People getting sick and tide of Reddit. TBH I’m still salty over them killing 3rd party apps and I’m so glad they did because that drew the line for me, also fuck spez.
They seem to be blocking access from certain IPs and VPNs (if not logged in?) Which is funny because some of these VPNs are not really hiding anything. Like my work VPN which I would think makes it pretty obvious which company I work for. Annoying when search results link to reddit content.
Without anonymity it is in fact pointless. Pseudo anonymity is extremely useful I basically won't go anywhere without it. That's definitely a feature we should advertise to people, you can actually be anonymous
Shadowbanning sucks when your on the other side of it.
Forever mods that have hundreds of default subreddits act like dictators. Banning people from all their collections of subreddits without anyone knowing.
Removing the ability for users to see actual number of votes up/down.
And now with the whole "don't upvotes certain content or you will get a strike". Never mind that isn't how the site works at all.
They haven't come out with a feature that people have wanted in the last couple of years.
Getting rid of coins/rewards just to empty everyone's stock and then bringing them back again without 1:1 compensation and forgetting everyone who gave their coins away before they would vanish
It's been a while since I've been on and everything I'm hearing is that it just keeps getting worse. Eventually it'll be completely unusable and probably shudder but by then the real conversation will have moved elsewhere
i still lurk a lot. i have a rule against posting there though... which admittedly i did break recently, but only to plug lemmy. otherwise no posts/comments there in two years
Joined up yesterday and have been pretty happy so far. Have been looking for an alternative so i could ditch reddit since the API changes and had no idea this place existed until i saw a random thread yesterday
If you're new, I definitely recommend checking out https://lemmyverse.net/communities for finding new communities to subscribe to, rather than just browsing "all". There are a lot of weird communities out there when you just browse "all"...
The old internet never went away, not on a technical level for sure. What changed is that big corporations had dominant positions from control over user bases and then they squeezed us for profits so hard that it's no longer worth it to use them. This process seems to have accelerated since the end of the era of easy money in 2022 which is why we're seeing things pop off more than it used to.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .world account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
In terms of sorting the "tankie triad" least bad to worst though it's definitely: ML, Grad, then HexBear. At least I sometimes have decent interactions with people from ML, can't say the same about the other 2 though.
Edit: Actually put this as a reply to the correct comment this time. :/
I deleted the other one as I replied to the wrong comment.
I thought the whole point of Lemmy was that it didn't matter what instance you joined. Can I move my account, or do I need to make a new one on a new instance?
Don't worry about the other posters trying to dissuade you from lemmy.ml. It's a very chill instance. It gets flack because it is run by and has a majority leftist base, but that shouldn't be an issue if you consider yourself a progressive. The "tankie" slurs are frankly b.s. and disingenuous. I wouldn't call the sub "pro-Russia/China" by any means, the users are anti-imperialist and realistic in the nature of US propaganda depicting other states as bogeymen. Just because you question the mainstream US-centric narrative doesn't mean you're shilling for China/Russia etc. There's a lot of liberals and centrists, that despite their progressive sentiments they may hold, are still very beholden to the narrative of American exceptionalism in a lot of ways.
Guessing it's coming from shitjustworks people. Politics mod over there doesn't like anyone pointing out the Dems weak ass "resistance" even if you are lauding another Dem(Rep Green) at the same time lol.
the more and more reddit increasing thier filters to ban or remove comments we will see more. it going to take permabans for people to come here in large numbers. sooner or later reddit is just a clone of FACEBOOK.
I'm excited to see where software development is going to go. It seems like every major microblogging platform has a few different flavors and there are multiple platform choices available. What were using is just the beginning, the software can only ever get better really. It's not like the corporate world where they make shit worse on purpose to make more money. And as the software gets better than use might increase as well since you can do more and do it easier and more elegantly
A lot of folks here are talking about Reddit being shitty but I switched because I'm in Europe and I don't want to enrich especially US Companies off of my personal data.
Sounds like some very positive changes in your life. Glad to hear that you've been improving yourself.
My wife and I recently had to make a difficult but necessary change in our own lives, fleeing from the US to live in France while we wait to see what shakes out of the chaotic situation there over the course of the next year. Been starting in on the language learning, but it's been slow going.
I just arrived today myself, after being temp-banned for 7 days for some bullshit reasons that the appeal team agreed were bullshit so they unbanned me, but not before someone else perma-banned me for violating the rules on 'my other accounts' -- I've had a single reddit account for the entire 14 years I've been there, I don't even make throwaways, so, even more bullshit. I appealed that one too, but even if it's overturned I'm not sure I'm going back. They've gotten real fucking fashy all of a sudden with the censorship, banning people for upvoting shit and calling it 'inciting violence.' Fuck 'em.
i heard about that situation, some people were getting temp banned, and then when the ban was lifted, they were permabanned. I think some mods mentioned reddit, or the sub does not reset thier filters once the bans was lifted so the filters automatically assume you are EVADING A ban.
Thanks, glad to be here. This place seems way more welcoming than I remember reddit ever being. But I was a little late to the party on Reddit, I joined in 2016.
For sure. There can also be a problem of too little moderation, though. There is a balance to be struck between censorship of opposing views and getting rid of off-topic spam.
For instance, there were a few regional subreddits that were obviously intended to be for thing like "Which restaurants are worth a 30 minute drive to go to" and "Come to my band's concert at the waterfront this weekend", but had turned into basically nothing but off-topic spam wars about national level political topics.
