Wisconsin teen allegedly killed parents in extremist plot to assassinate Trump, FBI says
Wisconsin teen allegedly killed parents in extremist plot to assassinate Trump, FBI says
Well that went in a totally different direction than I thought it would. He thinks they're not white supremacist enough?
he wanted their money. i'm still trying to understand why he, as a nazi, wanted to murder trump though. i feel like part of this story isn't being reported here.
While they're all pretty much the same in all the ways that matter to everyone who isn't a racist asshole, if you care to dig into it there's a lot of different white supremacists ideologies that really aren't compatible with each other. Historically a lot of different movements there spent a lot of time arguing and fighting with, and hating each other, which is why the "unite the right" thing was kind of a big deal.
KKK doesn't like Catholics, that's a sizeable portion of white people they have a problem with
There's some that think Christianity in general is a Jewish conspiracy, which is part of why you get some of them being all about Norse paganism and such.
Do they want to take over the US and remake it how they want, or do they want to split off from the US and start their own country?
Are they in favor of some sort of democracy, monarchy, theocracy, dictatorship, even occasionally some form of anarchy, etc?
You can go really deep down the rabbit hole trying to unpack all of their competing ideas. They're all crazy and extreme, but they're crazy and extreme in different ways.
It's not at all surprising to me that some of them don't like trump, maybe they just outright don't like him, maybe they think he's a useful idiot who has outlived his usefulness, maybe they think he isn't going far enough, maybe they're just insane.
I know right. If he wants Nazis, then the right people are already in charge.
There's always people like that. Elon Musk's grandfather thought Hitler was a Jewish plant because he wasn't anti-semitic enough.
The sheriff’s department issued a search warrant and say they found material on the teen’s phone related to “The Order of Nine Angles,” which is “a network of individuals holding new-Nazi racially motivated extremist views,” according to investigators.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation reviewed documents allegedly written by the teen, which calls for the assassination of Trump and the start of a revolution to “save the white race,” according to federal court documents.
He judged, I think accurately, that they weren't willing to relinquish the funds needed to * checks notes * assassinate the elected leader of a global superpower? Holy shit, and he's so much of a Nazi that he sees Trump as a reasonable candidate for left-leaning targets? Who the fuck did this kid think he was, fucking Giga Hitler?
He did it wrong. Neither of his parents were Trump.
Well he narrowed it down.
He was just using process of elimination to eventually figure out who Trump is and is not.
Ah, the scientific method.
As nutty as trump's supporters are. It's truly terrifying that there are still plenty out there that feel he hasn't gone far enough.
i'm trying to understand in what world a nazi would be angry with trumps actions.
From what I understand, much of American nazi ideology revolves around accelerationism towards an all-out genocidal race war. If their white savior figure were to be martyred it could further radicalize the right towards that end. Keep in mind the last attempt on Trumps life was by a right-winger and that only galvanized his followers. They aren't angry with Trump, they're just insane bigots that will go to any lengths to promote genocide.
I mean, didn't Trump renege on some tariffs and back off on some other things while trying to hide the recensions by either distracting the public or just blaming the democrats.
The kid likely is in the mindset that any bit of 'give' shows weakness.
Who is waiting in the wings to take over?
The Federal Bureau of Investigation reviewed documents allegedly written by the teen, which calls for the assassination of Trump and the start of a revolution to "save the white race," according to federal court documents.
My guess is that the plan was to frame "the left" for the assassination and trigger a race war. These nuts are so itching for a fight that they believe that the entire country is on the verge of neighbors fighting neighbors, and they just need to push it over the edge.
Not going to lie. I had a bit of a start at first before I read the article wondering if that were the case. Which I think is exactly why the media framed it the way they did. A lot of people will only see the headlines.
Teen Kills Parents Under Influence of Online Nazis is the correct headline. "I'm gonna kill my parents so I have the money to kill the president" is not an assassination plot, it's just a delusion.
material on the teen's phone related to "The Order of Nine Angles," which is "a network of individuals holding new-Nazi racially motivated extremist views,"
calls for the assassination of Trump and the start of a revolution to "save the white race," according to federal court documents.
The alleged writings shows images of Adolf Hitler with the following text: "HAIL HITLER HAIL THE WHITE RACE HAIL VICTORY,"
Hard to grasp how incredibly broken those people are. Like, has no one ever told them it actually feels good to help other people? It's been scientifically supported as one of the most effective joy-inducing activities known, far beyond acquiring wealth or shopping. Ironically, it's probably the best way to demonstrate a sense of power (which these hollow souls seem to pursuing, through vitriol)...the power to influence someone else's existence in a beneficial way.
actually feels good to help other people?
What do you think he was doing but help white people? There is no evil, just 'good' people killing or surpressing those who are standing in the way to a good world.
Trump's propaganda engine will spin this so they can say, "See?! Real Nazis want to kill Trump, so obviously he's not fascist!"
So he is 17, his mom was 35, and his dad was 51? Thats some uncomfortable math.
Then he tries to become an uber nazi thanks to social media.
Just awful all around.
“The teen's stepfather, Donald Mayer, 51…”
Horrible, but at least not that part.
Thanks, I kept seeing "his parents" but missed the "stepfather". That makes that part not awful at least.
It may be a power imbalance. There's a link between domestic abuse and extremism so I wouldn't be surprised if he was raised in an abusive home
That was my first concern.
Someone else pointed out they mention stepfathrr elsewhere (I kept seeing just "parents"), so it may not be the case - or at least not as obviously the case as it would be if the father was the biodad as well.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation reviewed documents allegedly written by the teen, which calls for the assassination of Trump and the start of a revolution to "save the white race," according to federal court documents.
Something tells me the administration will ignore this.
"And he paid for, at least in part, a drone and explosives to be used as a weapon of mass destruction to commit an attack," investigators said in the federal affidavit.
What's "mass" about one drone? Is this just language to bring different legalities to bear?
I don't know about Wisconsin specifically, but some jurisdictions legally classify explosives as WMDs, alongside all the nukes and chemical weapons and stuff that people think of ordinarily.
Any destructive device is categorized as a WMD in the U.S., and rightly so. One drone strapped with a pipe bomb can cause a lot of damage very quickly with very high precision.
The hatred will consume itself. I hope to be left out of it.
Is there actual proof that he plotted to assassinate Trump? We know Trump has taken over the FBI and installed loyalists. Are we just going to take their word every time they say they've stopped some grand conspiracy like this?
This isn't the way.
The drone was a good idea, but… wow kid, you crazy.
I thought Nazis like the sitting president?
Some nazis out there think Trump isn't going fast enough.
Lots of different Nazis out there.
Some, I assume, are good people.
Edit for downvoters: I guess people don't remember Trump's "some, I assume, are good people" quote?
...Huh.
Right idea, wrong motive, I guess?
Wrong idea if it includes killing your parents.
Probably not the ideal way to go about it, no.
OTOH, I have serious questions for anyone that could raise a child to be a white supremacist that's trying to start a racial holy war. Or I would, if the suspect hadn't already murdered them.
I think they were referring to the method to be used later on.
A bit confused the guy...