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Trump Signs Executive Orders to Militarize Police, Punish Sanctuary Cities and Refugees

www.democracynow.org Trump Signs Executive Orders to Militarize Police, Punish Sanctuary Cities and Refugees

President Trump has signed three more executive orders, further cracking down on the rights of immigrants and asylum seekers. One order seeks to compile a list of so-called sanctuary cities that refuse to cooperate with Trump’s mass deportation policies. A second order further militarizes local poli...

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I have some gloves-off shit I need to get off my mind and I feel the time and place for it is now because I’m very angry:
So… non voters, remember when we were telling everyone that would listen to “vote blue no matter who? Remember that? Of course you do- you threw that shit back at us like it was a god damned grenade. Remember that?
Yeah, well…. THIS is why we were saying that.
You see, we all saw this shit coming. Which is why we were saying to plug your fucking noses and just vote. Hell.., We even tried to reason with you- suggesting that-
“You’re not voting FOR Harris, you’re voting AGAINST fascism!”
You didn’t listen.
Your “…but, they’re doing a genocide!” was so deeply embedded via your little edgelord wind-tunnels, that most of you began to see it as an argument to win, instead of a point to be made-
Instead of doing anything substantial to help end it.
Well. Your point was definitely made. We all have heard you loud and clear. You collectively and VERY loudly agreed that you would be fine with the outcome either way- since genocide was going to be happening no matter who you voted for, right?
I do have to ask though…
Are you still fine with your choice? How about the memory of you, sitting on your asses and laughing at all the people rushing to voting booths in-between work and picking their kids up from daycare… How is that sitting with you? All those jokes and inflammatory remarks you hurled at the people who tried their fucking best to stop this with the only thing they have- their vote. The people, who tried to protect your sorry asses that couldn’t be bothered to even do the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM asked to protect our democracy.
I ask you… are those jokes still funny?
Is there any chance that any of you want to walk back all those accusations you made about everyone being sheep? What about those smug and arrogant jabs about how both sides are the same? About how democrats and republicans are somehow working together…
care to issue a statement here?
Because I’m pretty damned certain that NONE of this shit would be happening right now if you had listened to us when we told you that this was going to happen.
When HE fucking told you this would happen.
And while very few people here were ever in favor of the genocide in Palestine- much to the disagreement of the few that are around that are STILL arguing against this point- we knew and know- that the pain we face at home must be resolved before we can be of any aid in the pain endured by others in theirs… Especially when most of you couldn’t have even pointed to any of those homes on a map a year ago and a half ago.
It should be noted that this is not in any way to lay the entirety of blame at the feet of the stay-at-home/its-someone-else’s-problem protestors, but the numbers are in, and while your combined lack of effort might not make up the entirety of the ninety one million registered voters that stayed home, it’s a fair guess that between you and the ones that voted third party-
We could have avoided this.
Roughly four to five million votes. That’s all we needed. Just four to five million of you to have listened. But your arrogance, your fucking entitlement- wouldn’t let this happen.
So now here we are. With this shit. This tyrant king and his pet tech-gremlin, stripping away our rights hour by hour, day by day. And while dealing with this shit, I as an American, have to carry on hour by hour, day by day- being tossed into the same bucked with you.
I have to shoulder the blame right along side you. And it’s not fucking fair. I did my part. I voted. I canvased, I shouted from the fucking rooftops.
But I’ll digress…
I sincerely hope that high road you thought you were taking lands you all right to where it seems the rest of us are going….
Because no one deserves it more.
- I have so many idiot friends who said "I'm not voting for Harris cause of Israel". I'm betting that line was a plant by the Republicans or Putin. but it stuck. and my friends bought it hook line and sinker.
  
  Yep. They sure as shit did.
  
  line was a plant
  Didn't need to be, the whole point of the Israel support was to sow the division. It was designed to be a no-win scenario on the left, orchestrated by the right, and the dino's. The defense contractors win, there's a stock angle to play and the collapse of support for the left.
  The truth is, the left is not listening. They haven't been for a long time. But not voting left wasn't about to change any of that. Half the left is owned by the right. This takeover wasn't overnight, it was over decades. Even if we managed to squeek in Harris, it would only have been another 4-8 years and we'd be back here.
  Unless something drastic happens, we will stay a fascist dictatorship.
  
