Hell Nah!

Nationalize golf courses, make them parklands.
- NO! Make them public housing as most golf courses are in nicer towns
  
  There's already plenty of urban sprawl. We need more natural areas. Seize the houses of people who own multiple and make them public housing instead.
- Then where will we dump all the herbicides?
- Trump will think he owns them then all then.

Another pro communism meme

Communism is when no golf
- Nolf
  
  It was fun, but NOLF 2 was better.

I've got just the place for low-cost housing. I have solved this problem. I know where we can build housing for the homeless: golf courses! It's perfect! Just what we need. Plenty of good land, in nice neighborhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer amongst themselves. I am getting tired, really getting tired, of these golfing removed in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless! Golfing is a arrogant, elitist game which takes up entirely too much room in this country. Too much room' in this country! It is an arrogant game on its very design alone, just the design of the game speaks of arrogance. Think of how big a golf course is - the ball is that fucking big! What do these pin-headed pricks need with all that land?! There are over seventeen thousand golf courses in America, they average over one hundred and fifty acres a piece - that's three million plus acres, four thousand, eight hundred and twenty square miles - you could build two Rhode Islands and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist, there's another thing; the only blacks you'll find at country clubs are carrying trays. And a boring game. A boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck! And a mindless game, mindless. Think of the intellect it must take, to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then, walking after it! And then, hitting it again! I say pick it up asshole, you're lucky you found the fucking thing! Put it in your pocket and go home, you're a winner! You've found it! No chance of that happening. Dork-o in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich removed play miniature golf! Let them fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so! See if there's any real skill among these people. Now I know there are some people who play golf who don't consider themselves rich. FUCK 'EM! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist passtime.
-George Carlin
George Carlin on Golf-Youtube
- Maybe golf is where Trump picked up his hatred of windmills.
  
  Is that you Q?

Good? It's a huge waste of land and resources.

Back in the day they were saying "don't let the terrorists win"
Now it's communists?
Are there any real communists left in the world?
The only existing communist states left in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea (DPRK).
...and even these states do not claim to have achieved communism in their countries but are supposedly building and working toward its establishment.
China is the most capitalist communist country I've ever seen
- China is just capitalism with extra spicy corruption.
  
  China is a fascist economy without the extreme jingoism
- The fear of communists came way before the fear of terrorists.
  
  It's retro fear.
  
  So like, a long-ass time ago, a populist movement started overthrowing capitalist economies or monarchies and ever since then, anyone who wants to get a lot of money from everyone else has been deathly terrified of the thing. Never mind it never really worked. Never mind if it DID work, you wouldn't need all that money.
  It's always just people who really want to feel special worried that something is going to make them feel less special. Usually it's something sexual like insecurity about their dicks or other men banging their girls. (No really, almost every authoritarian/fascist movement has started with sexually insecure men, this has been studied.)
  So this all really boils down to some people saying we can all level the field so everyone is equal and have the same opportunities, and the dudes who know they can never feel equal to others raging against the very notion because they are really, really insecure about but obsessed with the dicks of other men.
  As a result you have the suffering of billions of people. I wish I could make it make sense.
  
  The threat of communism is far more real to empire which is the by far the worst terrorist.
- China has a stock market and investment banks
  
  Were you under the impression anyone thinks China is communist?
- Are there any real communists left in the world?
  It's arguable if there ever really were any. Hasn't been an actual communist nation.
  But it sure makes a handy-dandy villain when anyone suggests implementing socialist plans that may take even a shaving of a dime from hungry corporations who need perpetual growth.
  
  Hasn’t been an actual communist nation.
  Communism is directly incompatible with the violent hierarchy of states.
- China is not communist.
- The only existing communist states left in the world are in China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea (DPRK).
  None of these places are communist.
  There are many actual commies/leftists but we're completely attacked and obscured by the hegemonic right-wing ideologies (eg. liberalism, fascism, etc.).

Unironically yes. Fuck golf
- Seriously. SO much land for a few old white pricks. And there are like no rules, can use any balls, any clubs, etc. imagine if baseball had no rules and you could use a bat made of anything. Or your own ball when you pitch. Wtf. Also expensive as fuck for no reason than gatekeeping it.
  
  I don't know what the fuck you're on but there are rules in golf dude. This comment is as bad as the actual post

Can we make golf less bad? Like, public courses, make it so that the grass isn't some perfect standard import grass. Make it local even if it's "less than ideal" for the game. Desert courses with no grass. I dunno
- So, disc golf?
  
  What about disc golf, but with balls? Ball golf?
  
  Came here for that
- "good" courses exist. They are just quite rare
  In my area there are at least 2 courses that have very reasonable member fees (not more than other sports clubs) where things like golf clubs and balls renting is included if you need them. Plus all kinds of free weekends
  They are also not targeted to rich snobs. So you can actually meet people there without being looked down upon
  As for the course itself: they are located in area that are not really suitable for things like apartment development etc. And they take care of the more wild parts of nature (making sure that some area are completely off limits during nesting season due example)
  Does it have an impact compared to it not being there? Sure. But they do a lot for the surrounding, and it gets people into nature that otherwise probably wouldn't
  All the courses in the middle of cities or climates that don't naturally support a course can go fuck themselves, though
- My hometown has a public mini golf course. It scales really well, and it coexists with a forest.
- Just leave sheep out to maintain the course. Isn't that how it was originally?

Dammit, don't make me support communism now.
Is there another way to get rid of golf?
- Climate change!
  
  They would just build climate-controlled domes.
- Dammit, don’t make me support communism now.
  Why not? What is so appealing about the oppressive hierarchies of capitalism? Literally destroying the planet...
  I don't think communism is perfect or even deserving of much loyalty, but anti-capitalism is the only reasonable position.
  
