Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com Viking_Hippie @lemmy.dbzer0.com 11h ago

Jordan Lund at it again

Context:

The article in question was well sourced, factually accurate, and written by a well-renowned author and journalist whose work appears elsewhere too, regardless of which outlet published it.

Nonetheless, Jordan Lund is once again blindly trusting a pro-zionist conservative outlet masquerading as a bias and fact checker that nothing from anywhere that criticizes the fascist apartheid regime can be reliable 🤦

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Christ on a bike.

I have a hard time taking seriously anything or anyone who says “Far-Left Biased” (esp. with that capitalization) unironically.

Lazy PTB on the grounds of (maybe mindlessly) parroting Fox News rhetoric instead of researching themselves.
- Far left = center left
  
  Just shift every bias check result to the right a bunch and its correct lol
  
  How dare you be anti-genocide, you extremist?!1!?? /s
But anyone who isn't a moron knows that MBFC is an incredibly biased source...... Right?

Literally they make it so obvious
- They think that because it claims to be accurate, therefore it is. No fact checking of themselves, no matter how it is completely wrong and treats liberal media as far left, and fox news are center right, it's the godsend for the mods to remove anything they dislike.
- Well there’s a lot of morons on Lemmy.
  
  Yes, but I forgive all of you for disagreeing with me sometimes. I can't expect perfection.
  
  Just obedience when the revolution kicks off.
Oh i just realized that stupid bias check bot has been gone for a while. Everyone hated it so i guess it was killed or blocked at some point? Anyone know the story?
- Personally I haven't seen it for ages because I blocked it, but if I was to guess, the mods finally relented to the overwhelming majority? 🤷
  
  They held a vote after insisting for ages that it was a ‘small minority’ of users that had a problem with it. It wasn’t 90/10, but it wasn’t 50/50 either.
  
  Oh, and they only held the vote after jordanlund claimed he would get demodded by the admins if he removed the bot. And when someone pinged an admin they said they had no idea how he got that impression, lol.
- There was a public vote on whether to eliminate it or not from the .world news and politics communities, and the vote to remove won, thankfully!
We should really start those dashboards of power tripping per mod

As usual

!world@quokk.au

!globalnews@lemmy.zip
- I'm all for the increased federation of news from .world and .ml to limit the censorship the mod teams enable when it doesn't paint America or Russia as the perfect golden cows.
TIL Mint Press News.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

MintPress News supported former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, and the governments of Russia and Iran.[3][4]

The editor had investors, who Muhawesh claimed were "retired businesspeople", but she would not name them

Soon afterward, Brian Lambert of MinnPost wrote an article following up on Burke's challenge to find out where MintPress's money came from. He reported that emails to them went unanswered, their phone was disconnected, and the original office address in Plymouth, Minnesota, "haven't been valid in well over a year". While MintPress listed 20 of its writers, Lambert wrote it did not indicate where the money was "coming from to pay any of these people".[16]

MintPress News has reposted content from Russian state media outlets RT and Sputnik,[25][26] and is listed as a "partner" of PeaceData, a Russian fake news site run by the Internet Research Agency.[27][28][29] A report from New Knowledge includes MintPress News as part of the "Russian web of disinformation,"[30][31] and the site has published fake authors attributed to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence agency.[32] MintPress News defended Russia's invasion of Crimea, claiming Ukraine's post-revolution government was "illegitimate".[33]

Sounds like YDI. MBFC is horrible of course, but it sounds like in this case they got it right (somehow focusing in one of the only things Mint Press gets right, being "anti-Israel", presumably as a performative cover so they'll fit in better among other general left wing news. Which of course triggered MBFC, which is part of the whole reason why it's clever for them to include a whole bunch of "Israel's the bad guys" in among the "Russia's the good guys.")
- You can follow sources on mint press. It's work and I don't read every article from there or from there. It's not rocket science, just work and what I've read had checked out.
  
  What?
  