  Or, here’s the apparently radical third option… do what the voters want and reel Bibi/Givir/Smotrich in, or at the very least stop giving Israel outright political cover. “Israel gets to do war crimes and/or genocide… and you pay for it” was a uni-party stance in the 2024 cycle, and it’s fucking infuriating. I expect the right to back Israel reflexively, but I did NOT expect to see y’all pull the mental gymnastics make yourselves be okay with it. And then have the gall to shout down and bully away criticism of the party’s complicity.
  If your candidate can mostly be summed up as “less shit” then that damning sales pitch to get the ‘apolitical normie’ vote out to win elections s. Kamala barely stood tall on any firm policy - let along a coherent platform, didn’t distance herself sufficiently from Biden, and didn’t respond to voters’ legitimate economic anxieties. At that point a demonstrable lies become the sound bites differentiating Trump from Kamala.
  
  Just people with principles. This "non voters cost us the election" is a nonsense division tactic. Stop going after people for voting their conscience and morals. You're just making it easier for the fascists.
  Not all non voters are equal thanks to our shitty election system. Swing states, ill give you that one. Those folks contributed but are still not the reason he won. Some dude in Michigan who sat out is not the same as a dude in Tennessee. One matters much more than the other.
  I choked back my vomit (yet again) to participate in a process I abhor and yet again it didnt amount to shit. Maybe work on getting that extra third of the electorate instead of kneecapping a portion who will show up if you're reasonable because you need them. And no, i don't believe supporting genocide is reasonable.
- I held my nose and voted for Kamala, but 2016, 2020, and 2024 should have been cakewalks for Dems but they refuse to win the easy races by picking the worst candidates, sure 2020 fell for Dems but that wasn't for lack of trying to lose. The Democrat party keeps putting their fingers on the scale for the losing option in the primaries.
  
  Here nor there. 2024 should have been a no-brainer. And from the results…
  It truly was.
- Well said brother.
- Am Not an American . Are the Democrats now doing something to be more appealing in the future, or they just rely on Trump to keep being awful?
  
  At the moment, our fiercest Democrat just voted for the new law to allow The government to censor anything on the internet they don't like. I think it's fair to say it's not going well.
  
  The Democrats are probably praying that Trump lives till he's 1000 years old, otherwise they would need to do something more than not being Ttump
  
  I think this is hard for people from other countries to understand. Our Democrats are not an opposition party. We don't have that concept in our system. I'll admit I was naive to it before Trump started Trumping. Even after the first Trump I was thinking, "Well, that was fucking dumb. Glad we found our sanity again." And I was wrong.
  I wouldn't have been able to articulate this before. I credit my time on Lemmy for some of it. But in reality you can't explain any of this shit show UNLESS you accept that our entire political system is now structured to serve the rich at the expense of the peasants. Universal healthcare is a no brainer. Infrastructure like rail and renewables is a no brainer. Affordable childcare and reasonable wages is a fucking no brainer. UNLESS the incentives for those in power are not aligned with the good of the people.
  Democrats don't care that they're not in power, as long as the establishment keeps getting paid.
  Now, of course, there can be those like AOC and Sanders who buck that trend. Leaders with those types of values do tend toward the Democratic party. But those are the exceptions. And they can't save us.
- 90 million voters don't know just how fucking good they have it. They think America is America because it's America. America is America because the people before us were willing to die for human rights.
- I didn't even have to hold my nose for Kamala. She seemed fine. Nothing amazing but fine, just like Biden.
  But then again I don't care about the pressing issues like how someone laughs.
  
  Yeah, it’s all relative. There are plenty of issues with Kamala, and I think most of us here on Lemmy would prefer somebody considerably more progressive. However, we in the US live in a country full of people who just actively chose Donald fucking Trump, and every single one of them lived through his first term. Even if they didn’t live in the US at the time, they heard all about it if they cared to listen.
  But hey, let’s see the bright side. Maybe accelerating straight into crazy town will see us wrap back to the next period of peace and democracy more quickly.
  
