Are most of you using Torrents or Usenet?
Are most of you using Torrents or Usenet?
I'm a bit surprised to see so many torrent posts. Are most people still using Torrents? Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Are most of you using Torrents or Usenet?
I'm a bit surprised to see so many torrent posts. Are most people still using Torrents? Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Torrents.... Fast, free, and easy
my man
What is fast for you? On usenet it maxes out my internet speeds. Can't get any faster than that. And I pay like 5 bucks a month for usenet. Fully automated, max speeds. It's worth it.
I just paid $70 for a 3-year PIA subscription to mask my torrent usage from my ISP. So, an average of a little over $2 per month. Well-seeded movies only take about 10 minutes to download, more obscure stuff admittedly takes longer. Also, torrent streaming exists, so you can start watching even faster if that's your thing.
Admittedly, I'm not familiar with Usenet or how it works. I'm just saying that torrents are cheap, fast, and easy. Do you have a crash course on how to use Usenet? I'm curious.
Torrents can also max out your speed if there are enough seeds, unless you live in a country where your ISPs are allowed to throttle specific types of traffic or something. Or I suppose if you have 10 gbit downlink then you prolly won't max it off a torrent.
Idk what you mean by fully automated. If you mean sonarr, radarr and the like, they work for torrents too.
I might very well try usenet when I get fiber in my current location (haven't had it in over a year, it sucks, don't recommend) and a server for the arr suite, but in general I like my piracy being free lol
Not OP but well seeded torrents max out my server's ethernet at 80 MB/s (bytes not bits)
What's the problem with torrent?
Honestly nothing at all, I just prefer the speeds and reliability of Usenet (though I pay for that).
Private trackers have great speed and reliability as well. I've been using sonarr and radarr for years but have never bothered with Usenet due to the added cost. They all work great with torrents even though they were originally designed for Usenet.
Torrents. I don't really find Usenet worth the money. I can get most of the stuff I want on public sites. Some others I can get on private trackers. Never really felt the need to use Usenet. And as others have pointed out, the arr apps work great with torrents.
And honestly, I find it a little scummy to pay for content to people who don't own them. I don't think piracy in itself is unethical, but I if you take money for stolen content, that's not cool in my book.
I get what you are saying about paying someone who doesn‘t own the content.
However I‘d argue that you are not paying them for the content, but just for hosting it on their servers. So its more like a tool, as is your VPN if you are torrenting. And most people wouldn‘t mind paying a VPN just to pirate content.
Usenet, I agree, might take you some time to get invites to the good indexers, especially if you don‘t want to pay immediately, but in the long run it‘s definitly worth it.
I havn‘t played arround with torrents for quite some time, whats the most popular setup for torrents atm?
Not sure about the most popular setup, but I use a docker container that has qbittorrent-nox
and gluetun
in it. It's connected to some other containers with arr apps and such.
And I think it's a bit different than just paying for VPN. You can use VPN for many other reasons. But here, you know exactly what you're paying for. I'd never pay to use any private tracker for the same reason.
I use torrents almost exclusively because of the price (free) and convenience. That is, I can get them easily where I live for no additional cost beyond my low speed internet. I have no extra money at all, at this time in my life, unfortunately.
Probably a dumb noob question, but shouldn't one use a VPN for privacy when torrenting? Wouldn't that add additional cost?
Live in a third world country and all software is free software. No strings attached
Some countries just don't care (even if they have laws on piracy), no vpn needed.
You can also torrent on i2p for added slowness and privacy. Usually fast enough.
You can get reputable VPNs for very cheap. Windscribe provides unlimited bandwidth for a minimum of $3 a month and Mullvad is $5 a month.
Usenet typically requires more expensive fees to join.
I use a free VPN (Windscribe's free 15 GB) from time to time if I'm torrenting something very new. Otherwise I don't use one.
There are a few free ones that some like to use. ProtonVPN is an example.I am currently using Nord(paid). However I cant atest to the security of any of them. I have had no issues with Nord.
Honestly had no idea usenet was still a thing. I’m old. Old enough to know usenet and have used it back in the day. But young enough to switch torrenting and not ever really learn another way
Now I have to look up some info!