  Unbridled capitalism is very bad indeed, but the basics of it aren't bad. It can generate a lot of wealth through freedom. If you properly tax that wealth (top level brackets go 90-100%) then you have an enormous budget for a socialist framework that gives you anything from free healthcare to free education to free basic housing for everyone, etc.
  Communism has a huge amount of issues that simply makes it impractical. You need to remove a lot of freedoms, everything requires a huge burocracy, you'll always (no exceptions in history) end up having to murder all your opponents and anyone who doesn't want to fall in line... Communism is nice on paper but in the real world there hasn't been a single example where it didn't cause untold suffering
  I'll go with the former, thank you.
  And again, yeah, capitalism as in the US is a shit show that needs to die in a fire, but come on, be realistic here for a second, capitalism looks shit in places like the US but if used well, it could generate heaven on earth for everyone

Fuck, don't threaten me with a good time.

Oh no! What will men in loveless marriages do?
- There's always fishing
  
  Nah man if you're doing catch and release you gotta put a pointy hook through their lips then reverse drown them for a minute or two. Fishing's out. Loveless marriage men need to play chess in the park.
  
  Under communism you need to catch fish for everyone though!!

Good. Fuck golf.
(Mini golf excluded)
- How is your feeling towards disc golf? It still required a large amount of area, but the grass doesn't have to be perfectly cut, and the sport allows a lot more trees and plants - in fact it requires a lot more vegetation to make an interesting course.
  
  I've seen a disc golf course be integrated into a local park, without any damage to nature. If only more sports could be this eco-friendly.
  
  Also they're usually open to the public, non-exclusive, etc.

So we could win twice?

My local golf course regularly floods and is unusable by anything other than ducks for months at a time.
So capitalism isn't exactly doing the game any favours either.

Fuck golf. George Carlin was right. And that's just the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8
- George Carlin died too fucking young.

For this reason alone...

They recently closed a course near me and now they've stripped out all the trees and are building a 300 acre development of McMansions. The course was also a home to deer and wild turkey, several stands of nice old hardwoods, some ponds with ducks and geese. Be careful what you wish for.

I'd be okay with that. Golf courses offend me. So much land wasted that could be put to better uses...like landfills, or cemeteries for the indigent, or nuclear waste storage. (Or housing, or growing food.)

Promise?

Sure would be a lot of water and land reclaimed for the public.

Based honestly

I mean if communism is what it'll take to get rid of golf I figure the ends justify the means.

If we allow the republicans to win, climate change will be so out of control the game of golf will be played in sand dunes.
- Watch Republicans wage water wars in order to keep watering their lawns.
- We will all be dead

Golf is a game rich men play when they are bored playing games with our lives.
Turn every golf course into income based housing.
Dig up every cemetery and turn them into housing.
Quit wasting earth on rich people.
There’s way more of us than them. wtf are we doing
- I don't play golf but I know people that do and I can assure you none of them are even remotely rich (although most are white men)
  The problems we have with housing shortages and climate change won't be solved even if you get rid of every golf course in America.
  
  Living in a city without enough housing and seeing golf courses that are unused most of the hours of the day taking up huge swaths of land in the middle of my city feels like a “fuck you” to the poors.
  
  Improvement isn’t easy and can’t be achieved in one step. It can only be achieved one step at a time.

It's hammer time then.

I was hoping American football but I'll take this. Seems like a fair trade.

Yes.

Don't tempt me.

Viva la Revolution!!

We're speed running into a time where Facebook memes are just incoherent noise.
- that's just internet dementia

So this is pro-communist propaganda? I’m here for it. No more retro brutalist Soviet style posters, We’ve moved into the era of mid-2000s photoshop.

This is dope.

Okay deal
- WE HAD A DEAL!!

Is it possible that is just conservative shitposting? Even our most of our extreme lefties understand irony and have a bit of self-awareness making inside jokes similar to this. We've also seen conservatives "eat the onion" enough on joke memes. We should consider that we may be on the other end the joke on this one not thinking they're serious with this meme.
- A lot of people are really, really fucking naive how stupid the bulk of the population is. And how there is always a segment even less cognitive.
  And I get it, you don't want to believe how bad it is. The brain protects you from cognitive hazards. When I realized it well into adulthood I wept, I despaired because I finally understood just how bad it really is. I can't describe it, you have to go on this journey yourself, and I feel bad for you if you find it, because it's one of the blackest pills to swallow.
- Or just sarcasm.
- Have you met them in real life? Even if it made as satire, it's being passed around by people who don't realize it.
  
  I'm acknowledging the possibility we maybe the people passing it around who don't realize it.
  I get your point that there are likely extremist on their side that believe its the gods truth or whatever, but we've got our own satire on our side and our extremists and I'm sure there is a segment of them that believe everything (or every meme) we produce.
  I want to make sure we don't lose our own self awareness in how we understand them.
- They're right. Golf is a fucked up sport based on extreme privilege and land theft. There are many many reasons why the land should be repurposed.
  Maybe it's not a "core" leftist issue but it's a real issue.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8
  
  Maybe it’s not a “core” leftist issue but it’s a real issue.
  Thats my point. Its so far down the list, you'd have to find leftist extremists that would put it at the top of their list. The meme is painting it that its a mainstream left issue where it isn't, and I think the conservatives that made it know that too and that could be their joke. As in, there's a kernel of truth to it, but only that. Without the kernel of truth the joke wouldn't be funny.

More room for low cost housing

I mean sort of, proper land reform would destroy a ton of golf courses, probably even most of them but I'm sure there's plenty that, saving for the excessive water use, are otherwise ok. Besides, I think we're past having to take up half the real estate of scenic western Nebraska for a game that while I myself enjoy can probably also be enjoyed in more compact ways without major sacrifices.