  I hear she wore a tan suit just like Obama
- I was one of those people right there with you, screaming at the non voters to vote.
  Given what the Election Truth Alliance, and The Voice of San Diego have uncovered, I don't think it would have mattered. They used every single method to steal the election that they could.
  https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
  https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs
  https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0
  https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
  
  And yet... crickets... thank you for these resources
- 2024 was the second highest turnout of any election on record. This isn't the fault of non voters.
  Democrats should have been begging voters to turn out, offering to give them anything they wanted to avoid Trump. Instead they actively refused the one thing voters were demanding while using trump almost like a threat
  I'm so tired of this 'democrats can't fail, only be failed' apologia from liberals. As things continue getting worse it will only become harder for democrats to win anything, especially if they continue refusing what voters are asking for while blaming them for the fascism dems are collaborating with.
  Better get your boots laced because sitting on your ass and whining about non-voters won't protect you, we're all in this shit now because democrats couldn't get themselves to challenge Israel's genocide
  
  The Democratic Party doesn't give a fuck about America turning into a fascist nightmare. Never have, never will. Most of them would be happy to play puppet opposition if it meant that the checks would keep coming.
  
  Enjoying Trump?
- I voted liberal in Canada specifically because the conservatives were becoming more MAGA adjacent. I don't like the libs much, but I will have them over PP's Trump ass kissing any day.
- If you want me to vote, run candidates that represent my interests.
  Stop telling the progressives to 'fall in line.' Start telling it to the neo-liberals.
  
  Exhibit A
- Why are you okay with your fellow Americans being unrepresented in the voting booth?
  Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? People should be free to vote for those they deem best, while still counting their vote against those they don't want in office.
  We don't need to wait for a miracle from congress. How we vote us controlled at the state level. Alaska has already done away with FPTP voting. Alaskan Republicans were so upset that Ranked Choice voting kept Sarah Palin out of office they offered up a referendum to go back to FPTP voting. The people of Alaska voted to keep it. Other republican controlled states are passing legislation to outlaw any voting system other then First-past-the-post voting
  Why do you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer? Do you support democracy? Or do you get off on telling people how to vote?
- If the dems wanted to win, Bernie would have been our candidate in 2016, not Hillary. If the dems weren’t working for the same people the reps are, Harris would have taken over as president when it was CLEAR that Biden was not fit to lead anymore. If the dems wanted to prevent fascism, they would have had an election to decide who the candidate will be, not just stick Harris in and tell us to vote for her.
  
  'Well if you didn't want fascism you should have given me what I want!'
  That sounds like MAGA talk.
- I hope they have the life they voted for.
  
  Same.
- Nicely put. And on an ozma post to boot.
- Except Palestinian babies. They deserve what they get.
  —blue maga
  
  I mean, they're dead now.
  So mission accomplished?
  Brown American babies are up to join them next.
- the non-voters either dint bother voter, or said it doesnt affect them right now.
- Wanted to add you make ml's look completely sane, given how much you post about them.
  
  Exhibit A
- The genocide stuff(yes we know its deplorable) was a wedge issue grift started and perpetuated by russia
  
  Yeah, funny how after election day, genocide stopped being the #1 voting issue here, but that said, there were a handful of useless idiots who actually bought into the rooskie psyop, and you occasionally see their pathetic attempts to justify their choices up to today.
- #resistance #liberal
  Because no one deserves it more.
  Truly the most evil demographic of people, non-voters.
- When you are done on your soapbox, maybe talk about what can be done instead of who you blame.
  
  The bed is made, all we have left to do now is lie in it.
  Moving forward, the best thing that can happen from this is to ensure that those that caused it see the damage they helped create so that if we ever have the opportunity again, they’ll have learned from it.
  And I’ll be on this soapbox until I feel like I’ve said my fucking peace.
  Block me.
  
  i agree with rhoeri, but you make an excellent point. the past is the past. we can learn from our mistakes when we have a future to look forward to.

