There is now !fediverse@piefed.social, as an alternative to the LW version

Still a bit early to announce it on !communitypromo@lemmy.ca , but I thought it was worth sharing here.
Note that I had to use my alts to federate it to most instances, as Lemmy-federate doesn't support Piefed (or at least, Piefed.social isn't enrolled)
Thank you @Snoopy@piefed.social !

Nice!

I still have not tried PieFed yet but I always find myself cheering it on whenever I see it.
- It has great potential

There is also:
!fediverse@lemmy.ml
!fediverse@midwest.social
!fediverse@lemmy.zip
I'm not too keen on Piefed because it's written in Python, which is multiple times less than Rust (what Lemmy is written in) for a server back-end application. It just seems like a waste of electricity or adding more carbon to the atmosphere than it should, for a widely-used server application.
Edit: "less [performant]" - missed a word there.
- I've come off seeing a lot of people express dissent in a rather acidic manner, so I just appreciate that you have stated an opposing view in a way that is informative, and a lot less "anyone who disagrees is [bad thing]", "I will say that anyone who approves of [thing I don't] masturbates to it as a way to be hurtful and insulting", "you disagree? I will position you as overly emotional and myself as the realist by saying 'Cope'", etc.
  You've made me curious about various programming languages' efficiency, specifically in how choice of language might affect resource consumption. Not just CPU cycles but carbon and electricity. And I'm actually going to look into it instead of feeling put off enough by vitriol that I just wash my hands of the entire disagreement and walk away. +1, this is how you disagree online.
  Yes, I may be venting my feelings about seeing too many people being mean online.
  
  That was a nice comment
  
  Thanks for your thoughtful reply! I feel similarly about mean replies online, which is why I usually try not to contribute to that trend. If nothing else, I at least try not to escalate arguments.
  Regarding programming languages' efficiency, it's a pretty interesting topic to consider in this time of climate change. There can be trade-offs like for example in the case of Python vs. Rust, while you gain a lot in terms of performance and resource utilization with Rust, you lose a lot in terms of development speed, from what I understand (I have not programmed with Rust yet, nor any large projects with Python). I hope that more programmers begin to consider these factors when picking a language to develop with.
  Take care.
- Lemmy.ml: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
  midwest.social seems inactive
  lemmy.zip only has one moderator
  What is your stance on Mbin?
  
  I didn't look at the details of those three communities before posting them. I was just pointing out what I had found on a search. I don't mind lemmy.ml. and prefer it over lemmy.world, but I can understand that some people don't like .ml. I'm glad that you and others are creating alternatives to .world communities anyway.
  I figure that Mbin is not too bad, since PHP seems to be quite a bit faster than Python too.

Alright, so I just learned about !fediverse@forum.wedistribute.org. It's a NodeBB instance run by the WeDistribute team, led by @deadsuperhero@lemmy.world and it can interoperate with Lemmy and Mastodon and the mbin family of software.
Can we agree that it is a better fit than any of the existing alternatives?
- Does it work for your instance? My local version of https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/fediverse@forum.wedistribute.org isn't up to date
  I tried to fetch the latest post https://forum.wedistribute.org/topic/0c196ca4-cc2e-41be-92d5-5b29ef678565/hands-on-with-ghost-s-new-activitypub-beta but that didn't work
  
  Looks like everything worked fine except for pulling posts via the search API.
  If you want to direct the efforts to move there I'd join you.

great, now I'm subscribed to 4 communities called "fediverse" :D (the one you linked to and the ones on lemmy.ml, lemmy.world and lemmy.zip)
- lemmy.zip
  I was hoping to get that one to become the LW alternative, but after the mod asked me to become a mod and I declined, but suggested to create a meta post to call for more mods, they told me they prefer to not have meta posts on that community.
  Well, fine, you make the rules, I guess I'll post somewhere else.
  Note that this was also why !globalnews@lemmy.zip and !world@quokk.au never consolidated, the mods of both communities just wanted to keep theirs
  
  @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat , IIRC at some point you volunteered to join the mod team of !globalnews@lemmy.zip , did that ever went anywhere?
  
  they told me they prefer to not have meta posts on that community
  I hope you dragged them into one of your beloved drama communities for that. The nerve of some people to have a disagreement with you.

The little community that @deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml set up, keeps growing
- !fediverse@lemmy.ml is pretty much completely shadowed by !fediverse@lemmy.world today
  
  But it doesn't take away from the fact that it all started thanks to Sean

@FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online I don't have an alt on your instance so feel free to subscribe if you like the idea
Same for @Coelacanth@feddit.nu and @CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al
- subscribe if you like the idea
  Thanks for the tag, I've added it to our feed.
  I don't have an alt on your instance
  Seems easy enough to remedy 😎
  
  Nice!
  I might at some point ha ha 😄
- Can you explain like I'm 5?
  
  Communities are only visible on another instance (let's take lazysoci.al in this case) if at least one person on lazy social subscribes to the community
  The general way to solve this is to use https://lemmy-federate.com/ , that uses bots on a lot of instances to subscribe to remote communities and make sure they are visible. But lemmy-federate doesn't work with Piefed.social, the instance used for this community.
  However, it still seems to work, so I guess someone did subscribe: https://lazysoci.al/c/fediverse@piefed.social 😄

All this shuffling around for circumstantial reasons gets tiring and confusing.
Instead of spending all this time and energy trying to coordinate large-scale movements it would be a lot easier to just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.
- Feel free to stay on LW if you prefer
  I prefer to have a community where aussie.zone doesn't have a 3 days delay
  just create a separate instance to be the home of the communities and have a neutral ground.
  Who manages that instance? How do you prevent power tripping?
  
  I prefer to have a community where aussie.zone doesn’t have a 3 days delay
  Yeah, a community on a topic-specific instances would never cause that, because it would only be a small number of activities.
  Who manages that instance?
  You. You can go to elest.io and create your own instance.
  If you worry about costs, I'll be sure to contribute with a few cents per month. ;)
  How do you prevent power tripping?
  How do you prevent power tripping in the community you want to move to?

@Zagorath@aussie.zone FYI