed to their core (Firefox, MDN), the community would likely show heavy support. I have my doubts it would fully cover the bill in a sustainable way, but I at least think that's one of the main sentiments.
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Personally I hope firefox dies as fast as possible so we see some focus on good alternatives.
Gecko is not a good platform, there is a reason why people who use geckoview eventually all migrate away from it, the most recent example I can think of is wolvic, which hasn't replaced geckoview yet, but does have the version 1.0 of a chromium release now.
The sooner we get real alternatives to chromium and stop pretending that gecko is one the better. Currently servo is progressing really fast, has good APIs and usability for both a full desktop browser and embedded usecases (but still very immature).
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Yes. Mozilla has let firefox rot. Firefox can't even do tasks like render gradients properly (examples of such issue https://play.tailwindcss.com/9hekptcy9b https://codepen.io/art-solopov/pen/VYwwdBK. and refuse to implement stuff like webusb despite the fact that it can be done in privacy friendly ways.
I don't think firefox is a lost cause, but I do think mozilla is a lost cause. I have little hope that mozilla will right the ship, but sometimes things happen that do give me hope.
I do think gecko is quite frankly a bad platform, there is indeed a reason why so many things use blink/chromium as a base and not gecko, is it possible to make gecko into a suitable alternative? sure, but mozilla hasn't gotten even remotely close.
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I see this sentiment sometimes, but just like with the US Federal government, everyone thinks that what everyone else is working on is superfluous.
It's easy to say generally "there's all this wasted money".
Yeah? Where?
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2024/
I really am curious. I'm not a fan of AI, so I would agree that those seem superfluous -- but at the same time, the AI based image summarizer actually sounds cool - and good for accessibility. The translation service is VERY useful, and it is amazing that it runs locally.
So yeah, I'm curious. What is junk?
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off the top of my head,
- Mozilla VPN
- Mozilla Pocket
- Llama file (and all the other AI BS like Solo)
- Didthis was just recently shut down
and there were other serfvices that I can't remember right now. And then there is all the money they redirect everywhere else for advocacy and other stuff that I don't care at all about. If I donate to mozilla, I want to donate to firefox, not some random junk projects.
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What would "selling Chrome" even entail? The vast majority of Chrome's source code is free and open source software, i.e. it has no owners. Does the US government want Google's developers of the Chromium codebase to work on another company's payroll instead? Do they want Google to be prohibited from distributing a browser based on the Chromium codebase? Have they given any of this any thought at all?
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Does the US government want Google’s developers of the Chromium codebase to work on another company’s payroll instead?
Probably. The point is that google can't have any direct control of the browser as there's a conflict of interest between google's ad and other business and how web is developing. Take manifest v3 for example. Blocking content blockers directly benefits google's ad-business. Also removing support for third party cookies etc benefits google's ad-business while hampering others.
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Until Servo is ready. I have some high hopes for that one
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Especially since it's built using Rust (which Mozilla created, and laid off all of the developers).
Would be sort of poetic
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Yes, but we're yelling years and years into the future, if ever, so let's keep our eyes on the ball in the meantime.
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servo is an absolute gem, easy to contribute to, easy to work on, devs are super helpful, compiling doesn't take ages nor does it kill my SSD. an absolute gem.
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Go donate to Mozilla right now!
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Tbf, Mozilla donations don't go to Firefox.
Firefox is maintained by the Mozilla Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. While Firefox does produce revenue — chiefly through search partnerships — this earned income is largely reinvested back into the Corporation. The Mozilla Foundation’s education and advocacy efforts, which span several continents and reach millions of people, are supported by philanthropic donations. - Source
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It always struck me as odd that there is no way to give to firefox given that anybody can give to thunderbird directly.
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