3d ago

Trump tells UK to buy chlorinated chicken from US if it wants tariff relief

www.independent.co.uk

Summary

Donald Trump warned the UK must accept chlorinated US chicken imports if it wants relief from new 10% tariffs on British exports.

The U.K. has long reaffirmed its commitment to maintaining high food standards, with polling showing 80% of Britons oppose a ch imports.

Critics argue chlorinated chicken stems from poorer production hygiene, with studies showing high bacteria rates in US chicken.

Farming advocates warn a US trade deal with lower standards would be "devastating for British farming."

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Studies have shown that washing food in chlorine doesn't actually work as US authorities think. It can put the bacteria into a survival state called VBNC, viable but non-culturable. This means labs cannot culture the bacteria to test for its presence, but it is present and can still cause illness. It hides the problem, allowing for lower safety practices in favor of productivity and profit. Here is one such study: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/mbio.00540-18
- It hides the problem
  Seems to be working as intended
  
  It hides the problem or else it gets the hose again
- Sounds like the american way. Hide the problem in the name of profits rather than finding a real solution.
  Note: am american, and hate this mindset
- All you need to do to not need the chlorine wash is to not treat the animals so badly that they shit all over each other due to lack of space. Improve their welfare improve the product, but no. Dollars come first.
  
  Or just like, I dunno, don't undercook your chicken?

Imagine how fucking grand it would have been if this cunt had died from covid.
- Or the shooter had sights on his rifle...
  
  I’m still not convinced it wasn’t a fully orchestrated false flag. There’s too much about the incident and it’s aftermath that’s deeply suspicious.
- No, don't kill him. Let him develop Long Covid and then waste away in his own filth.
  
  The first time around, I said I didn't want him dead because I wanted him to face justice. I wanted him to rot in a cell while he watched the world prosper without him in power and see his efforts dismantled.
  That was misguided.
  
  Mentally, Donald is a toddler. Developing Long Covid and wasting away in his own filth wouldn't even jar him from his daily routine. He doesn't have the mental capacity to understand right and wrong. It's an absolute disgrace that homeless veterans freeze to death on the street while that asshat gets rushed to Walter Reed to get state-of-the-art treatment.
  
  Any reason to believe he doesn't have it?
  
  No, this man will be a scourge on mankind until he's dead in a fucking hole

trumpy: "you get the chemical chicken or we tax our people. what's your choice?"
art.of.the.deal

How is it even legal for the US to wash chicken with Chlorine ? Sounds like so ridiculous.
- Companies pay loads of money to politicians to have them change the health and safety laws so they can make even more money. It's a time-honored American tradition.
  
  This one time, some dude bought his own president for just over $250 million
- In the same country they bleach little kids assholes to cure autism and other things. So it's pretty fitting i would say
  
  ...pardon me??
- "Business Innovation"

Nah. Don't do it. Call for a referendum to get back into the EU. I'm sure in these trying times they could speed run you guys back in.
- I don't see it happening anytime soon. To rejoin, they woukd have to accept all the new rules, one of them is adopting the Euro as currency. I'm not sure the English voters would be willing to abandon the Pound. Scottish, Welsh an Irish, maybe.
  
  Perhaps after people start starving? Although the British are know for stoic acceptance of suffering....hmmm....maybe.
  
  There's more to just losing the pound than cultural attachment (though that's very real) it would also limit the UK's ability to dictate their monetary policy. Mind you ~25% of the EU don't use the Euro, not least of which is Denmark which has a similar opt out to what the UK used to have.
- Not that I wouldn't welcome UK back (under equal conditions to all new-joiners, of course), speed-running is not something EU is capable of. Nor is UK. They will not like having to accept the same deal everyone else has to when they had a lot of exceptions for everything. It will take ages before some kind of agreement is reached.
  
  Not to mention, there's at least one member state that will obstruct anything beneficial because the current dictator benefits from the chaos.

I'm an American and I don't want to buy our chicken either.

The obnoxious thing is that most US chicken isn't even chlorine washed. We could easily just try to make a deal on air chilled chicken, which is actually a high quality American product, but that's not what Trump is interested in. He doesn't actually care about trade or American farmers - he just wants to make people shovel shit, because to him, a "deal" is all about forced compliance rather than mutual respect and compromise.

I'd rather go out of my way to avoid buying anything from the US, which is exactly what I have started doing.
- Especially food related stuff. Just look at the people who consume it.

Yuck. Even if I ignored economy, Trump and everything political, US food is pure shit compared to European food.

who the FUCK would buy chicken from the US? if you want chicken you buy it from japan where you can eat it raw if you wanted to.

Probably trying to make a buck off blighted fetid fowl.
[T]he U.S. discards nearly 60 million tons—or 120 billion pounds—of food annually, amounting to about 40% of the national food supply. This equates to 325 pounds of waste per person, or the equivalent of each American throwing away 975 average-sized apples every year. Alarmingly, food waste is the largest component of municipal solid waste in landfills, making up 22% of the total. The environmental cost is staggering, with food waste generating methane emissions that significantly contribute to climate change. - forbes link from jan '25
In case anyone was wondering, signs of avian flu at the market: bloody legs; slimy, filmy meat.
- After reading the article, I'm left wondering how US food waste breaks down between originating from individual households vs grocery retailers, commercial retail food/restaurants and ag suppliers.
  It's been a while, but I remember reading about how there's little incentive (maybe it's even prohibited?) for retailers to send reject and expiring food to food banks instead of throwing it out. I feel like this should be more of a concern considering the demand to food banks is probably going to increase rapidly while funding and donations will likely decrease with the current economic turmoil.
  I suspect we could curb a significant amount of food waste by creating a pathway to divert food waste instead of disposing it outright. Of course, such pathway would need to meet food safety standards while providing a clear regulatory framework to address liability and logistical aspects to make it more profitable to divert vs dispose.
  Anyone from outside of the shithole have any input on how this works in your country?
  
  I'm in Canada and recently our food banks (at least in my area) have been getting huge donations of all the unsold American produce.

He's doing the same shit with Canada and milk. American "milk" doesn't even qualify as milk in Canada - has too many other ingredients like BGH and steroids and shit. But he wants us to buy his shitty undrinkable swill instead of buying our own hign quality dairy. No thanks!

Trump trying to expand the US sewer to the world.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm supporting the idea that the UK ignore Trump's ultimatum. Like "Oh no, you're saying we have to listen to your demands or be tarriffed? Anyways..."

Watch out for the UK government removing the requirement for Country Of Origin labelling on food. If even a whiff of it stinks up your nostrils then chlorinated US chicken will surely follow.

If you accept, there's no guarantee he won't change the deal later. He's a chud.

The Tyson lobby sends their regards.

Look guys, we know y'all eat beans on toast and spotted dick, be a good sport and take some of this chemically tainted chicken off our hands
- Hey now, beans on toast is a kingly feast! Grate some cheese on top... Pure comfort 😁

Please don't I need my quorn roarsomes and it'd just make people pivot to eating all my quorn roarsomes

Europe, tariffs and chicken, this brings some deja vu

British food is bad enough. Don't make them use are flavor-less chickens as well.

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