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Moving away from US cloud services

martijnhols.nl Moving away from US cloud services by Martijn Hols

Relying on US cloud services poses legal and political risks for EU users, so I'm moving away from US cloud services. Here's how and why I did it.

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Nice, now do AWS. That thing's impossible to escape. Well, with effort you could migrate to another American cloud, like Google or Azure (Microsoft).

Hopefully Hetzner will get there one day, but they're really far from being a competition to the 3.
- OVHcloud is an option, that’s what I migrated to.
  
  Just opened the page and there's no deny all button for cookies, not a great start.
  
  Edit: Checked their offering, not even quarter of our needs would be met.
- Going away from AWS ranges anywhere from trivial to literally impossible. If you for example only use S3 there are drop in replacements so you basically only have to change one config file once.
  
  But they offer stuff that has no replacements that I just learned of recently. For example did you know IMDb has an API? Well it’s only usable via AWS. I mean yeah it makes sense from a business perspective and it’s a real niche edge case, but if you, like me, wanna access IMDb programmatically, welp…. time to parse HTML like a caveman.
- Depending on your exact needs, Scaleway can also be an option.
  
  My company doesn't use any American cloud providers.
  
  Looks interesting! Though it can't really replace all the features of AWS, it definitely looks like one day it could.
As a GitHub replacement, I recommend Codeberg ! They’re managed by a nonprofit which you can easily join and participate in the voting. Push times are a tad longer than on GitHub, but still only take a few seconds.

I can’t speak for the CI aspect though, as I haven’t used any of GitHub’s automations. My projects are small enough that I can run the tests locally.
More and more, I think the best replacement for a cloud drive is just Syncthing.

I went through the list and wrote what I use to replace it.

Microsoft Office 365
-- Mail -> Tuta
-- Calendar -> I don't use a calendar, but Tuta would be my option
-- OneDrive -> I still use OneDrive, but I'm also using Filen.io and Syncthing
-- Documents* -> ONLYOFFICE (Documents)

Bitwarden -> KeePassXC and Keepass2Android

GitHub -> I still use GitHub...

Google search -> SearXNG with several search engines

*Documents weren't listed or mentioned since they're not cloud services, but I think it's worth talking about. I'm just using ONLYOFFICE and syncing everything with Filen.io and Syncthing.
- Re: OnlyOffice - It's a Russian product with a Russian version named after the first nuclear ICBM: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39638530
  
  Instead, I'd recommend LibreOffice ~~or CryptPad~~.
  
  Yeah, I've heard of that... Isn't CryptPad just an online wrapper of ONLYOFFICE?
  
  But yeah, thing is LibreOffice is... Worse. I do have it installed though, and I use it occasionally. I'll try and use it more.
- Syncthing is great, and if you need 'central' storage that's always on just throw it on a server too.
  
  YUP!!!
- Syncthing is so good, I don't know why anyone would pay for cloud storage.
  
  Convenience, I suppose. It's not like Syncthing is hard to setup, but it is harder than the centralized stuff, namely because there's talk of relay and discovery servers... That doesn't really "matter" for a regular user, but normies see funny words and give up.
Isnt proton a trump supporter via donations ?
- Here is an analysis: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
  
  TLDR: Proton is a liberal company, donating to many liberal organizations.
  
  Thanks for sharing! I hadn’t come across this article yet.
- Aren't there several companies that donate to both running candidates, just in a 'betting on both horses' kind of way? Just making sure you're in good graces with whomever becomes president.
- Proton's CEO is definitely a Trump fanboy.
I don’t get the advice for startpage.com? It’s owned by a US company: https://www.startpage.com/en/about-us/
Good thing the article is hosted on a french server.
I don’t think proton drive is functional enough to replace onedrive… And you can self-host Vaultwarden so is it really a thing to ditch bitwarden? And most importantly Startpage’s result is “surprisingly accurate” because they crawl from google results. The author doesn’t even investigate to find this thing
- He mentions it in the article.

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