'God has an order': Head of Trump's faith office says women must 'submit' to men
'God has an order': Head of Trump's faith office says women must 'submit' to men
Excellent since you must submit to me. I command you to stop telling women to do this.
Check mate
She doesn't have to listen to you, you're not her first or second husband.
Since we're going back to the caveman days all I need to do is kill her husbands and she becomes my wife.
That's what she wants, right? For women to become property again?
Spirit animal goals
Ribbit against the machine?
If anybody wants a reason religion needs to die look no further than subjugation of half our population for religion to exist.
Sounds like she shouldn't have gotten divorced three times if she gave a fuck what Jesus said.
But the prosperity gospel types know they're scammers, so she'll laugh all the way to the bank.
She was laughing AT the bank too, I saw her.
How could she accept the role of the head of an office if she thinks women should submit to men?
Hypocrisy is the water conservative “Christians” swim in.
1 Tim. 2:11-12: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”
Be silent Paula
FYI to Lemmy non-Christian’s: Paula White is an incredibly controversial figure in the evangelical community. Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies). This differs from traditional tithing which typically is used for salaries, services (keeping the lights on), and community outreach.
Why evangelicals can’t point to her malfeasance as evidence of Trump’s corruption is a mystery to me. Additionally many conservative Christians don’t believe women should be in a position of authority, citing the same scripture she is here as evidence. If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies).
Sounds like the Prosperity Gospel to me.
If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
This was the first thought I had when I read the headline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
The problem of evil is the philosophical question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God.
wish I could spit in the face of every fucking idiot who feels the urge to spread Christianity in any way. keep that idiotic bullshit tf from my life, you're all clowns and actors
It's counterproductive, even for the ones that once thought it was a way to improve society. They are just being used, and should reconsider if they are doing more harm than good.
They are just being used, and should reconsider
Reconsider?! Whoa there. That's too much like thinkin' which is the devil's work.
https://lemm.ee/c/open_christian
knock yourself out
What would be more awesome? Walking on water? Or flying thru a lake at ludicrous speeds on a jet? Or same but on a jetpack? Or same but at 30,000feet on a Boeing flying machine?
Also imagine a Boeing plane sitting on 30,000 feet? Why!!!
Feel free to spit in my face then.
I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.
As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.
Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.
Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”
I don't disagree with you that these people are taking a message that seems inconsistent with the biblical portrayal of Jesus. But the above comment was criticising people "who feel the urge to spread Christianity in any way". Which, yeah. Fuck them. If someone wants to do their research and convert to Christianity because they like it, more power to them.
But introducing children to that nonsense (by which I mean belief in resurrections and other obviously ridiculous bullshit, even if it's not directly used to cause tangible harm) as though it's fact at a vulnerable young age should be considered child abuse. And preying on vulnerable lonely or depressed people and using highly manipulative tactics like love bombing the way many evangelical branches of Christianity do, as do Mormons and I believe Jehovah's Witnesses, should also be considered abusive behaviour.
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.
So now that distorted sharpie-version of Christianity IS the actual and real Christianity, even if you don’t like it. You can either accept that being a christian is very similar to being a garbage nazi, or you can start to kick them out.
But they’re yours, and you’re theirs
open up for me 🛐
Hey if that’s her kink, good on her. But keep it to yourself lady
It's her kink for that to happen to other women, it doesn't apply to her. They're all like that.
WTF is a "Faith Office" and why didn't DOGE cut it
Because "DOGE" isn't about efficiency, but rather enforcing far-right ideology, by making anything left of Mussolini ineffective.
Before I was banned, my highest up-voted post on Reddit was a clip of this woman babbling in tongues for God to intervene in the 2020 election.
HAHA fucking found it! I challenge you to watch it and not laugh.
I recently got banned for saying we should have hanged all southern traitors after the civil war
I was banned for up voting this image:
Lol what's up with the guy walking behind her with a towel, is he trying to leave the planet?
He's the hype man. The Flava Flav of Prosperity Theology.
She's talking about angels coming from south america and africa to help trump win an election. Sounds to me like the church needs to be investigated for illegal immigration and voter fraud.
So I hear they want angels from Africa and South America to come to the US and vote for Trump.
