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  • Based on all the discourse recently, my position that AI and LLMs should be outlawed.

    I am an unapologetic Butlerian Jihadist

    • I understand the sentiment in your view, but I politely implore you to think of all the people and scientific advancement that A.I. is already helping.

      There have been numerous cases of researchers using A.I., and the A.I. discovers numerous treatments for many types of diseases/illnesses, like types of cancer.

      Or the A.I. come sup with new types of steel and building materials, that actually work.

      • I have a background in virtual screening software, where we just brute forced every compound that was commercially viable to produce (ZINC database) to see if it would bind to a cell receptor.

        Having a new way to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks does not impress me.

        • But better AI should be able to pick stickier shits, which will save work in the long run. I agree that AI should not be used to hurt workers, but will be very important for fully automated luxury communism.

          • We are so far from automated luxury communism, and the idea that this technology would actually move us closer, is laughable. I honestly don't believe that any technology has actually moved us closer to Communism. They seem to actually just concentrate more and more power in fewer and fewer hands.

            Look if you want your fun little tech fetish, go right ahead, but don't claim that LLMs are making the world better.

            I watched the "Computer Revolution" and how it was going to fix EVERYTHING. It was going to transform the world.

            All it did was just make a couple thousand people, more rich than was possible before.

            All we are going to see is this buggy, hallucinating, flawed God take over everything, and like a mad God, it will make incomprehensible demands and pronouncements, and we'll all be forced to obey them, while a handful of billionaires cook the planet and extract all the value, then we all die.

            It's the stupidest fucking outcome, and every person who keeps being a booster for LLMs and masks their little freakish obsession with them with flowerly marxist language makes me sick.

            "actually it's good that artists, programmers, and writers are being proletarianized, replaced with a shitty hallucinatin LLM that can't actually do the work, but can bullshit it enough that management thinks they can layoff everyone and just pocket the savings"

            Jesus Christ.

            "Yes but we need the LLMs to destroy everyone's livelihoods so that we can have our secular version of a Rapture (violent revolution where a bunch of people who never fucking shoot guns (the SRA is a joke) win against a superior force) and finally achieve fully automated luxury Communism"

            Completely delusional

            • When the heck did I say that LLMs are going to run society? AI is much more than just LLMs, though LLMs are the manifestation of the current stage of development of AI.

              Companies like Walmart are already using automated systems to optimize product distribution and maximize profit.^[https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart] There is no reason why we can't use improved versions of these AI systems to centrally plan country-wide economics in the future to maximize well-being and other democratically-defined goals.

    • Not sure if I'd go so far as "outlawed" (not really sure how that would be accomplished, at least in our current society), but I otherwise agree, and the discourse about the topic on this site has been genuinely upsetting the hell out of me lately, particularly because of much it truly is downplaying/denying the very real harm it's causing, with some of it honestly coming across as cheering on said harm

      So many of my friends and loved ones are artists too, so it's particularly personal for me

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