What do we call ourselves?
Recently I wanted to refer to the general populace of the divisions by zero, but it occurred to me we don't have a good shorthand for it,. I.e. like one talks about "lemmings" or "redditors". We could use something for members of lemmy.dbzer0.com.
Ideas?
One thought I had
m@tes
mate which is A) Pirate-coded B) Non-genderedAhoy m@tey!
I like m@tes. I would want to stick with the pirate theme and in lots of the world, "mate" is a friend.
Love the idea of assuming we're all on the same side. Because we are.
Then the circled a is a good reminder.
This is solid stuff, db0.
Good one m@te
I love it
Except for the fact that I read it as user@domain
How about b@ts, as in "bats" referring to many things, among them:
I like it!
Technically I think it should be M4735 or M4T35 in 1337/L33T, but that is nowhere near as readable for most folks.
Deez Naughts
Leech my seed!
... im sorry, rofl
If only i can add this as an instance tagline 😔
A division by zero is incalculable. On computers, this is sometimes represented by a special value NaN, which stands for "Not a number".
So we could be NaNs? Although a few Anglo countries use Nan to refer to a grandmother.
Another benefit: NaN implies a kind of freedom. To quote from the cult 60's show The Prisoner: "I am not a number, I am a free man"
... I proposed this as well, and another thing NaN is quite close to is... Naan bread, lol.
Basically a kind of flatbread, usually associated with India, sort of kind of like pita bread.
Its pronounced like... Non, at least the way I pronounce Non, as a PNW dialect English native speaker, not like Nan, as in Nanna, or other similar words to refer to a grandmother, or sometimes mother, different vowel sound.
that would be so fucking rad
Maybe pirates or mates, since piracy is one of our core philosophies here. And our other ones also align with that similarly by being things that are rejected by current norm much like pirates were rejected by the current society at the time. I don't know maybe it's too obvious or boring.
Divs seems short and snappy.
This is the only one here that doesn't make me cringe
Nullheads, zeronauts, diverrs?
Dunno, not creative
I think the first two are... well they got more flair, more pizzazz than my suggestions!
Maybe you could ... go from diverrs to like... webdivers, or some flaired up spelling of that?
More of an old school / stereotypical cyberpunk way of saying you're doing a big deep dive into the net to find useful info, webdivers or netdivers.
For the outside the instance, something from the instance name would be intuitive.
Outside the instance, I'm not sure! I like the thinking of the mate but it still seems a bit too... something
Lmfao I kind of like db0s because if you pronounce it "oh" instead of 0 it's the default schema for all m$ databases.... Haha
Lol I take it back
zero dividers
These are mostly joke suggestions, but:
NaNs
nulls
voids
unhandled exceptions
... common theme here is the math/programming joke, but many of them also capture elements of anarchism, or can be interpreted as adopting a self-referential moniker which mocking the systems anarchists critique.
... probably it is a bit of a reach, but a good number of people refer to black cats as 'voids' these days, and ... pretty decent history of angry black cats as symbols of anarchism.
You could also maybe l33tsp33k them up a bit?
Use 'z' instead of 's' to pluralize?
... common theme here is the math/programming joke, but many of them also capture elements of anarchism
first I didn't understand, but this way "unhandled exceptions" sounds very cool. maybe a bit long though
Depending on what programming language you are using, and precisely how you've coded a function, which exact numerical data types, and functions/methods you are using...
Actually attempting to divide something by zero will result in either NaN, Not a Number, Null, or an Unhandled Exception, as an... output value/error type.
I tried to explain 'void' a bit better, Im not personally familiar with any code language that'll have 'void' as an output/error type when you try to divide by zero... but most people use the phrase 'null and void', so, my brain associated that word in as well.
As far as how those terms refer back to an anarchist mindset?
I am 'not a number', I am a human being, so are all others.
Null or nulled out has been a cyberpunkish slang term to refer to both an individual being seen as inherently unspecial, not unique, made into just another consumer/commodity... as well referring to actually killing or otherwise neutralizing someone or something... for decades now.
It seems you get the less programmy meaning of 'unhandled exception', in the 'become ungovernable' sense, but now hopefully you also get the math/programmer meaning, and see how these all work as double entendres or at least have somewhat esoteric meanings.
... The problem is that they don't work as well in common speech as a replacement for common nouns... with at least one of the reasons why that is the case being that evidently the multifarious meanings are too esoteric, lol, which is why I said I was mostly proposing these as jokes.
pirates?
0s pirates divers arcs
idk anything else
mates or mateys whatever’s fine
i really do love the idea of m@tes
Lemons
I’m not hosted on this instance, but I worry that named identities based on instance host may lead to tribalism, which would be unhealthy for Lemmy users and the fediverse as a whole. Using phrases like “local users” or “users of [instance name]” or “[instance name] accounts” may be a better option. We’re all in this big network to have a good time together.
I completely disagree. It's not tribalism, it's respecting coequal instance cultural differences. Each instance is self-governing, has an in group and an out group, and has culture associated with it as well as having voluntary association. If you want to erase individual instance identity and culture, good for you. Encourage that in your own instance or communities. We, as anarchists, pirates, neurodivergents and other things can decide these things for ourselves
Also makes it easier to remember.