Trump says US will 'go as far as we have to' to get control of Greenland

He just announced foreign vehicle tariffs and there is a huge scandal brewing around the Signal thing. If the media stays on the Signal leak it could become a Watergate-sized problem.
So, Trump hit the "distract them with Greenland" button. He couldn't use the "distract them with Canada is a state" button again, he used that one for the Social Security thing last week.
- I feel like if Watergate happened half the country and most of Congress would find some way of justifying it and no one would even remember it happened a week later because something else equally insane would come up.
  
  Watergate is such a tiny thing in comparison to what tiny hands has done. He has brought a mob to the capital to overthrow the government. Now he is just destroying the government from inside.
- I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”
  Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.
  The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.
  
  Every time an American claims something is just a distraction I get more annoyed. Threats of invading sovereign nations is not just a distraction. It’s pretty fucking alarming as a citizen of one of those nations and the dismissal of it is offensive
  
  It's all crazy talk until the flights of American troops and equipment start landing for an occupation force.
  Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.
  
  Believe me, I see the danger. I harbor no illusions that they wouldn't go that far or that it's just a distraction. Nothing is just a distraction, everything they say is an admission. I guess my point was Americans need to keep their eyes on this Signal thing because of how it could blow up but Trump knows how to distract so this week it's Greenland, and next time it will be Canada again. When they have the power and the courts are nutted, then it won't be a distraction but an action.
  If they push this signal thing it just might crack. Then maybe set them back a few months or a year. Then we can have the midterms and maybe just maybe get a handle on some of this shit.
  I have had 4 double shots of espresso since lunch so I am rambling lol good luck homie everyone is going to need it.
  
  I remember talking to this dude before Russia invaded Ukraine. He said Russia brought all the troops to the border for a military training exercise. I asked him where he learned that. He told me Russian state media... It's amazing how gullible people are. Like truly so innocent and trusting.
  
  He's 100% serious and also using it as a distraction. Both things are true. For some reason everyone cares about the signal leak and only about half of us care about invading Greenland, or rendering immigrants to a slave prison.
  Signal is a weakness and Greenland is an attempt at distraction. He fully intends to invade, but distraction is why he's talking about it right now.
- He's flooded the zone with shit to the point that we can't focus on any of it with the attention it deserves.
- Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?
  
  Nowhere in there did I say it would bring down Trump. If it gets the media traction that it should get, it could split the Republican base enough to disrupt the Right's hold on the House and Senate in November. I don't think it will, though. The Greenland distraction has pretty much drowned it out. JD is over there going hard for his daddy, and we are not even through the weekend yet. As the old man said, "We will see."

Trump and the Trump administration are behaving like assholes all over the world.
USA has never been so universally unpopular.
Flight passangers from Canada to USA are down 70%.
Tesla sales in Europe are down 50%.
The boycotts have begun, and numbers like these may be common for 2025.
Trump will cost many jobs in USA, and increased inflation, and it seems an economic downturn too.
- Ok but you missed the part that the libs are mad.

Thinking about why the US is so keen on Greenland: It's only relevant for them if they intend to make enemies out of the EU, because they already have all the access they need. But only as long as they are allied with Europe.
It's clear where this is headed. Russia is not the only reason why Europe is rearming.
- He's planning to withdraw from NATO. Otherwise it makes no sense. USA already has more or less free access to build any military base they want there
  
  USA already has more or less free access to build any military base they want there
  Which makes it extra stupid that Trump is demanding that he own Greenland for security reasons. The Americans can already expand their base there whenever they want.
  
  They are going to cut the map up ww2 style, US gets the americas with green land and China and Russia split the rest. Russia takes Europe, and China gets the pacific. All the rest will dissapear. They may find a middle east partner for that region, and then exploit Africa.
- The plan is easy:
  USA take Canada, greenland and everything up to Panama for Security Reason.
  Russia take back some part of Europe because they are talking Russian.
  China take South Korea with North Korea and Taiwan because it’s China anyway...
  Easy plan for megalo-dictators
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_geography_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four
  Inches closer every day
- why the US is so keen on Greenland
  Testing the invasion waters with something most EUs will not want to risk their lives over, and then he doesn't need to justify what he has on his airbase there.
- That is also why he wants an ICBM defense mesh, because realistically that's the only chance Europe has to cripple us in a fight.
  
  Hardly. There are many ways to "cripple" the US without need to resort to a simple-minded military slugfest.
  They could act to support Trump's next reelection bid, for example. That'd be more devastating to American power than a nuke.

