Used Tesla prices tumble as embarrassed owners look to sell

Who knew that being a publicly facing cunt makes people not want to buy your product. Shocking discovery.
- These people literally live in reaffirming social bubbles they have created. On and offline both. They don't see that they are overplaying their hand.
  This article should bring you joy.
  https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/elon-musk-human-meme-stock/682023/
  
  https://archive.is/wVxLV
  
  a cultivated image of Musk as a Thomas Edison or Tony Stark type
  LMAO! See Tony Stark blow Musk off like a loser in Iron Man II:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxe1HCR7uEk
  I'd be humiliated were I him. His head's so far up his ass he likely sees that cameo as a plus.
  
  And this is the no paywall link https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Ftechnology%2Farchive%2F2025%2F03%2Felon-musk-human-meme-stock%2F682023

For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump. On Monday, the president took to the South Lawn of the White House to promote Tesla's cars, apparently buying one despite having campaigned on an explicitly anti-electric vehicle platform.
Somehow, I don't think MAGA cult will buy electric vehicles in quantities needed to offset even a fraction of people who used to buy Tesla.
- Imagine the CEO of Browning or American Rifles helping Joe Biden pick out a new gun from a display in the state dining room.
  
  The difference is Biden is a gun owner. So at least it would be buying a product he actually has. There has been incidents referencing him and his wife having at least a shotgun (so 2+ guns)
  With Trump hating on electric cars like he had for so long, and not knowing how to drive, it's a bit different.
- Half of them are broke as fuck and the other half are heavily invested in oil company stocks. Elon made a poor choice of allegiance.
  
  A portion also associate EVs and their ilk with environmentalists, and would probably not buy one even if their very lives depended on it.
- Well if they make a Cybertruck 2 that's lifted and looks like the Dildozer, they might have a new market. It'll get 50 miles per-charge, but it'll intimidate their neighbor's kid, so it's worth the $380,000 price tag (financed, of course).
  
  The GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck has entered the chat.
  205-kWh capacity battery [three times the size in a crossover], still gets only 275 miles [2023 version].
  
  I'm sure he'll put a turbo diesel in it too
- They’re trying the “buy EVs to own the libs” angle. It’s a bold strategy, Cotton….
- which is great, because it will increase the chance that tesla will go down and with that elon musk.
- I don't think the MAGA Cult can even AFFORD electric vehicles, I mean, shit I know I can't.
- Yeah does Elon not know who his main economic base is? Environmental and techy liberals that love to cancel people, he got into the wrong business for his political leanings I think
- Eh...put a lift kit, USA flag wrap, and a smoke machine on the cyber truck and they'd double sales.
  
  I don't think the Venn diagram of "ev buyer" and "trump voter" is big enough to double sales.
- Ah, yes... Let me tell you about a little restaurant called Chick fil a...
  Never underestimate hate, stupidity, and laziness.
- You can blow that exact point up pretty large. The MAGA verse is a parasite on the rest of the US. I would love to see them try to stand on their own as an independent nation. It would be Texas + a bunch of little shithole countries gathered around its skirts. They wouldn’t have the economic wherewithal to GDP their way out of a wet paper bag.
- I think that's what the Cybertruck is for, to appeal to Conservatives. I live on the edge between blue and red counties, and down in red territory the Cybertrucks are everywhere. (Meaning I saw at least four different ones.)

Same people proudly claiming the market is self regulating shocked when the market responds to them being openly fascist cunts.

stealmytesla.com
- This is beautiful
- If beattheshitoutofmytesla.com was a thing I'd do contract work on my weekends.
  
  Hell, I'll roll out for free.
- SE Asia, East Africa, and Central and South America
  Is this where American monied have compounds?

For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump.
Yeah, that's part of the problem, Elon.
- Elon out here thinking Twitter bots are real people. Too much ketamine.

I shamefully admit I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021 or 2022. Flush with a shit ton of cash, but fortunately I was reading reports of production build quality issues, many recalls, and ultimately pulled back my deposit.
Looking back at it. The one decision I have no regrets on.
- That's the part I never understood. Even if you weren't a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.
  
  I'll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.
  God I hate old me.
  