Arguably Trump’s most ardent supporters, Pentecostal-charismatic faith-based media moguls have enjoyed unprecedented access to the White House during Trump’s tenure. In return, they have showered the president with praise and loyalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues
Speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia, is an activity or practice in which people utter words or speech-like sounds, often thought by believers to be languages unknown to the speaker. One definition used by linguists is the fluid vocalizing of speech-like syllables that lack any readily comprehensible meaning. In some cases, as part of religious practice, some believe it to be a divine language unknown to the speaker.[1] Glossolalia is practiced in Pentecostal and charismatic Christianity,[2][3] as well as in other religions.[4]
EDIT: Also, someone on that page you linked to did a cat version:
Techno cat version is great
Why is there even a faith office? gtfooh
Because the "Heritage" foundation paid for it, and they're a bunch of Xian Fundies. Project 2025 (which Trump knows absolutely nothing about, he says so himself) is their baby.
Well because they’re Nazis
Dates back to Bush's "Office of Faith-Based Initiatives". Sounds like it gets hauled out again whenever it feels like support from the religious crowd might be a little soft.
I wish conservative women would shut up as much as they ask other women to.
"I'm up here working on the initiatives for President [Trump], who's been in ministry for 40 years and understands it," she insisted.
WTF? Show ANY evidence at all of 40 years of HitlerPig's "ministry," specifically anything BEFORE he decided to run for president.
She tops from the bottom
Now Dennis, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.
OMG she's a little brat
just like me if I was a weird religious zealot fr fr, nice to have representation
🤯
Some dude should've walked up to the podium and told her to sit down.
'about to embark on a reading of [her] 12-book epic entitled “My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles” when [her] own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save life and creation, lept straight up through [her] neck and throttled [her] brain.'
God has an order
For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
Put your hat on, Paula. I'm definitely seeing uncovered hair there, and we know how God is about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wb40_U1ZU
Preaching to the innocent masses with that sinful outfit.
This lady has been divorced twice.
Not that I otherwise care. Do what you want with your life and relationships - life is complex and difficult at times. Not every relationship works out, sadly.
But for a twice-divorced lady to tell women to “submit to men,” it sounds like she herself has a problem keeping her trap shut and submitting to a man. The hypocrisy is so thick here you can cut it with a knife.
Rules for thee but not for me.
She divorced because the husbands every day asked her how she felt and what wanted to eat, and that's unacceptable, the husbands gotta decide!
Sounds cool Paula... Please shut the fuck up then.
I've only seen sniveling cowards in the trump administration, no men.
"I do not permit a woman to teach, or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence."
1 Timothy 2:12
From the fantasy novel most read in the world
It's the oldest book club in the world
Weekly meetings, some fan groups meet daily, annual comic cons, leaders in cosplay, dedicated fan organizations, dozens of fan groups with parallel universe / alt universe / sequels / prequels / off shoots / old school / new wave versions.
So, you'd think that, but maybe she's just talking to women.
If you don't figure in an "it's okay for women to teach women" angle, Proverbs 31:26 gets a little awkward:
She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
.... or we can just jump to .... Ezekiel 23:20
'There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses'
How the everloving fuck does she know what God wants?
It's from a passage in the Bible.
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
usually when something happens god always sends in the angels to deal with his wrath and to signal the end times with 7 angels and trumpets. they should watch evangelion.
Ofc Trump has a fucking faith office. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he tried implementing biblical laws like some type of Christian version of Sharia law, or called for teaching creationism as fact in schools.
The American Taliban.
100% this is definitely what he's going to do. Use Christianity as a weapon, and cite things like this and the prosperity gospel, then ignore any of the messages of Christ. None of that Jesusy stuff you know?
I grew up in the Bible belt, and had some truly awful experiences with people like this that made me distance myself from identifying as a Christian for a long time. I didn't want to go to church and be around these kinds of people, but I realized I never stopped believing in the importance of the beautiful messages I learned literally from as early as I can remember.
The book of Matthew talks about Jesus passing through a city and someone asking him, of all of the information in the old testament, what is the most important to remember? Jesus answers the question by summarizing the 10 commandments into 2:
The first is love thy God with all thy heart, all thy soul, and all thy mind. The second is like unto it, love thy neighbor as thyself.
Literally a message straight from Jesus telling you, if you take away nothing else from this book, then remember these two things. JD Vance has tried to publicly argue that the second part isn't really something you necessarily have to agree with as a Christian. This is so very important to remember when they try to use Christianity as a weapon, and something I've thought about a lot.
The first message is love thy God with everything you are. The second, is like unto it (it goes without saying), love thy neighbor as thyself.
If you believe God created man in his image, and you truly love him with your entire heart, your entire mind, and your entire soul, then you must also strive to have that same love for yourself because you recognize you are part of God's creation.