A second order further militarizes local police departments, while providing legal resources to officers accused of abuses; it also seeks to undo federal consent decrees for departments that have committed civil rights abuses and seeks to punish local officials who “unlawfully prohibit law enforcement officers from carrying out duties.”
That’s not militarization, it’s promoting lawlessness and removing any remaining accountability.
- Seattle PD literally had to be partially taken over by the federal government because it was so corrupt and would not curb its officers… this is going to be VERY problematic in Seattle and surrounding areas.
  
  By definition the federal government will return Seattle PD back into what it was, but with federal backing and technical support.
  I'm in a smaller city and even our local PD has two apcs. This is a nightmare.
- Have you not wondered why they keep trying to get the military involved? It's because they think the military is above the law and can just shoot anyone and do what they want.

A third executive order requires professional truck drivers to be proficient in English.
Higher requirements than the office of president.

Welcome to the police state, y'all

Militarize the police
It wasn't yet? US police has fucking tanks and mraps, it is already militarized, just without the training and restraint
- Clearly they need cybertrucks and Hugo Boss uniforms

So.....those of you who have lived though things like this, realistically what can an individual do?
Im talking beyond voting. Stock up on things? Get to know all my neighbors?
Because of an earlier Executive order, ICE (and related law enforcement) no longer needs to have a warrant. Now we are talking about militarizing local police forces. What happens if my family and I get disappeared?
- Many Germans were wondering the same thing nearly a hundred years ago.
  Some of them decided to move while they still had the chance. You could say it’s traditional to move across the ocean if your country becomes a totalitarian dictatorship. The other options aren’t that nice though. Once the system falls apart you could be judged for just going with the flow.
  
  Where can Americans even go? It’s not like immigrating is easy, most of us can’t afford it and Western Europe is no guarantee considering vlad is breathing down their neck
  
  No country is going to be welcoming to refugees from a shithole country like America, and our notorious reputation for arrogance isn't going to work on our favor.
  If you have a lot of money, or have an in-demand skill, perhaps they'll take you, but any American in a new country is going to face the same difficulties that immigrants in America face - discrimination, crime, exploitation, difficulty in finding jobs, bigotry, etc.
  Better to stay in America and fight back.
- Organize. Organize. And organize.
  Not speaking from experience, but if history has taught us anything, the best course of action is practicing mutual aid. Talk to locals. And arm yourselves.

The governors have to allow it. The federal government cannot mobilize the military in a state unless the governor of that state allows it. Posse Comitatus, if Trump attempts to send in the military against the governors wishes, we are talking civil war levels of federal vs state's rights. I hope state militias are ready to defend themselves.
- We'll see what happens with the new yes men in place. However, there was a DoD wide email that went out when he first started snatching people (though some didn't get it for some reason). It stated:
  Think long and hard before assisting other agencies outside the DoD. If your actions are deemed to be against your oath, you could be investigated and actions taken against you. Remember, you serve the constitution of the United States. Not the president.
  Wa state has just passed a law stating that other state's national guard, cannot enter our borders to take any actions. I would bet that that would include military personnel stationed in state.
- What consequences for breaking the laws that enforce rules like those have have been applied so far to this administration?
- Knowing Texas, Abbott will roll out the red carpet for this. Maybe I need to move to California or Illinois to get a governor that won’t bend over.
  
  Hell, Abbot and Paxton probably called Trump and directly suggested it. Fuck Texas.
- if the governors don't allow it. ICE could arrest them per E.O.
  
  ICE would have to battle the governor's security. ICE doesn't have the stones to go up against people who aren't essentially terrified and helpless.
- $100 he declares martial law in those cities.

Building a corrupt police state one EO at a time.
- Always fucking has been.

I am going to short on my American stocks for the next four years. Trump won't want to step down at the end of his term and when that happens, there will be chaos.
- I dumped all my us stocks as soon as Trump was getting warmed up, I won't be going back for some years irrespective of perceived returns potential
  
  Same, I just wanted to get out of the US market. It's not even about how the stocks perform or about making money. Even if a good opportunity to buy presents itself in the future I will never buy US stocks as long as they are sinking deeper into fascism.
  