  Tesla is basically a case study in top down engineering. Radical ideas promised by marketing, sometimes good and sometimes bad, executed in a massive fucking rush which results in tons of build quality and general delivering on promises issues.
  
  If you were an EV early adopter, Tesla is the only brand that delivered the range.
  So, they were the only game in town for a lot of buyers.
  Not nearly as big a problem now. Tesla has real competition which is why sales are crashing.

I got you.
Www.stealmytesla.com
No need to be embarrassed anymore!
- The customer service part... 😂
  
  Our team will handle all the paperwork and finer details of filing insurance claims and police reports to provide you a smooth transition of ownership and plausible deniability.
  That should be higher up on the page, since that'd be the primary value of that service.
- Excellent work by someone there. I love the customer service agent with the ski mask (who can barely keep a straight face) lol
- Nice idea, but what if I want my tesla set on fire instead?
  
  Pour a bucket of water on it
- Please be real.
  
  It really is a website that can be linked to!
  So is The Onion.

The brand is forever damaged. Sell while you can.
- I feel bad for Nikola Tesla having his name associated with all this nonsense. Not even death let him escape from rich assholes taking credit for the work of others.
  
  His legacy can live on with Dr Parkinstein. (Parker Edmondson)
  
  if Nikola Tesla weren't a eugenicist i'd agree with you

Carvana bought mine at a decent price. I imagine the coming glut will have them refusing to buy Teslas outright. Other enraged Tesla owners should unload theirs asap.
- Good on you for having principles. Unfortunately a lot of Tesla owners are limp dicked piss baby champagne socialists who'd rather just put a 5 dollar sticker on their bumper instead of selling it.
  
  Not everyone is the position to sell their car, especially at huge finacial loss. So they buy the stupid sticker to make them selves feel a little better.
  Many bought the thing 5+ years ago when Tesla was basically the only electric with a real charging network and in a time before Musk went from eccentric billionaire to an out-of-the-closet Nazi.
  Now anyone buying one new today, that's a different story (Which makes it harder to sell the damn thing).
  
  Yup, They are also rich privileged extremists that were fine supporting a madman until shit hit the fan

Sure am glad I couldn’t afford one of those things back when I wanted one.
- Right? Who knew that making a product that half of the population wants to buy and then making your brand based around the exact half of the population that lives in contempt of this product instead was a bad idea?
  
  1/3. These cretins are a loud, fascist minority.

Honestly? Might not be a bad idea to consider buying a used Tesla after they tank in value.
No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you're not supporting the fascist prick. They made their money off the first buyer.
It's environmentally friendly to buy a used vehicle, rather than a new one, as you extend it's life and reduce it's carbon footprint
Since everybody is abandoning them, they're cheaper than other options.
My only reservation is that I'd be driving around a Tesla still, so if I did something like this I'd have to de-brand the hell out of it somehow to make it appear as a generic "an car".
- Your heart's in the right place but this is bad advice.
  Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there's only the dealership who can do those repairs.
  And the parts break way too often, even parts that shouldn't break ever, like the door handles that only Tesla can replace. The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.
  It'd be a money pit after the warranty period runs out. You're still going to be better off with a run of the mill beater car
  Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part
  Your point about buying used being better for the environment also applies to older gas powered cars too, which will be easier and cheaper to repair
  
  Obligatory fuck elon before I write the rest of the comment.
  I have had a Tesla for 4 years now and as a car they are quite good (newer models got worse).
  Super cheap to run, no oil, no filters other than cabin air, no yearly dealership maintenance to keep the warranty. And you charge it at home, super cheap and convenient. (yeah, same applies for any other electric car).
  Repair costs (had a few fender benders) are comparable to my old BMW, maybe a bit lower. A door handle never broke on mine, but I just looked and found one on ebay for 15 EUR in case it breaks in the future. Can't say it's unreasonable. There's simply less mechanical things to go wrong with the car, and over time the 3rd party shops can do almost everything, for a similar price to any other car. And if/when the battery ages (8 years warranty), you can still use it at home.
  Fun to drive, too, and quite efficient, more than most electric cars.
  Nowadays I would never buy one new, and even used it somewhat does rise the price of other Teslas, but I'm not planning to sell mine, I would lose quite a lot of money to end up with a similar car. I am in the market for a second car and it's definitely going to be electric, but no chance for a Tesla.
  