  Did something I said sound like "the problem is that it's rocket science"? I feel like your message was intended to respond to someone else or something. The problem is that it's Russian propaganda, not that you "can't follow sources" or whatever.
- With those standards basically all mainstream US media should be banned for publishing Israeli and US propaganda that defends their genocide on the Palestinians
We already know legacy media is heavily biased because it's owned by the same handful of businesses. And I understand questionable sources such as Breitbart being removed. Yet here we are.
I lack any context but if the rule is against questionable sources and a mod is able to document that the source is questionable then surely there other news outlets are reporting on that too that you can use. Unless there’s a big conspiracy against that.
- No conspiracy required. The Celtic fans' antifascist and pro-Palestinian position is not news, so I see no reason to expect non-left outlets to report an equivalent opinion piece. In fact, this second image was reported in news 9 years ago^[1].
  
  That said, Manufacturing Consent is an excellent introduction to why mass media bias has emerged.
His shameless bias has been throughly exposed ... Block the politics and news communities on world folks...

Deny the parasite engagement, let him create a Zionist echo chamber lol
- If you think I'm zionist when my personal opinion is Israel needs to be militarily forced into a two state solution then I'm doing my job correctly.
This is the mod who shielded UniversalMonk for months and only banned them once like 1000 people loudly harped on it for weeks. Fuck that guy
- Nobody shielded me. People don't get banned just because "1000 people" harp on it. If the person follows the rules of the community, then they should be allowed to stay.
  
  Also, about the OP's example. He deserved it. Because mint press sucks. But talking about me, in this thread if off topic. I had nothing to do with this OP.
PTB, not a shocker.
Jhrodfun is my fasvorite rapper
YDI. Mint press sucks.

Also, ya know, you guys can stop talking about me in this thread now. I'm not the mod that OP is talking about. I had nothing to do with it. Thanks! :)
MintPress News?

Yeah. YDI.
- Hey, I agree with you for once! OP deserved it.
YDI, you broke rules you got the post removed, I don't see anything wrong
You're putting a lot of effort into defending a shitty source.

To be clear, I DON'T CARE who wrote the article. Shitty sources don't deserve the traffic.

It could be a nobel prize winner, if it's on a questionable source, it's getting removed.

Put on your big boy pants and find a better source.

Edit If you CAN'T find a better source on the same story, it's an opportunity to step back ask ask why...
- You're putting a lot of effort into defending a shitty source.
  
  Nope. I'm defending the ARTICLE, which has nothing to do with the more reasonable reasons to distrust Mintpress
  
  To be clear, I DON'T CARE who wrote the article.
  
  You REALLY should. Sometimes great journalists don't have the luxury of being picky about who publishes their work.
  
  The post is about the article and, other than not fawning over Israel, the article doesn't exemplify any of the "offenses" MBFC accuses it of.
  
  Shitty sources don't deserve the traffic.
  
  Great articles do. If anything, limiting access to the good things an otherwise questionable publisher posts reduces their incentive to publish more of that kind and less clickbaity mis/disinformation.
  
  It could be a nobel prize winner, if it's on a questionable source, it's getting removed
  
  That's 100% grade A horseshit and against the REASON to have the rule in the first place. It would behoove you to reconsider such an arbitrarily rigid approach.
  
  Put on your big boy pants and find a better source.
  
  Take off your scolding cap and stop censoring good articles for arbitrary reasons.
  
  Edit If you CAN'T find a better source on the same story, it's an opportunity to step back ask ask why...
  
  If it had been an opinion piece or breaking news making questionable claims, sure. This is neither of that and well-sourced, though, so would be more akin to dismissing a movie for being an exclusive of a streaming service you don't like.
  
  Shitty sources get removed, full stop.
  
  The author doesn't enter into it.
  
  The quality of the article doesn't enter into it.
  
  We aren't giving traffic to them. Or Fox, or Newsmax or Oann, or, etc. etc. etc.
  
  If you don't like that, feel free to post elsewhere, we have higher standards.
- You shielded universalmonk and routinely banned other people for minor insults
  
  Off topic. I had nothing to do with OP's situation and I'm not the mod in question. (Also, I was never shielded)
  
  Universal Monk knew right where the line was, when they crossed it, they were gone.
  
  Others didn't care where the line was.

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