  I getting rid of my bonds and stocks, aside from a token $1,000. I will leave that in, since I hope hyperinflation to make that paltry amount reach the account's cap within five years. No idea if that hyperinflated excess would actually be useful, but...well, who knows what is a good choice, if you can't buy physical properties right now?
  The rest of my savings are being transmuted into Euros. I have no idea how to get gold at a fair price, and I am aligned with democracy, so I figure money affiliated with Europe would be a good choice for me. Partially in case if I need to flee the Trump Regime, but also because Europe has an protective ocean and many different countries to prevent an outright crash when economies start breaking. I will almost certainly lose buying power, but probably won't get wiped out by America's self-disassembly.
  
  I'm holding no stocks or crypto. I've got a few hundred of bonds I probably ought to sell. I liquidated my 401k and IRA a couple months back. Big penalty, no regrets.

And the police, like the little lapdogs they are, will happily stomp on people’s rights for a chance to cosplay war
- What did you expect? They've been doing exactly that for their whole history.

Holy fucking shit... 1000$ for an asylum claim? And 3500$ for children. This is monstrous. I am an immigrant and naturalized citizen to Canada and I never had to pay that much legal fees for immigration and citizenship.
- The cruelty is the point. In fascism, empathy is seen as a sign of weakness and emasculation.

not a person of color to be seen for miles and miles of this fucking picture. until later when these pale pink fucks are turned loose against anyone not them.
easily led shit bird white christian dog shit eating idiots allowed this while swearing they'd never allow it to happen.
- My first reaction when seeing the pic: “look at all them rednecks!”
  
  Lookit all them black hats!
  
  Don't sully mine kin with thine comparison. These fuckwads are white trash, feed them to the Joshua trees.
- lol. that one christian downvoted you.
  fuck you christians. we're coming for you once this shit is over.

I saw the picture and thought "Blazing Saddles"! Now I'm even sadder that I live in a farce country.
- The sheriff is near!
  
  I sure don't see no black sheriff.

If you don't have a gun, it's time to get one and learn how to use it.
...also how to carry safely. Don't be that guy.

I have a buddy who told me this was awesome. This same buddy dog walked Clinton's crime bill from sea to shining sea back in the 90s. Are they stupid or is it me? Anyway I pointed out the similarities and he got mad at me.

Absolutely disgraceful. Y'all are cooked.

I thought for a moment he invited the village people to the White House….

guns

🤔

Never vote for another fucking establishment democrat ever again.
They always fucking lie and say they can't do anything, then a republican comes into office and does EVERYTHING.
Fuck everyone who voted against Bernie in the primaries.
- Upset with Democrats for following the rules and blame them when Republicans break the law? We want all parties to follow the rules, not more politicians commiting crime to get their way.
  
  Rules? The democrats talk about having their hands tied and they can't do shit, and only float ideas around. Ideas that never materialize. The Republicans then claim the dems are dictators and do as they please and all the chaos is from their ideas that were never implemented. You know the green new deal and defund the police? Nothing of the green new deal ever happened, but the Republicans acted as if everything was fully enact. And police funding actually soared during their administrations, but Republicans act like all police forces were gutted (remember the cowardly police action at Uvalde? They claim it was the police defunding that caused it when the Uvalde PD's funding was never touched).
  I sometimes wished we lived in the fantasy world Republican propagandists say we live in. If we did, ironically none of the fascists we see online or on TV would be around since they would all be conveniently 'disappeared'.

The afghan refugees can fuck off. Only the terps should have been allowed refuge. And they have to be checked.
Police already have swat teams. Maybe if people obey the law, they won't have to worry about MRAPs rolling down their streets.
Maybe the civilians should have those tools instead. Cause the citizens are supposed to keep the government in check, not the other way around.
But the left wing citizens are right. We should depend on the government for our safety and provide us with goods and services. They'd never lie to us. Burning down establishments and destroying property will show the right wing citizens to have different beliefs!!

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