  I've owned a Tesla and I'd say your wrong about pretty much everything here.
  The whole point of buying an EV is that it stops polluting after it's been manufactured (ignoring tires) and specifically that you stop polluting your local environment, making it out like used gas powered cars are just as good as used EVs is disingenuous at best.
  
  Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there's only the dealership who can do those repairs.
  Where are you getting that from? There are plenty of 3rd party shops that can and do service Teslas. They even made their repair manuals public and sell the OEM components online.
  The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.
  That's a door handle on a $100k+ car.
  
  there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.
  That's illegal AF in the EU, or at least Germany. They already got into very hot water for trying to price independent repairs out by making their diagnostic software ludicrously expensive.
  
  Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part
  Everything on them can be fixed by a regular mechanic, and Tesla isn't stopping it (at least not in Europe). People are getting 3rd party special shops to fix HV batteries and motors on old model S without any issues. Brakes, suspension, steering, LV electrical (windows, lights, handles etc.), AC can be fixed by anyone without issues. And aside from body parts and a few specialty components (their "octovalve" comes to mind), it's mostly standard auto components that can be bought from 3rd party manufacturers without giving Tesla any money.
  Edit: a model 3/Y door handle is around $100, of course still expensive but also far below your $1000 example, and on par with an original handle for my old ass Peugeot 308.
  
  Part of the win is electric vs gas too though. Use the electric until it's gone and toasted then get a beater.
  
  But if you do you'll be able to experience the Passenger Kebab Mode™ firat hand when the battery ignites!
- No money goes to Elon directly, but it still increases the market price of Teslas. So someone else deciding between used and new might just buy new because it doesn't cost much extra.
- No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you're not supporting the fascist prick.
  One could say the same about not selling your Tesla in the first place.
- One downside is that Teslas are uncomfortable. I liked them a lot circa 2016, the Model S used to be my favorite vehicle. They simply haven’t held a competitive advantage, or in the case of the 3/Y, are genuinely quite bad. I’d rather pay more for something better, and that was before the CEO became this.
  
  I've had my model 3 for 4 years and it's more comfortable than any previous car I've driven. What is bad about them (other than the fuckwit CEO)?

Elon is getting slapped by the invisible hand.
- I think this hand ain't invisible. Well at least one finger isn't.

Ill give you $200 for the battery, the motor, and some chonky relays if you scrape the branding off.
- I saw pics of someone that rebadged their model 3 I think it was with an Audi badge, and if you knew nothing about cars it looked believable.
  
  I saw one with the Mazda logo that looks pretty good
  
  It's hilarious
- I was joking with some friends about doing exactly this. Schuck it down to just the battery and minimal drivetrain, and make a very heavy go-kart.
  
  There are people who use tesla parts to make electric car conversions
  
  I know at least one YouTuber cutdown a salvage Plaid and put a Honda Odyssey minivan shell on it for drag racing.
- What are you gonna make?
  
  Hopefully a better car.
  
  I'll be 100% honest, I don't know but I like to think I would at least get the motor going for a little bit before it melts and stinks up the house. Just like most things i play around with.

Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it's time to jump ship
- You can still get aftermarket parts for Pontiac vehicles. Then again Pontiac didn't go around suing everyone who even thought about making aftermarket parts for their vehicles.
  
  Pontiac was a part of GM, who standardized most parts across all their brands decades ago.
  There's no parent company for Tesla.
- I hope byd buys them for pennies on the dollar and they keep people employed
  But most importantly I hope it's for pennies on the thousands of dollars
- There are already aftermarket batteries. The biggest problem would be autobody panels.
  That said, while I hope Tesla stock continues to crash, not much chance of them going out of business.
  
  It's a pretty big chance, yeah, even with bailouts

spacex and starlink need to be the next to go.
- It should be a part of NASA
  
  We did pay for it.
  We're still giving Elon $80 million a day.

- But selling a used one to someone that wants an affordable EV will potentially turn someone from buying one brand new, and therefore keeping profits out of Little Musky's pockets.
- I'd just park it in portland overnight and file an insurance claim the next morning.
  
