Cuz baby, I'm an anarchist
Cuz baby, I'm an anarchist
Cuz baby, I'm an anarchist
For me it's both, I guess?
Before the bullshit threshold I'm calmly reading what the liberal says, and calmly explaining stuff like:
But as the liberal keeps babbling, and enters the bullshit threshold, my attitude suddenly flips to something like "aaaah, cut off the crap! I already explained this, dammit. Do you need to be spoonfed basic [reading comprehension | reasoning]???"
I don't typically use the word "bootlicker" in English, but in Portuguese I do use "pelego" (kind of the same thing) a fair bit.
Ooh, I like that image. I have a friend who would love that graph — do you know who I should credit if I share it?
Covering my edge with some off color comedy a la Robert Evans to get people on my side.
If you think you can actually radicalise liberals you probably haven't tried talking to them during an election year.
It's much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is.
"It's much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is."
This is super interesting to me, because it simultaneously challenges my assumptions while making intuitive sense. I don't have any experience trying to de-extremify a fascist, but what you describe feels plausible
There's a good reason why overtly fascist regimes rely on much, much more overt and direct forms of censorship than liberal ones - it is far easier to throw a spanner into the logic machinery.
The problem with liberals is that liberal propaganda starts making more and more sense the higher up in the working class' class structure you go - a well-to-do lawyer from an upper-working-class family is going to be far more invested in the capitalist status quo than a hot-dog salesperson who is struggling to pay the rent. The more invested somebody is in the status quo, the more their logic will shield them from critiques of said status quo. Where you sit is where you stand... like the German quote goes.
There's a distinct class thing going on here which we on the left has completely ignored - you can just hear it in the way liberals talk about people lower down the economic pecking order. Just see how upper-middle class folks talk about the "hillbillies" and "inbreds" that (supposedly) all voted for Trump.
Every fascist is a fallen comrade the capitalists got to first with the wrong solution?
Horseshoe brainlessness aside, there are certainly quite a lot of the opposite, Marxist/anarchist scholars in America who ended up swerving hard right as they aged under Reaganism. It's pretty weird to me.
Every fascist is a fallen comrade the capitalists got to first with the wrong solution?
Not every one... there are lots of utterly irredeemable people in the fascist rank-and-file. And there's no point in trying to differentiate which is which when they are marching down the street.
There is one thing that we on the left needs to take cogniscance of. The (so-called) "liberal democracies" we exist under only allows for the existence of two distinct ideologies - liberalism and fascism. It is only logical that when the one fails, people will attempt the other.
This was on full display during the last election. Genocide is apparently okay now. Long as a black woman or senile old man enables it.
Idiotic comments like this continuing to be made will never make sense. How can you be this stupid but also on the left
I dunno, kinda feels to me that liberalism has lost so the polite thing to do would be to give them a dose of reality that could very well save their lives