Goddamn we suck so hard right now.
- Don't even have to ask if we are the baddies
  
  Yeah, I think that's one of the scariest things. Previous presidents have done a lot of terrible things, but there's always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us "the right thing".
  The US's latest bunch of clown have openly hateful and dishonest language, without any sense of shame. I don't even think we've seen the beginning of the level of cruelty a country can achieve when it suddenly abandons any rule of law or accountability.

These fascists need to dangle 🥰

I can’t believe so many people voted for this deranged game show host.

All of a sudden the conservative rhetoric is that indigenous Greenlanders are mistreated by the Danes and that’s unfair; they need America’s help.
- That's such transparently stupid bullshit. If they believed that they'd start by helping indigenous Americans. It sickens me that so many people are idiotic enough to either believe this or just not care.
  
  It’s sickening and fucking enraging. It puts my mind for a spin.
- I wonder how much of Regressive rhetoric and propaganda comes straight out of the heritage foundation. Where is the epicenter of the cancer?

I don't want Greenland, I just want you to stop bombing kids and work on our Healthcare. Why on the fuck are you even looking at Greenland????
- Best I can do is a Central American shooting war.

Please, Europe, just take this as a declaration war and attack the US now to nip this in the bud.
The sooner this child is stopped, the sooner the world can improve.
- The worst part is that he is completely unhinged and I can easily imagine launching some nuclear nukes towards Europe.
  
  And americans will cheer him on with their fat fists in the air.
- This is definitely a 'spare the rod, should the child' situation. We need a spanking!
- Kind of the whole point of nuclear dissuasion is that we are not, in fact, going to ever do that. And ignoring the existence of nukes (lol), attacking the US on their hometurf is such a monumentally stupid idea people still wonder what went through the Japanese High Command's mind 80 years ago.
  Stop asking Europe for help, because you're not getting it. You've alienated your allies and broken your democracy beyond repair. Either use that 2nd amendment of yours to the fullest extent of its spirit or STFU with the "pwease stop him we're scawed :(((" rhetoric. We have way more reasons to be scared because we don't live next door to white cishet male Americans to shield us from his madness. Stop with the victim blaming. Either you stop this child or he starts a war with your assent.
  
  If Trump was only an America problem, I would say the same thing you are saying.
  I'm fine if the world attacks the US just enough so that Trump recedes to only the US.
  What I am saying is that if Trump is making threats to the world, the world should take it seriously and deal with it now instead of letting him push boundaries without repercussions. His threats are going to just get bigger and hurt more people than when the threats are smaller.
  The world needs to be on guard and protect itself.
- You don’t mean this, do you? The EU attacking the military on which their individual armies depend, the greatest military of the largest economy on earth, would be incomprehensibly stupid. It’s utter fantasy, anyway. A dystopian fantasy that would involve more Europeans dying than Americans, that is if it wouldn’t devolve into nuclear war.
  EDIT: not sure why I’m being downvoted for commenting on a fantasy of violence. I don’t think „please start World War III” is fun banter, sorry.

Try as I may to avoid this absurd political reality I find myself in, I am continuously dumbfounded by these headlines. I have to check everytime if the post is an Onion article.
- The Onion is gonna go bankrupt at this rate. I just imagine the editors coming up with stories and headlines, only to crumple and toss them in the trash whenever Trump holds a press conference.
  
  The Dutch equivalent of The Onion actually send a cease and desist letter to one of our ministers, because they can't compete with the shit she is saying (this woman gives Trump's government a run for their money in terms of both evilness and incompetence)
  
  I picture a sign at Onion HQ.
  It has been 0 0 3 days since we were accidentally factual news.
  
  Iirc during his first period the Onion actually just wrote factual articles about Trump, stating that they could not make up content to compete with reality
- The Onion needs to start publishing articles that discuss trump doing really positive things.
  “Trump pledges to increase taxes on billionaires and eliminate their tax loopholes”
  “Trump apologizes for renaming the Gulf of Mexico, pledges to undo damage”
  “Trump calls on the senate to pass bill that criminalizes insider trading in congress”
  “Trump removes all foreign tariffs, making a plea to restore trade deals with the US”
  “Trump signed an executive order to forgive all student debt”
  Now THAT would be some serious satire.
  