  When you want a job done right, don't leave it to amateurs, go to stealmytesla.com.

I’m so glad that I lost my job in 2016 and had to cancel my Tesla Model 3 reservation. When I eventually got a better paying job in 2017 I played it safe -assumed I could lose it at any moment- and bought a Chevrolet Spark which has served me well.

@juergen@feddit.org "Fuck Elon" is becoming the punch buggy of this generation.
Combine a toxic brand with a level of ridiculously poor Quality Control we haven't seen from a US automaker since the Saturn brand, and you get a price point/distressd asset that PE will be looking at. They've already calculated the value of selling Tesla for parts and just waiting for the stock to hit a number to act. Elon is so over leveraged, there will be nothing he can do to stop it.

That would be good for the EV conversion market. Since they use a lot of Tesla motors and battery packs.

- Volkswagen did okay. Mind you, only after Hitler's empire had collapsed and Hitler himself had eaten a bullet.
  Elon, if you're listening...
  
  I can’t wait till the whole lot of these billionaire parasites get what’s coming to them. They are a plague on humanity.
  
  Not a call to violence, but while correlation doesn't mean causation... Well.
  History rhythms and we're impatient for the verse to end.
- Banned for calling out facts lmao
  
  Not really, was banned for being an incoherent troll
  
  Nazi car has Nazi reputation
  I’m happy to hear that the free world denounces Nazis and Nazi products
  Not seeing the issue with that post.

Saw a Tesla today that someone stuck an old Rover badge on, cracked me up

While it's nice to protest outside of the Tesla dealership, people should be protesting outside of US embassies, and while they are at it, protest outside of the Chinese and Russian embassies too. Block them in.
- People are doing. But embassies tend to be in capital cities but Tesla dealerships are everywhere.
- Trump and musk couldn't care less about protests outside embassies.
  The Tesla protests are hurting musk.

At this point I expect to see them abandoned on the side of the road with a "Just take it" sign over the engine
- over the engine
  😑
  
  Oh, I guess I meant over the hood

Soon it can be scrapped for steel and you could make money off buying them.

I'm not sure they're going to be able to give those things away.
Seems to me, at this point, this is a bit like owning anything with a swastika on it in 1946.

Everytime I see our local cyber truck I hope someone vandalizes it.
- I have sticker paper and a printer. Idk how I have resisted the urge...

White people are selling, Indians are buying. Every Indian neighbor I have owns at least one Tesla

Most people who own these crappy cars can't even really afford them. Now they are in big trouble because they can't get rid of them. Lol.

Yeap. Too late to sell now.

I know this the unpopular opinion at the moment, but what electric sedan is better than a model 3? The rest of the producers have all decided we want to drive crossovers or boxes and simply cannot figure out how to make a frunk.
- Ioniq?
  
  Absolutely. Hyundai and Kia have the best EVs by a long shot. Charge way faster than a Tesla, too.
- Lots of choice in Europe
- The first few times sitting in or driving a tesla was cool and novel. But after you have used the fart simulator app a few times, and let your sister in law post a few pictures. It's just a car that takes a lot of space in small parking spots.
  It is low quality, breaks often, expensive to repair, barely fits parking spots, expensive to buy, has paid for addons that have been coming soon the last 10 years
  There is a lot of other electric vehicles I'd rather have
  
  2025 Model 3: 186"L x 73"W x 57"H
  2025 Audi A4 Sedan: 188"L x 73"W x 56"H
  2025 Chevy Malibu: 194"L x 73"W x 57"H
  2004 Ford Taurus: 198"L x 73"W x 56"H
  2025 Mercedes CLA: 185"L x 73"W x 55"H
  2025 Nissan Leaf: 176"L x 71"W x 61"H
  2025 Audi A3 Sedan: 177"L x 72"W x 56"H
  What do you mean the Model 3 is huge? It's small by American standards and standard by European executive compacts. Compared to what, a Leaf? If the Leaf had a sedan counterpart, it'd be the same size as the 3. Vice versa if the 3 had a hatch version, as a hatch is often about 9" shorter than a sedan of the same model. Of all the things against Tesla, I can't say I've heard anyone call the 3 big. If you're not in North America, I'm not familiar with the compacts and hatches, but that's why I threw in the Germans I know
- Audi.