Usenet costs money, that's why I don't use it.
same. I already pay for VPN. I can't be bothered to figure out how usenet has changed in the almost 20 years since I last was on it.
I enjoy torrents, searching and deciding which is the best quality + storage combo is right for me is the fun part
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Sounds like you yourself aren't aware of their capabilities, if you're presenting a false dichotomy of torrents or arrs
Torrent
utorrent
lol
I use the Starr apps with torrents. I kinda just forget all about it since it all just works.
Torrents. Because it's free and fast (if what I'm pirating is famous enough). I started using sites like 1337x, nyaa,rabg🪦 etc.. with qbittorent a few years ago and never had any reason to change.
Except for rarbg
RIP rarbg
Torrents for everything, i've found it to be one of the safest ways as well, thanks to all of the other ship mates who seed with me.
I've yet to try Usenet. I use Qbitorrent. I've heard of sonarr and radarr, but I haven't used them.
Sonarr is phenomenal for downloading active TV shows. Just add the show and when a new episode comes out it gets it automatically. Radarr is great for downloading from lists. Let's say you look up Spielberg movies and find a imdb list with all is movies. Add the list and radar gets all the movies.
I just cannot figure those pieces of software out. Gotta try again next month.
I think the best way is to use dockers. Hit me up if you need any help.
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Of course we are, hell that's what I use with my torrents. They aren't just for usenet lol
Torrents work great for my needs and I prefer them. Haven't really messed with usenet much.
I use torrents and usenet. I have sonarr and radarr configured to fetch from both.
I like using both because they each have different strengths. Usenet tends to be faster, but torrents tend to have longer retention and a wider variety of content.
Torrents are free. I use both, but it's always a choice whether or not to renew Usenet.
Torrents+Real Debrid and IPTV have taken care of all my media streaming needs.
I do have Sonarr/Radarr setup, but streaming via debrid works so well I haven't needed to use them much.
I use sonarr/radarr setup with real debrid and usenet torrents sent to rdtclient
Never heard of rdtclient, seems like that would be cheaper than Usenet. Might have to give it a try.
I still use torrents sometimes but almost exclusively use Usenet these days. For Plex/jellyfin servers it’s pretty unbeatable.
Torrents are mostly stuff like audiobooks from audiobookbay and myanonymouse and games from repackers like Fitgirl.
I mean usenet costs money and torrents don’t.
Sonarr and radarr can use torrents just as much as they can use usenet. I used them for both, now I dropped usenet altogether.
I find it easier to either DDL or torrent, plus a lot of the stuff I'm after recently proved hard tto find on usenet for whatever reason.
It's more hassle to search usenet for my usecase and while it's true that maxing out download speeds is awesome, I'm not in a hurry. I let the .arr apps do the work while I'm busy with life and when I get back home I have it all ready anyways.
Neither. DDL only
This is the way 😂😂
Usenet is DDL
True. Just prefer DDL where I dont have to pay
I just switched to Usenet after using torrents for the past couple of years. The difference is night and day
Been using Usenet for 28 years, I use torrents if I can't find it on Usenet
Usenet. Been using it consistently for over 10 years now. I only torrent when I can't find something on usenet. So not too often. Plus Usenet just maxes out my download speed on everything. It's so freaking fast compared to torrents. I gladly pay for that.
I have no knowledge of usenet. How do I get started?
A quick run down: Get yourself a Usenet client (akin to qbittorent for example). SABnzbd is the most popular, free, and open source.
Next you will need an Indexer (similar to a torrent site like The Pirate Bay). There are a lot of these and you will usually need to pay (most are like 10-20 per year, some are free, but it may be hard to find content on the only free sites) to access an indexer. A good paid one I used was NZBgeek. Another is NZB Finder which has free accounts (with some restrictions).
