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Canada should move towards integration with Europe instead of the U.S.

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Canada should move towards integration with Europe instead of the U.S. | CCPA

Trump warned he will impose additional tariffs on the European Union and Canada if they band together to “do economic harm” against the United States.

Get @#$%ed, Trump. Good read. Short but detailed about how partnered we are already and what our next priorities should be

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It’s time to part ways with the toxic US.
- https://imgur.com/gallery/bugs-bunny-sawing-off-us-from-canada-x0hZLvF
  
  Trump deserves nada.

No thanks.
We have enough right-wingers in Europe already.
- So, when you generalize canada in your mind right-wingers is what comes to mind? Or just the govt?
  
  Almost 45% of our voting population are voting for the Conservatives. That’s a lot of people who desperately want to be the 51st state and live under authoritarianism and fascism.
  Why they don’t just move there is beyond me. I would gladly see every single Conservative voter move to the America they want us to be. Canada don’t need them or their kind.

If we write off the US what does that do to our standard of living?
Assuming pipelines are obviously orders of magnitude more efficient than shipping by tanker. It also then still requires a pipeline to the east coast as a first step, which we cant get built due to Quebec, who ironically import all their energy from the US. All these costs and we then have to compete with countries on that continent who can build pipelines to Europe.
Given our small population we are the 4th largest exporter of oil and our loonie essentially tracks oil prices, hence it makes up such a large component of our standard of living. This idea we can pivot seems silly at first glance, but I'd like a differing opinions if one exists.
- Maybe if we are so economically dependent on a finite substance that damages every part of the planet it touches, we should think of changing the priorities of our economy. Quebec is great at producing energy with its hydroelectric plants generating about 1/3 of all electricity generated in Canada. Quebec is also decent at saving energy being only the 8th largest energy use per capita of the provinces.
  It is just wrong to claim Quebec imports all its energy from the US when Quebec actually exports a lot of electricity to the US while importing fossil fuels. Quebec could be far more energy independent if it focused on electrifying more stuff, the opposite is true for fossil fuels in Quebec.
- Given your comment history, I doubt it - and definitely not a representing one.

Wrong.
Canada should join BRICS
- Nah, those countries that are behind that are authoritarians.
  As expected from a lemmy.ml comment...
  
  Authoritarians? You mean glorious communists! /s
  
  Hungary is in the EU, but they're white so it doesn't bother you.
- Care to explain that a bit? I'm not that familiar with BRICS beyond the first paragraph of its Wiki page
  
  There's a few BRICS member and partner countries in the Western hemisphere already: Brazil, Bolivia, and Cuba. In addition to the current members, the US is pissing all over its partners in Latin America and I think we can expect even more countries to join. If the US really is declining, Canada has to think about who its partners in the Western hemisphere are going to be.

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