Now just block trump properties

Three fiddy and I will use for target practice.

whos buying used teslas? its like asking for trouble consider thier defectiveness.
- Speaking from personal experience, most likely immigrants who don't know much about us politics and still watch news and shows from their home country or in their own language.
  Growing up, even though I was born in the USA, I'd only listen to what my parents heard (until I was a teen), watched what they watched (Univision, etc), are mostly Salvadorian food at home.

I wonder if someone breaking it and collecting insurance money from it would end up being the preferred option over selling it.

What if everyone would transfer their PayPal credit to a regular bank account on the same day? Would that bring Paypal value down?
- hard to estimate, but probably not. I think what makes such companies go down is when the investors fear their money might be lost. that is, when the company is not worth much compared to their invested money.
  So only, when the user count is dropping, that would be the case for paypal.

what you expect from temupanzers

I hope they lose money because they bought a 1939 Volkswagan with an electric motor on it, and then claimed
Well how was I meant to know the man who lives on the internet 24/7 and can't shut up about his opinions of women, non-whites, fascism, lgbt, and lies like he needs his pants to be warm for the winter, was somehow a bad guy? I bought a cool sticker, so I'm absolved of giving him any money :^)
These people bought them because they thought he was a real life Tony Stark, especially the early models and Cybertrucks. I consider everyone driving in one a useful idiot for Trump and Musk.

FAFO

No sympathy.
- Fuck every Tesla owner. Unironically, they knew what they bought.
  Downvotes coming from Telsa owners who have buyer's remose for giving a Nazi money, i assume.
  
  Only now the chickens are coming home to roost and they wanna get out, not before though. When Elons stock was up they were happy to have the car.
  This is why we see vandalism as well on these

Who is buying all these Teslas that Tesla owners are all selling because nobody wants a Tesla?
- Nobody which is why the used market on them is crashing.
- They are called "people"
  
  Amazing

I have one that’s nearly 7 years old, fully paid for and still works well. I hate having to own any car and environmentally, the best car is the one you already have. Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.
BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here. I’d go so far as to argue that cars are just consumerized war vehicles that a civil society has limited use for given the potential benefits of mass transit.
Oil companies bribed and lobbied against clean, efficient, exciting transit decades ago and were all poorer for it.
- How is it in any way relevant what German car makers were doing 80+ years ago? Unless you also think all modern-day Germans should be "cancelled".
  Apart from that I agree, the American car lobby has been terrible for public transport development and green energy
  
  Because they and many other modern car companies supported nazi genocide and fascism for money that I don’t think it’s a coincidence we’re seeing the same with Tesla. Time doesn’t change the past.
- The difference between BMW and Mercedes, and Tesla right now is that BMW and Mercedes are not currently supporting a fascist. Germany went through decades of reform and reconciliation for its fascist choices. America, and particularly Tesla whose CEO is instigating and wholeheartedly supporting the early stages of the current political reshaping, is currently going one inch further into fascism every day.
  
  I agree and it’s an important distinction but it’s also a big asterisk. Fascism is on the rise again in Germany (and many other places) call corporations have one value and it’s profit, they’ve proven over and over they don’t care about people. If fascism becomes profitable again what do you think they’ll do?
  Also my comments are regarding auto corporations not Germany as a country.
- BMW and Mercedes both supported Nazi’s during the holocaust and I believe they should receive the same treatment but it’s been the better part of a century and they’re still here
  If people knew what the Nazis were planning to do back then, they might have boycotted BMW and Mercedes too, strangling them in the crib. Americans know what Nazis are; they were literally our biggest enemy and our greatest military victory, and the vast majority of Americans oppose Nazis. I think the only hesitation seems to be that people either don't believe Elon actually is a Nazi, or that they think he's just "TrOlLiNg ThE LiBs!!!11".
  Getting an equivalent car at a reduced trade-in price would cost 20k and I would do it on principle if I could afford to.
  That really sucks, and I don't think you are a Nazi... but you're driving a BMW in 1933. You're not going to get any sympathy from people on the right side of history.