Last thing you need is a Usenet Provider (these are the companies that actually host the files you download). You will need to pay for this for sure and most people actually pay for 2-3 Usenet providers (most only host things for a certain time and content can get taken down due to DMCA). There are a ton of options to choose from and you can mix and match is so many diffrent ways, but Frugal Usenet is pretty popular (if you pay for yearly, they give you an account for another Usenet provider that you can use as a partial backup). I always paired it with UseNight (just has speed restrictions depending on time, but its a great backup) which is very cheap per year. I don't want to get to technical, but I will mention it incase people want to take the Usenet dive. When buying multiple providers, do NOT buy them if they are from the same backbone! You can refer to this chart to help figure out the main ones. Content that gets taken down via DMCA is pretty much removed at the backbone level and will affect every provider under it (I know the free account from Frugal is the same backbone, but that's just for backup in case of outages).
Sorry just getting used to notifications in lemmy so I didn't see this till now. But @hydra@beehaw.org summed it up perfectly.
You need A client, an indexer, and a Usenet provider.
I use SABnzbd for my client, I've got several different index sites, and 3 providers. One of which is a yearly unlimited subscription and the other 2 are bucket plans where I buy access to a set amount of GB to download and once I use it, I either buy more or lose access. They basically serve as backup servers if something can't be found on my main unlimited server. I use prowlarr in conjunction with radarr and sonarr to manage my indexers and shows and movies, and use SABnzbd as my download client, connected to my Usenet provider. It works beautifully once you get it set up right.
This was the killer feature for me. That and not having to worry about getting takedown notices when I'm in the US. US ISP's seem to entirely ignore the existence of usenet.
Torrenting with a seedbox for me. I'm aware of Sonarr/Radarr and other automation tools but I don't feel like I have the need for them. Some part of me enjoys the manual search and management. Never touched Usenet though it's in the mental "maybe try later" bin.
I'd recommend giving Sonarr and Radarr a try at least. Setup is pretty straight forward but it goes way in depth if you want to work out the little intricacies of managing your media.
Setting them up via docker is highly recommended.
Why is docker recommended?
I've never used Usenet... I'm really not familiar with it, tbh. I just DDL or stream everything lol.
dumb q: what is DDL?
DirectDownLoad, is used to describe sites that offer download links without needing special software or protocols, might require lots of clicking through ads and downloading big files in multiple parts on different sites, since file hosts usually give a size limit to the files, think megaupload back in the day, you often hear the term warez for those too
I'm with you. Hoping to be enlightened.
I tried Usenet, wasn't a big fan of it, to be honest.
The way I see it, unless you live in a country where your traffic is constantly moderated for torrent traffic, there's no reason to not use torrents.
Also, IPv6 torrenting is for the most part unmoderated by ISPs, my friend who lives in California only torrents via IPv6 on qBit and he had gotten 0 emails from his ISP. However, YMMV depending on country.
I only ever used Usenet back in the day when my college threatened to shut off my internet if there was any more p2p traffic.
about 90% Usenet for me.
Couldn't ever find people to get invites from for private torrents and didn't want to mooch in forums where no one knew me so Usenet it is.
I use both private trackers and usenet added to Prowlarr along with Sonarr and Radarr. Usenet has priority, reverts to torrents when it can't find something or if I need some specific release
I used to use usenet religously, but it became fairly unreliable after a crackdown on NZBMatrix and I haven't really tried it in years. Is it fairly decent again? Lately I use Syncler for streaming through Real Debrid, and pass torrents through that service also.
I use sonarr, radarr (3x), prowlarr and overseer. I get most of what I need from usenet. I have most public teachers too as backup. I want to get stuff in their original language, so it's fine.
But lately I'm looking for multi language (English+French) stuff and I'm having a hard time finding that. On usenet there's nothing and torrents, there are too few french trackers.
Yggtorrent
Yes I have that one, but I had a hard time automating it due to the required ratio. I want to get a few terabytes of uploads first to be on the safe side and I have a hard time doing that. I'm now around 500gb. I might just pay for it lol
I use both. Rarr Stack and Sabnzbd and alldbird and a program that emulates qtorent.
Have found that some content is just easier to find on one platform or the other.
Torrent. Started using torrents in the 2000's. Stopped for a while, but now I'm back to torrenting. Searching for and curating my collection is part of the fun for me.
