the whole fediverse is wholesome ❤

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People keep making these memes, yet I keep seeing plenty of vitriol in the comments
- Aight bro, you wanted it that way!
  COME HERE FOR A HUG!
- I think it depends on the instance, I find lots of vitriol comments on lemmy.world.
  
  I noticed OP is a beehaw user, so they're probably shielded from a lot of the active vitriol we see here.
- Just don't ask what lemmy app is the best. Trust me.
  
  Literally had someone tell me, unless the lemmy police were actively trying to take my app away, I have no right to complain about the elitism, lol.

Don't tell em about the Sync discussions
- Yeah, there's plenty of other examples of toxicity, but the Sync discussions are the easiest to point to example.
  Ultimately, Lemmy has most of the same issues with condescension, toxicity, and pointless argument as reddit did
- Or the announcement of lemmy.world admins preemptively defederating from Hexbear.
  Or the announcement of lemmy.world admins NOT preemptively defederating from Threads.
  Or when there's politics involved.

Idk man... I've seen some truly passive aggressive comments sometimes. To the point where one could say 'I don't like your tone buddy'. Let's not glorify and patronize communities one over the other.
- Oh, you've seen truly passive aggressive comments have you?!? Name every one.
- True. It's still a good aspiration. Maybe we can get there.

People on lemmy are taking the blue pill and thinking that the fediverse is wholesome, the fediverse is many things (mostly positive) but saying that we've got no assholes is a lie (OP did say that "the whole fediverse is wholesome ❤")
- I just blocked Lemmygrad and hexbear and haven't had any issues at all with jerks since
  
  Those two and exploding heads are trash.
  
  That was definitely a good start, based on my own experience. Just keep an eye out for the popular degenerates from there and be ready to block them as well. Blocking their community doesn't keep them out of the comment sections else where. Especially politics.

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- Lmao here we go! I’ve always loved the variations of this copypasta.

I actually saw someone change their mind in a heated thread. It was amazing.
- What open mindedness does to a mf
  
  It used to happen on Reddit.
  Then the Trumpening...
- Yeah, on Reddit, especially in bigger communities, if you admitted you were wrong about something (or not at least technically correct in some way), you'd get downvoted and had asshats commenting how dumb you are, so they'd get upvoted for that.
  Here, there's less people to dunk on you, and I imagine, also just fewer kids, who need the validation from dunking and aren't yet as self-reflected...

I think the difference is that it's possible to actually engage with the community on Lemmy.
On Reddit if I see something I have a story or thought on there are already 5000+ comments. The only people responding to me are trolls and those with nothing to do but look for a fight.
On lemmy there might be 50 comments in 10 threads. Conversation can actually happen.
It's the difference between chatting at a party and shouting at a concert.

I just joined Lemmy and I have already seen a comment from a tankie telling all Americans to "rot and die" in this same community. So no, it's not all wholesome.
- Bonus points if the tankie was American themselves.
  
  And double bonus points with sprinkles on top of it was a bot or shill pretending to be an American.
  
  extra points if the user was from lemmygrad
- If it helps, it only ever seems to be the tankies, which are progressively becoming the minority. I'm sure more dicks will show up in future waves, maybe, but...I'm kinda seeing the point of just the lowest possible entry hurdles.
  Actually, hold on, tumblr was talking about ActivityPub a few months ago, so if they ever actually do that and do it functionally, that will change the culture pretty substantially. Much more weeb/sociopolitical. I'm happily fucking out of the politics here by choice.
  
  Yeah, anyone who makes a comment similar to that I always assume they're a tankie. They are extremely easy to identify based on their comments.
  
  It is funny seeing tankies come face to face with the real world and their comment ratings sink like the Titanic though.
- The good thing about Lemmy it depends of the instance.

I saw a Lemmy user give 'benefit of the doubt' responses for seemingly curt comments, and then original commenter thanks them instead of feeling attacked. Bizarre to me. I feel like that happened on Reddit more often at some point, even for most non-specific communities, but I haven't seen it since.
- That's really sweet. As someone younger I never really saw that online. Maybe we can bring it back.
- The ol' Fediverse Switcharoo.

This has not been my experience
- Same. Almost every single argument ends with personal insults. At least on reddit people tried to avoid those because karma was such a big deal. Here nobody cares so they shit on each other whenever they disagree.

That's simply not true lol

Shang-Chi is making some good points
- I’m pretty sure that’s Ken. He’ll beach you off in a heartbeat. Right here, right now.
- Shang-chi chooses Lemmy, confirmed.

Wait for it...
- Hey, fuck you buddy! You can't tell me what to wait for!
  
  Fuck you, for fucking buddy, while you are not waiting for it.

Shang Chi is a true leader here

Meanwhile there are girl boring guy quirky memes all over this community. Casual sexism is what's wholesome.
- I've never seen one, but I'm new.
  Spotted a decent number of dog whistles on lemmy.world tho
  
  dog whistles?

Rose tinted glasses.

There are fewer kids and fewer people on the right on this platform. So anyone near the center gets treated like dog water. You just dont see many.

probably because social networks (including reddit) tend to destroy themselves (even without external help, they just get stagnant and boring) once they get too big?

I guess coz the communities are smaller they are easy to moderate !

Much of this appearance is due to absurd modding unfortunately. Removing any comments that the mods disagree with so they can have their echo chamber is a good way to give the appearance of a happy and supportive place while actually being the opposite.
Reading the mod logs is an exercise in frustration in a lot of communities here, especially on certain instances.

So far, ive seen it not like this for sync threads, as well as very pro/anti topics on communism/america
- True. Lemmy users are just as toxic as redditors.
  It's almost like they're the same people...