Hell yeah, I’ve been wanting a model 3 for years. Glad politics will bring that dream to a reality 😀 lets go electric vehicles!!! One less gas guzzler on the road.

What are your thoughts on doing a Nazi salute when seeing a cybertruck? Is it okay because we are mocking them? Or is it just never okay to do a Nazi salute?
- don't do a nazi salute, you'll just end up making it socially acceptable. Middle finger instead.
  
  🖕🛞📐🛞
- Definitely do not. Might be a show of support.

Boo hoo, don't care. Hope they all lose their asses.
especially the assholes that slap "I bought it before we knew Elon was an ass" style stickers on their cars.
Musk has always been a miserable piece of shit. You just turned a blind eye to it because you wanted to hero worship a emotionally stunted perpetually 13 year old troglodyte, until you couldnt anymore.
- So you've never done business with a company who's CEO is an asshole? Never bought gas, used Windows, googled something, gotten on Facebook?
  I knew full well this guy was an asshole. So is pretty much every CEO in America. You can't opt out, you can only choose which asshole you want to do business with. The holier-than-thou bullshit because Musk is the asshole of the day helps no one. If you buy oil at all, you're funding an industry that has lobbied governments around the world to buy more oil for literal generations, all while knowing the harm it was causing and the people it was killing and would kill.
  It's cool that you've picked the Nazi you hate over the ones that had the good sense to stay home, but it's childish at best to think that makes you a better person.
  
  Thats some serious "you say we should improve society? yet you participate in society, Curious!" energy in that post right there.
- True to your username to just assume everyone who bought one turned a blind eye to him so they could have a hero to worship. Thats just a weird thing to say
  
  Yes yes, I'm sure thats what everyone that bought into his saviour of humanity bullshit 20 years ago with his electric cars and rockets is gonna say.
  Because the alternative is admitting wrong, and god forbid anyone do that. Why do that when you can blindly leap into the low hanging trap of my username.
- I also remember the hero worship in 2015-20ish, even when projects like Hyperloop and countless others were a well known scam. I worked in top tech and their product team worshipped him, they hated me after I tried expressing skepticism. These people probably think he's nuts in 2025, but also say "that wasn't a Nazi salute, stop overreacting".
  
  Yep.
  Even going all the way back to paypal, Musk has been a piece of shit. a very obvious, public piece of shit.
  Fanboys are in a panic and trying to change history and their blind support of him thanks to the nazism coming out full bore in a way that cant be dismissed/handwaved/excused
  
  He has always been a con artist, I don't know why people act like "Oh how did you know Musk was a bad guy in 2015? Impossible!"
- The irony of someone calling other people 13 year olds during the most 13 year old take I've ever heard lol.

What happens if Tesla falls? America's charging station infrastructure is owned by Tesla. Looks like the whole EV push has been a complete failure. What about the environment and global warming, seems like people really don't care about any of that in comparison to settling political grievances. It is what it is.
- That's the American way of doing things. Wild deregulation and dependency on billionaires, because freedom or some excuse.
  In Europe, the EU mandated years ago CCS2 for all cars, tesla included, so the whole continent's (UK, CH, etc included) infrastructure is compatible with every car, just like gas stations. Tesla operates like 20% of the infrastructure so if they disappear it will be a minor nuisance, and only for the time other operators gobble up the locations. If power and permits are already in place, it's a question of a few weeks to install the transformers and charging points.
- @AidsKitty@lemmy.world
  @juergen@feddit.org Are you a Tesla owner who only charges at Telsa charging stations? Tesla doesn't even own the majority of charging stations in the US. They only recently started allowing non-Teslas to use their chargers. Where did you think all the other EVs were charging?
  Tesla will be taken over by PE who will sell off the charging network. Once rebranded as ChargePoint or Electrify America, they will will no lobger be targeted by vandalism and arson. The cost of removing the toxic Tesla brand isn't trivial, but the locations and infrastructure have value. They won't just be turned off when there is profit to made.
  https://evadoption.com/ev-charging-stations-statistics/us-charging-network-rankings/
- There is no point in worrying about the environment without first fighting against facism.
  
  Im a little unclear on your charge of fascism here. Could you list examples of the fascist events or occurances you have suffered?