I use sonarr, radarr, overseer, prowlarr, and a bunch of other shit.
I exclusively use torrents. Everything is automated and in dockers. No reason to use Usenet IMO. It gets me nothing torrents don’t already do.
torrents automated with all the Arrs
I know Sonarr and Radarr, what else is there?
Neither. Real Debrid
What is debrid?
A service that downloads torrents for you and then lets you download the files from them. Doesn't seed.
Well to be fair it depends on personal preference rather than a technology being better than other. I used to torrent everything but nowadays I just subscribed to RD and with Stremio or Kodi + Trakt I got everything I need without having to worry for searching.
I rely on usenet for 90+% of content acquisition, but I have torrents for stuff I can't easily find or older content that is not recent release.
Torrents and muthafuckin' DC++!!!
Jesus, dc++ is still around???
@marx2k @doolittle wow literally haven't thought about that in 16 years I think.
@marx2k @doolittle Last time I used it was locally on a LAN party about 6-7 years ago.
Excuse my ignorance, what’s DC++?
DC++ is great but I can't get a decent working client for Linux that works with an IPv6 router (i.e. no port forwarding)
Its funny that you say "still using torrents" while the usenet is basically older than torrents
Torrent and ed2k/kad networks
A quick search told ed2k/kad are other p2p networks. What kind of files do you get from that? And can you automate it with sonarr or similar?
Well, the same files, but old files hold on better on ed2k/kad (easier to share and seed for as long as you can). But I know torrent is by far more popular, and usually I download new things from there and then seed on both networks through mldonkey. And no, you can not have the *arr suite on ed2k/kad, only torrent and usenet with specific clients.
Same here: Torrent and eD2K/Kad
Torrents, I like the community and indefinite retention. And with 1gbps home connections becoming more common staying in ratio has become way easier.
Or be like me with a 1gbps download but only 15mbps upload speed. Thanks Comcast!
I'm using torrents much less since fmovies. I just stream my shows and movies now. Music is also getting harder to find so I went back to Soulseek. For everything else, I'm using Tribler, an open source torrent client using onion routing.
Never heard about tribler . Does it use tor for the traffic ?
I don't think it uses Tor directly, but Tor technology: "a custom built-in onion routing network".
It seems to work from what I can tell because my downloads are not seen by iknowwhatyoudownload.com
More here https://www.tribler.org/anonymity.html
I see multiple private torrent tracker users in here. I primarily use Usenet, but is anyone willing to shed some light on the private torrent scene? Wouldn't mind having a backup for anything that fails on Usenet but don't have a clue where to even start research on good/reputable private trackers.
I'm on 4 private trackers. (All invite only, none currently available)
My experience has been pretty good. They're all relatively niche, and have a surprising ly deep library within their interest.
For me, the only drawback is that some days there can be a small group of seeders (and occasionally none) on certain files. But that can change day-to-day.
But the biggest bonus, I've never had to worry about getting a copyright warning on any thing I've got from any of them.
I've always thought private trackers were more dangerous since you can't use a VPN. Seems like all it would take is one fed or MPAA (or the like) agent joining and they have a treasure trove of info to investigate.
Usenet ftw - i can never go back to torrenting
Been on torrent for many years, recently started using the arr stack, it's fantastic. For torrents I source them from a private tracker, difference of quality and speed is night and day.
I've only heard good things about Usenet but personally, I can find almost anything I want via DDL so that's where it's at for me
I just got Sonarr and Radarr setup with Overseerr and Jackett and got my family on Plex so we can cut the cord on Netflix. Overseerr supports downloading from Plex watchlists so they don’t even need to use Overseerr to auto download movies. I still need to figure out how to sort and download better ones since I’ve selected “seeders” as the download is sometimes prioritizing quality.
I’m in a private invite only torrent site, and most shows/movies have an amazing availability. Seeding is a requirement and becusee its private, my ISP doesn’t send me DMCA notices.
Both configged on the *arrs.
I’ve been on the torrents for ages but just started with Usenet this weekend. So I’m dual wielding with Usenet as first priority.
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