Biden should have fucking went hog wild and before novemeber the powers of the president would have been completely neutered.
There isn't going to be another government or another free election until the current regime is put to the sword.
If it isn't entirely obvious that's the next play, I agree.
Agree. But who will do that?
Can’t say.
There's no need to cancel elections when fascists will easily win again.
lmao what
you still believe in these fucks?
System's broken. We don't need a different party in charge of the system we need a new system.
Agreed. The US is over. These people are bouncing the entire stock market up and down using tariffs and doing insider trading on it ... there is no justice whatsoever.
Not to mention the concentration/death camps and lack of free speech.
I mean, considering my post from the last 4 months you guys are making me so proud to be on lemmy right now.
Approval voting and more parties could theoretically improve things quite a bit. But switching to approval voting is probably not simple because why should the biggest parties support something that hurts them.
There are good democrats out there - many of us have met them in person. Just that the leadership, and threats from AIPAC money, twist them into not doing everything they can.
I wouldn’t be so pessimistic as to say EVERY person in the US looking into politics is corrupt. Just make sure to actually name people when lambasting them, not paint a wide swath.
That's literally the opposite of what the Dem leadership ever does. Expecting them to put the outcomes for regular people over system rules and norms (and their owner donors) is like expecting a sheep to become an obligate carnivore.
Neoliberals don't change the system, they ARE the system. You're not going to get systemic change from someone whose raison d'être is protecting the norms and rules at all costs.
old guard dems are just GOP in disguise, because they often work together behind the scenes making deals, they both of the same megadonors, additionally they hope to get by being "not-republican" candidates.
Nope.
Dems try to adhere to The Rules And Procedures
Pubs don't give a shit
That first part is kinda what I'm saying: Dems adhere to the rules and procedures even when it prevents them from taking completely reasonable actions that the people who they're supposed to represent want.
Republicans break all rules and norms to do awful things and Dems refuse to break any rules or norms to stop them.
It's like a fistfight where one fighter is wielding a sawed off shotgun and the other refuses to even fight dirty.
Dems try to adhere to The Rules And Procedures
Tell that to Nancy's stock portfolio.... Or is that "legal"?
Either way they're 2 rich 2 resist.
They've got dozens of excuses for failure, that's just one of them.
Start by sending a handful of Republican Senators and Congressfolk to El Salvador.
I think you mean ms13
But they must admit after that it was an administrational mistake
There are plenty of dems who should go too...
But unfortunately as an anti-fascist I don't support sending anybody to gulag.
They would need to grow spines first.
Democrats are centrist liberals. They are capitalists. They are cop-loving authoritarians. They will never fulfill your leftist liberatory desires. Stop deferring your political will to wishes they will never manifest. You have Stockholm Syndrome. Go do something yourself that matters to you in your own community.
Well said, I'm still going to post my opinions but there's really nothing you've said that I can refute.
I should probably add: I don't mean to be a dick. I say all this stuff because I care, I hate seeing comrades efforts and dreams and desires frustrated by this deadend political party year after year, election after election. I imagine if all the passion we drained into the DNC instead went into creative modes of organization and direct action in our own towns and cities?
Is this how liberals fantasize about revolutionary action while still staying as milk toast as possible?
Edit: I appreciate Lemmy for the simple fact that I can use "liberal" in any sub and not be considered a conservative by default when I'm criticizing that perspective.
Pandora’s box is opened, and once that happens, it’s almost impossible to close it. I’m going to be honest, the next election cycle, I’ll consider voting for the blue equivalent of Trump. Now that we know presidents can act like kings, it’s time progressives capitalized on that. Why not lock up rightwingers and hatemongers, slap tariffs on oil, and deport Zionists in order to fight Islamophobia?
Presidents can act like kings if they have the Legislative and Judicial branches in their pocket. No progressive ever will.
Have you met democrats?
"Don't call me 'Christy,' I'm not one of your strippers."
"...you could be..."
ETA: you basically just said Avasarala twice.
Is Cuomo running? I hadn't heard
Presidential immunity gives a democratic incumbent the right to slap a republican senator daily
Sorry, I get the spirit of the meme and it’s nice to daydream but fuck no. I don’t trust the Democrats to do anything in the interest of the people.
It's not whether you trust one absolutely or not.
It's always, as ever, relative. You pick between the options for the best bad option or you abdicate your vote and then must suffer (potentially) the worst of both worlds.
What I mean is I don’t want the Democrats to go hog wild with the law the same way the Republicans are because they are also owned by the Capitalists. Since I don’t have another choice of course I’m very likely to Vote Blue No Matter Who™️ to my great displeasure, unless a more progressive party takes the lead by a landslide and actually has a good chance of winning
And that's why you have Trump destroying lives and sending the world in a vector towards endless war. Because people like you don't trust Democrats, in spite of their legislation and vote history.
A Democrat would never do it. You'd need an actual Leftist. They'd be the only ones with enough spine to sacrifice their own political career and reputation to get it done.
Yeah, but a bj in the oval office? I mean, have you met Hilary???