  I think you cracked the code. I would have to take a double check because I would eat that onion. 😂

Can this fucker ever say anything that actually means what he says. I swear to fuck, every fucking thing out of this asses mouth is something that can be taken however he wants it. I understand WHY he does it that way but fuck am I tired of it. Its been barely two months. Holy fuck.
- It seems you still have a lot of fucks to give. I’m tired of it too. Some days I’m all out of fucks.

a strange part of me wants to see this go as badly as possible because that's how much I hate Donald Trump and all of the Americans who voted for him and the ones who didn't vote. but that's me being an angry psychopath right? I shouldn't feel this way or want these things. they're really bad
- I have full confidence that the US Military could take Greenland, I don't have confidence that the US could deal with the international fallout that would come from it.
  
  That depends. Has Russia started a land war across the entire Eastern front at the same time?
  Then it might be a bit tough for Europe to do anything about Greenland. It's almost like the whole 'we need to take Canada' rhetoric is pre-emptive, knowing Canada would be the most dangerous remaining opponent to such a plan, should Europe be busy... for some reason. Take Canada and Greenland at roughly the same time. Tie them down while Europe is busy. The US ends up owning Greenland. And, if things fall out wrong, Canada, too - though it might not be a primary goal.
  From that point, Russia and the US divide Europe between them.
  Is this an insane plan? Yep. Would it work? Doubtful. Is it the potential thinking of the fascist dickheads in charge, despite that? I suspect so.
  
  yes
- I'm in a similar boat. I hate that these people have turned me into someone who has such disdain and hatred for individuals. I hate that they've made me into someone who wakes up everyday with a deep-seated desire to read about their deaths.
  I fucking hate it. I don't want to be that person.
  
  I've developed misanthropic tendencies over the last couple of years.
  I find this lyric sums it up pretty well
  "I used to see beauty in people But now I see muscle and bones"
  Cruel World by Phantogram
- I would like to believe not that the worst happens to the USA, because of the damage that could do globally. But, I do hope that if Trump tried to take Greenland unprovoked that the citizens would not stand for it.
  A hope that is quickly dwindling...
  
  there's nothing that makes me think that anyone would stop him. The entire path of the country would simply shift indefinitely, as per the principles of democracy
- It's all fun and games unless you're in the pointy end of the stick

So what he’s telling us is that he’s wanting to fight a war on two fronts: one from within and one from without. I see. Very well then. He’s made his bed.

Nice try, Donvict. You and your coward yes-men have their incompetence signal exposed and the distractions aren't working anymore. Please resign! We need Republican Senators to grow a spine, be pro-USA, not tolerate incompetent national security, and impeach this loser.

When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?
- While Hedgeseth runs the Pentagon? Never.
- They're on board with him. Invasions create job security for them. The military won't care until they're told to fire on Americans, and even then a large part won't care, as long as they're firing on the "wrong" kind of people.
  There is no way this lunacy ends in a civil arrest.
- If he actually orders an invasion of Greenland I'd put the odds at around 12%. My guess is around 60% the military will refuse to carry out the order (it would be after all in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless congress approves), then 80% chance Trump will back down. Of course that's if he gives the order, my guess of that is around 30%, reducing the odds of a greenland-related coup to around 4%. In reality the most likely path is that once the military explains to Trump that they want congressional approval, he'll lose interest and go on to scaring us some other way.
- Complicity tends to be the norm until things get really bad.

Come on UK. We need a Bond. James Luigi Bond to right this ship.

I wonder if Americans will wake up and start to push back when they and their families start dying for this stuff. Taking over other countries means death and not just to those who are being taken over.
- It took soldiers freezing and dying in Stalingrad to realize Hitler didn't care about them.
- Push back how?
  
  You lack imagination.
  
  By playing a wholllllle lot of Minecraft ;)

Im out of the loop on this. Why does the US want greenland?
- Whole lotta minerals that will get a lot easier to exploite as the planet warms.
  
  Mining minerals to turn into phones so I can read about how bad of an ecological impact it is to mine minerals to turn into phones.
- Same reason he just cut Australia out of an illegal deep sea mining contract and why he’ll cut the western saharans out of their homeland and take the minerals from Morocco.
  Cause he’s starting a super edgelord team of billionaires who’s trying to stack the deck for the next 200 years.
- his bois require more minerals

The Orange Nazi is coming for you. Prepare for the worst.

I wish Trump and his people to really go as far as they have to....And to stay there. Evena bit farther, I won't complain
- Instead of building a wall, they should build a dome around their country
  
  May I please leave before they seal themselves in? Please?
  I warned this for years and no one listened. I voted and lost. May I leave?

Nah bone spurs!