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“It Wouldn’t Be Surprising If, in Two Years’ Time, There Was a Film Made Completely Through AI”: Says Hayao Miyazaki’s Own Son

animexnews.com “It Wouldn’t Be Surprising If, in Two Years’ Time, There Was a Film Made Completely Through AI”: Says Hayao Miyazaki’s Own Son

Goro Miyazaki, son of Hayao Miyazaki and current managing director of Studio Ghibli, made a striking prediction about the future of animation.

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Well sure, he didn't say a good film.
- It's a very low bar these days

Goro Miyazaki directed Tales From Earthsea. When you look at how bad that movie is, it makes sense that he wouldn't see AI movies as inherently problematic; they'll be similar in quality to his own work.
- Passing reminder that Goro Miyazaki is an architect who never wanted to make movies. He was brought on as an architecture advisor, and the studio kept pushing him to take more and more responsibility because he's his father's son, and his father encouraged it. The movie sucks because he's not a director and he didn't want to make it.
  (Side note: I actually rather like Tales from Earthsea, so when I say it sucks I'm referring to general public reception and not my own opinion.)
- Even worse, he directed Earwig and the Witch... Tales From Earthsea was at least somewhat competent
  
  I haven't watched that one yet. So it's worse? ●︿●
  
  I’m going to watch it anyway, so there.
  But as a brain cleanse, try little Emma. It’s not amazing, but it’s cute as hell. Itty bitty humans smaller than sentient racist livestock.
- I liked that one. I'm supremely doubtful he's correct, but I don't think his directorial prowess has anything to do with it.
- Which is really a shame because the book series is fantastic.

Not "Completely", but they are trying.
The Last Screenwriter
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32236000/
"Featured Review" is telling.
Cancel-culture mob missed the point. Shame on the cinemas who cancelled the screening because whinging mobs shook their fists.
First of all, the movie is non-profit. Secondly, it was made by a real human crew and real actors.
It was clever to get ChatGPT to write a film script about a screenwriter who feels his job is threatened by AI's superior writing ability. How can anyone not be curious to watch this movie?
...
Ultimately, the script lacks any real punch or decent plot twists or narrative layering that we humans love about film. It doesn't go anywhere you wouldn't predict.
emphasis mine.
- Maybe we just don't like AI, and billionaire fuckwads just need to suck it up and move on, like how Zuck bet the farm that the Metaverse was going to be the next hot thing and now has to pretend he didn't spend gobs of money on it.
  But no, it's the cancel-culture mob. 😂 JFC, what a take.

It’ll probably be a sequel to Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
- Loved that movie.
  
  I did too, actually. I don’t know why it popped into my head immediately reading “AI movie”. Maybe the animation?
  Now I kind of want to watch it again.

If he means A.I. Artificial Intelligence then its too late. Spielberg already made that film back in 2001.
- I still don't believe that Kubrick actually wanted the movie to be as bad as it was...
- I honestly really disliked that movie. Wonder if I'd feel differently now that I'm older.
  
  I liked it, but I'm a sucker for "robot wanna be a real boy" type stories
  
  It’s admittedly not a “fun” movie. It’s a really sad story in the end and most of the movie, the characters are uncomfortable in their situation.
  I think it touches on some real questions we’re going to have to ask ourselves in the coming years about how much we’re going to allow AI into our personal lives.
  For anyone who hasn’t seen it, it forgets most of it, it’s worth seeing. Just don’t expect iRobot or Black Mirror.

I searched the article for anything meaningful. There is absolutely nothing.
They relayed two isolated sentences of a guy, notoriously son of a legendary animation artist, notoriously not quite as talented and in a conflictual relationship with him. So not the legendary artist, the one that nobody would know if he wasn't his son.
The two sentences are "This thing is likely to happen. No idea how it will be perceived."
Yeaaaah.

there isnt already? look at all those youtube videos.

Optimist: if anyone can generate a movie with a snap of the fingers, the best-written ones will emerge on top and we'll have a glut of amazingly-written movies.
More likely: it's all going to be slop.
- Best case scenario imo is that you can make your own movie at home and watch it with your friends and laugh at how weird and bad it is.
  
  Imagine if it's a live stream, changing the plot as you watch dependent on your reaction.
  At first it might be fun to see what happens if Frodo doesn't throw the ring in the lava, but eventually you gotta ask yourself why you're wasting your time in front of a screen watching weird cat videos.
- It'll be choice paralysis for new movies and people will just watch the oldies if any movies
- AI will never surprise you.
  
  I was imagining the human would write it

Probably that could also happen today. there have been fully AI generated Youtube channels optimized for attention grabbing for some time now, mainly for children

We already have Marvel

I mean the concept seems pretty obvious. Obviously it won't be supprising when a film is made completely through AI... What will be suprising will be if it doesn't suck.
I find it weird that this is being viewed as a difference between the 2, when to me the quotes seem pretty much the same. IE the father
father: "I see you did this, it's terrible and I want nothing to do with it, it's an insult to life".
Son: "I don't think it's unlikely people will make a movie entirely through AI, whether anyone will want to see it is anyone's guess".
I don't see any quotes from the son on his opinion of quality, and if anything I see skepticism towards quality. I don't think anyone can deny, a lot of people are going to try really hard to make full movies entirely from AI. That's as obvious of a statement as "people will try to make cars that drive themselves".

Is Miyazaki going to go in on his son again?

And it will be absolute trash.

Wonder if AI will enjoy watching it?

:cough: "Twins HinaHima" :cough: (Admittedly only about a third of a feature film in runtime, but that's close enough for me. However, I haven't been able to find any English-language information on just how much of the work the AI was responsible for.)

There are plenty of things where AI (a really bad naming) will be useful - Art is not one of those... Without life experiences you'll ever be a copycat at best - and even if by chance artificial art is going to be halfway good, I'm, for one, not in the least interested in it. (I've already turned away from most mass/factory produced Hollywood garbage, I certainly wouldn't want more of it produced by a machine).
- AI could be useful for art, except it's not made for artists, but the average people who think art is all about an idea, not the implementation. Frame interpolation would be useful, but instead we have hard-to-tame video generator models that can make a few images be animated...

Something I'd personally love to be able to do is to ask it to recreate an existing tv series but according to my personal preferences by removing stuff from them that I don't like and adding things that I do. The Walking Dead for example wouldn't even need that much tweaking to make it actually good. Another thing I'd love to use it for is to create new seasons for finished series such as Yellowstone.
- And to make sure that everyone is portrayed by glen powell

Coming from the man who was responsible for Earwig and the Witch ( アーヤと魔女 ), this means little. The man who was responsible for arguably one of the absolute worst Ghibli films trying to tell us that in a couple years we'll have a full-on AI film. Don't make me laugh.
- He didn't say it's gonna be good
- You and people upvoting you are no better than AI if you can't get any kind of contextual awareness from what is being said.
  The guy never said it would be good. He also questioned whether people would even want to go watch an AI-generated movie. The very first sentence of the article says "nothing can replicate his father Hayao's unique artistic vision that defines Studio Ghibli."
  He never said such movies would be good, nor did he say the studio would make a movie using AI. The only positive thing he said was that new technology (not AI specifically) has the potential of unexpected talent to emerge.
  So your views on the quality of his movies have nothing to do with what's being discussed here.
- trying to tell us that in a couple years we'll have a full-on AI film
  To be fair, he never said it would be any good.

There are still some films worth looking.
But will there be any then?

They are going to destroy things we deeply love and hold to be sacred, as casual as we may normally feel about defining things as "sacred"

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