True. Democrats only want to govern like actual adults.
They're so obsessed with acting like the adults in the room that they give up everything that actually matters
I can't blame you if you prefer the orderliness of corporatism over the chaos of fascism, but the former always ultimately leads to the latter. At some point, you have to get rid of one to prevent the other.
Letting tens of thousands of people die without access to healthcare is acting like an adult????
Liberals are the epitome of the trolley fallacy: passive choices are still choices, letting someone drown in a nasty swamp because you want to stay clean is social murder. Liberals might appear to have clean hands, but their souls are soiled by the deaths of all the people they chose not to help
You think the laws will be fair? Check out how they're going to give Trump a 3rd term but keep Obama ineligible.
You right, they would have said the president is a powerless figure head on Monday and on Tuesday they would have a coronation. Full military parade.
They'd just have rolled it all back on Jan 21.
I mean, there was plenty of time between November and Jan 21 to rendition 3 justices, anyone in Congress tied to Russian money, the entire trump campaign and all of the Republican money middlemen that launder Russian money for political campaigns
You're not wrong but would have still had to layout the ground rules somewhere along the way. That and biden would have forced something through.
If we manage to have another presidential election, I will be behind any progressive or Democrat that promises to use the presidency in the exact way as Trump.
Forcing an rewritten version of the Constitution that eliminates flaws and loopholes, enacting term and age limits on all elected offices and the judiciary, deleting the electoral college, and so forth?
I am in.
The US needs a proportional voting system first and foremost
We're due for some public executions
At this point the main priority for the democrats has to be reforming the American voting system.
First past the post needs to go away, permanently.
It is ridiculous to have situations where a state population votes 51% for one candidate and 49% for the other, while the state as a whole gets to throw out the 49% of the other candidate.
Once that happens, other parties will spring up and actually have a possible way to get elected.
I've always agreed, though some have needlessly stood in opposition. The fact is someone else has to take the wheel, and win, for it to happen and democrats at large aren't creative enough to get it done.
“If” doing some heavy lifting there
As a dem voter I'm use to betting on precariously placed 'ifs.'
It's rather optimistic assuming that Republicans would act like they gave a shit about rule of law if they were the ones who wrote them. Laws are just for everyone else, in their minds.
Like it or not Republicans do work in the confines of the law. Now, sometimes they make work around or challenge some stuff but that's the exception more than the rule. Complete lawlessness is only something recently the GOP has started dabbling in.
have [...] went
.. have gone, my dude.
I wish, but that's the opposite of the goal of the democratic party. They don't see themselves as the opposition to the Republican party. Only priorities are maintaining the status quo and getting funding. That does tend to be better for us than the alternative, but any downstream benefits are mostly a happy accident.
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A. The Trump administration is breaking the law.
Yes, we know the rules are rigged. The system is dysfunctional. Breaking more things? Not gonna help! We have to get serious about creating something new. We need clear and fair rules.
And CONSEQUENCES.
"law"
Dems would have to oppose fascism first. Good luck with that.
We can manipulate the dems to our own purposes. But in order to do so, we first need to admit that the dems are fucking stupid and can't take hints.
AOC has the right idea, she's speaking their own dumdum language to manipulate them into not sucking.
Let's see, so if democrats can't get their way, they should just burn everything down so that they, and everyone, will be on the same equally shitty footing? That tracks.
No, they should force the GOP to act by doing the one thing that will make them: trying to enact their own policies.
They could have at least fulfilled original student loan promises at a minimum.
Americans have to realize that they don’t have a left wing option that is going to do anything and they won’t get positive change simply from voting anymore. They won’t do anything but maybe try peaceful protesting because they’re a shocking combination of cowardly and lazy that I did not expect, but that’s what needs to happen.
Smells like fucking Tankie in here.
Ruin what now?
As opposed to what's currently happening?
If Biden did that, it would have been anarchy right now
if Democrats ever win I fully exepct this:
"Now is a time of healing. To better unify our Great Nation™®© we are going to let Republicans fill every committee and pick every judge, we are even looking into how we might let them have the presidency. If we can't, do not worry, we will behave as if we were Republicans and will do as they wish."
I think Bernie's Fight the Oligarchy Tour is changing this, but more people needs to push this.
So is David Hogg, the new Vice Chair of the DNC. He’s a Gen-Z school shooting survivor who’s committed to primary out the centrists and turn them into a real opposition party.
Once Newsom is in CECOT he will have plenty of time to think about what he could have done.
Yea, the "democrats" will want to "reach across the table" and work with these fucking traitors. Why? Because most of them are likely in on it.
They take the same money from the same corporations. They don’t care if they win or lose an election.
Yep, that's what Obama did with the Bush people and the people that caused the GFC. And now all these people are back for round 2 with nothing learned (well, they learned there are no consequences no matter what they do).
Fucking hate how true this is.
That's bullshit, whenever the DNC is trifecta majority it's straight progressive agenda. We need not only democrats but we need senate supermajority again.
I'm not sure we live in the same reality.