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Lemmy for NZ Accessibility Communities

Hey

I'm a developer that has a few accessibility clients at the moment.

Specifically, Spinal NZ are looking for a knowledge sharing/support platform that will fix some of Facebook Groups's problems, including:

  • Unable to suitably categorise Posts (sub-group/topic type/region)
  • Difficulty searching/filtering
  • Posts ‘drop off’ the bottom (due to inability to filter)
  • Continual hacking risk
  • Platform controlled by off-shore corporate interests

I have an intuition that federated platforms such as lemmy may align to the needs of accessibly communities, given its openness, self governance etc.

I would host an instance for the community so that they can self-moderate and connect up to other instances that might align with their needs.

I was wondering if anyone would recommend using lemmy for this purpose, if there are other federated systems that might carry out the same goal?

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  • The idea is solid, the implementation may leave something too be desired. A hesitation I have is that Lemmy is new and unstable. It can be tricky getting things to work right for the average person, I can't imagine it's an easy time for anyone with higher accessibility requirements.

    Unable to suitably categorise Posts (sub-group/topic type/region)

    I think the only thing on Lemmy that helps with this is creating different communities on an instance. There is currently no tagging of posts or anything like that.

    Difficulty searching/filtering

    I'm not sure the search on lemmy is all that great? And with no tagging, filtering is pretty non-existent.

    Posts ‘drop off’ the bottom (due to inability to filter)

    Lemmy lets you go through each page so you shouldn't have a problem with not being able to go back far enough. It also allows you to sort by new comments so it's easy to find the things people are commenting on.

    Continual hacking risk

    This is a risk for any platform. I guess one benefit is you have your own backups, so if something happens you can restore from a backup. But I'd think Lemmy is much more likely to get hacked than a facebook group (with admins using 2FA). It wasn't that long ago that a security issue in the Lemmy software caused the largest Lemmy instance to have an admin account taken over by a malicious user.

    Platform controlled by off-shore corporate interests

    This is a benefit of Lemmy. You control it, you host it, you own it. You can choose which other servers you federate with (if any).

    Also, it seems like this might be something that is helpful to get a wider range of opinions on. The community on !newzealand@lemmy.nz is significantly larger than this !support community, perhaps you could cross post it there as well? (there is a little icon under the post for cross posting if you're accessing Lemmy from a browser).

    Also r/blind set up a Lemmy server at https://rblind.com and they may have some suggestions on whether it's suitable.

    One thing that may help that people often don't know, when you post a picture in Lemmy (or anywhere using markdown), you can put alt text so blind users can have their screen reader tell them what's in the image. You put the alt text in the [], like so: ![alt text](https://image.url)

  • Not really answering your question, but the biggest challenge with anything of this kind is getting people to move across. Facebook and the other big social media platforms are so embedded into people's lives, that they will protest loudly at being asked to move, even if what they're moving to is substantially better.

    Lemmy is a pretty good platform, although still has a lot of holes. Over time, I think these will be improved, but that could takes years. For what you're talking about, have you considered just a standard, old-school forum? There are plenty of options here, but it seems like federation is maybe not that important to you. You just want everyone in one place, and one you can manage yourself. Old-school forums tend to suit that kind of discussion among smaller groups better than Lemmy/Reddit, which is more designed for larger numbers of users. There are even some that are planning integration with the fediverse if you did want that, although AFAIK none of them have actually done this yet.

    If being on the fediverse was important, then Lemmy wouldn't be a bad option. With a few tweaks (e.g. disabling downvotes?) you could probably get it working for your needs.