In order to truly love God with everything you are, it goes without saying you must also love your neighbor and recognize your neighbor is also part of God's creation.
It’s actually going to be worse because they plan on gutting education completely
Well, this man is telling you to shut the fuck up, so maybe take your own advice.
ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS
With the competition removed, Shintoism soon spread across the face of the globe.
Hypothetically if a nation did eradicate its major religion with armed violence, missionaries going there would be a bold move indeed.
Lots of lunatics on Lemmy.
The good news is that there are a lot of people obviously breaking laws and colluding in and around the Trump admin, so when Republicans get wiped out in the coming elections we may see a lot of them going to prison. No democracy-ending political violence necessary.
The opposition of the Nazis were banking on the Nazi government not working out so much they'll win with a sweep (liberals), or that it will radicalize the average people (communists). They ended up in concentration camps.
the coming elections
lol. sure thing bud.
why are you "womensplaining" a man and why are talking out of your place-,faith adivsor for trump.
Faith Office? Every single Ayatollah from 1979 Iran to the present should be fucking proud of this BS.
Shouldn't she be at home shitting out kids and not telling people what to do then? Is the faith office composed entirely of women?
Someone remind MTG of that when she goes off
She needs to get back in the kitchen and make some sandwiches and be seen and not heard.
Paula White needs to STFU and get back in the kitchen.
She look like she was made from a McRib
Someone tell her to go read 1 Timothy 2:12
All right, then go fuck off to a cave and live out your miserable existence away from society
Look, I understand that might be your kink, but leave that shit in your house lady and stop trying to make other people be part of your kink.
Cunt.
Stop making your bedroom play everyone else' problem. If you want to be a submissive in a consensual bdsm dynamic you do you but leave everyone else who doesn't want to participate out of it
Next Stop! Gilead!
You missed your stop. You were supposed to step off at 1930s Germany, right? Well, now we’re already headed towards medieval Spain. You might like the inquisition though.
damn I wasnt expecting that
Nobody does.
"White House Faith Office", that sounds like someone is pushing the "Faith" branch of their current Frostpunk playthrough a bit too far. Next up are the "Faith keepers". Ugh.
Sec. 2. Establishing a Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias. (a) There is hereby established within the Department of Justice the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias (Task Force).
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/
Shit's fucked.
women must 'submit' to men
Does that include trans women? 😜
This feels like kink shaming, women can be doms too.
Lol I just said the opposite and I scroll down to this.
Other point of view.
Great minds think alike! or fools never differ
Thank goodness religion is fake bullshit.
If God wasn't real, corrupt leaders would invent him.
So then why does she have a job right now?
Ephesians 5:25 is underrated
"Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ loved the church and handed himself over for her"
"I'm up here working on the initiatives for President Trump, who's been in ministry for 40 years and understands it," she insisted.
"Not me though".
I thought I had heard her name before:
Is this the lady that like poisoned her husband or something? Or was that a different member of the faith office?
I'm a man, Paula. You gonna submit to me?
Bible sales up 22%? Please tell me this is satire.
kagis
Sales of Bibles Are Booming, Fueled by First-Time Buyers and New Versions
Publishers attribute a 22% jump in Bible sales this year to rising anxiety, a search for hope, or highly focused marketing and designs
The Pew Research Center found that about 28% of adults in the U.S. now consider themselves religiously unaffiliated. Yet Bible sales rose to 14.2 million in 2023 from 9.7 million in 2019, and hit 13.7 million in the first 10 months of this year. Readers are also stocking up on related titles that provide guidance, insights and context—even sets of stickers to flag particularly meaningful passages.
“People are experiencing anxiety themselves, or they’re worried for their children and grandchildren,” said Jeff Crosby, president of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association. “It’s related to artificial intelligence, election cycles…and all of that feeds a desire for assurance that we’re going to be OK.”
kagis
As a Kagi customer myself, I will never not downvote this.
Shared this with the wife. Her response:
Fuck you, no. You get what you give.
Sums it up pretty nicely.
Tell her that that great moral authority, the Trump administration, says otherwise.
Is this the prosperity gospel person? I wouldn't take advice on Christianity from an antichrist-ian. You cannot serve Jesus and mamon. Anyone following trump is serving mamon.
Break the bonds that bind you. Give up religion and you are free from everyone that tries to tell you what god wants.
See that takes all the fun out of BDSM.
If she has to submit to me then it's not a willing exchange of power and it removes the pleasure of gaining control where you have none (or I suspect the opposite is true for subs - the pleasure of giving up control that you have to maintain).