The mods refused to do anything about it, so I just left because 90+% of the content was stuff I didn't come to that subreddit to read. Keep that shit on r/politics.
(unfortunately, that's just human nature, but there are a variety of ways in which things can become better here - e.g. the ability to create a new community on another instance, and then certain apps and PieFed, though not Lemmy yet, offers the ability to combine all of those communities into a single Topic, called a "Feed", see recent post about this)
Subjectively, Lemmy's communities are much more robust and have a lot more content than they did during the Reddit API exodus. I imagine there will be more people who choose to stay this time around.
Yep, I discovered let me during the API Exodus, and then came back recently with this last wave. They're definitely feels like there's a lot more here than last time!
Also finding a lot of value in reading and actually interacting with comments and content, on Reddit I just felt kind of drowned out and a lurker
The problem is that communities feel dead if they're below a certain critical mass of users and the resulting content. If we can hit that critical mass it will take off on its own
Is there a mobile app yet? I made an account because I was interested in the new Feeds feature, but I spend 100% of my time on the Threadiverse using my phone.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .ee account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
got permaban on 5+accts because reddit did what similar pornhub did, sanatize the site and only corporate content was left. it was getting increasingly hard to comment as anything other than right wing comments.
That's what I think happened to me, seems weird that so many of us are getting banned at the same time. It's different for me though, I get banned or downvoted to oblivion if I express any right wing ideas. It's 98% leftist there now it seems. Wouldn't surprise me if they ban r/conservative entirely this year.
I gotta say, I respect what Lemmy does and hope it succeeds, and I think it's a good place for discussions and such (and I will remain), but good god if this place isn't unfunny as hell. I'm struggling real hard to find some place with actually funny content on here, which leads to me getting exceedingly riled up by politics.
Is anyone else just enjoying seeing people create actual user names again and not just using the automatically generated ones reddit has done for awhile?
But seriously this is good news and I'm glad to have you all here. Lemmy is in a pretty good position right now in terms of having a critical mass of users and decent traction within popular communities. At the very least it feels self-sustaining here.
its thier OVERPOLICING that was the problem, it wouldve been fine if all they did was ban actual BOTS, you know the propaganda ones, but nope they went after everyone more aggresively than they did the above mentioned bots.
Me too, fck reddit, it’s no longer a board for broad discussions from all view points but instead an echo chamber of moderators curating their own narrative.
Or one with the broadest possible federation like lemmy.sdf.org, though they are US based if that's a problem for you.
SDF does not defederate. The blocklist is empty. And it's small enough and chill enough that it's unlikely to get blocked by other instances much.
They're a non-profit that's older than the web and offers a variety of network and retrocomputing services including most famously a public access Unix server. They started as a dialup anime BBS.
thats about the time when reddit was upping thier ban purges, my hunch is people who have lemmy mightve stop using temporarily to find out what was going on/repealing thier bans on reddit?
for a several days i dint immediately go to LEMMY after my permabans, but trying to find out the reason behind all these purges ? some people have multiple reddit accounts
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .ee account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
I'm new myself, thanks for the recommendations. While you're at it, do you happen to know of any good political/religion debate .. subs? what are they called here? I'm going to call them subs for now. Maybe some Anarchist and non-tankie Communist subs?
I am pretty convinced these stats are low because I remember the early years of Reddit feeling much less active than the Threadiverse does now and I have to assume Reddit's MAUs in 2008-9 were at least above 100K.
Regardless, this is nice to see and I recommend everyone check out !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com if they are interested in helping to promote Lemmy instances on Reddit.
I am pretty convinced these stats are low because I remember the early years of Reddit feeling much less active than the Threadiverse does now and I have to assume Reddit’s MAUs in 2008-9 were at least above 100K.
On the other hand, Reddit's reported users numbers are way too high for the actual activity on the website. I follow /r/BuyfromEU quite closely since the sub blew up, and it's definitely not that active for a place with supposedly 150k subs
Great point, absolutely! I don't subscribe to the "dead internet theory" but my time on the Fediverse has also convinced me that all of the corporate platform's traffic numbers are almost certainly heavily inflated (probably to justify higher ad prices).
I would imagine that we're all more motivated than average considering we've made the conscious choice to travel the path less taken because we have standards
If you are here and want lemmy to succeed, please consider donating. The devs used to get by mostly on nlnet foundation grants but are trying to shift to a more sustainable donation based model. You can see how they are doing on the join-lemmy website when you scroll down to the bottom, there are also links to their liberapay (preferred option) paetreon, etc.
Without a critical mass of people, niche communities tend to have very few posts and comments. I wish there were more general communities like the early days of reddit instead of going straight into hundreds of dead communities.
I love the critical mass metaphor for Lemmy. Posts and comments are the neutrons that knock free other posts and comments after reaching other people. If we spread out our fissile material into hundreds of tiny pails, then the neutrons just fly away into the air without having any effect.
Did you make content for the Path of Exile and EDM community?
I also think more general communities (gaming, music) are what we need now, then later given enough growth, they will break into more specialized ones.
Make sure to promote your new communities at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca - Lemmy doesn't have an algorithm so getting off the ground will take some effort. Beware that we're still at below critical mass for easy sustaining of niche communities, so if you desire for one you will probably have to be the one doing the majority of the posting yourself for a while.
Especially PieFed, with its onboarding wizard asking the user what topic areas they are interested in, and then subscribing to relevant communities. Also it asks how often someone wants to hear about Musk or Trump - never, a little, or no filtering. And then the categories of communities, which are now user-customizable and shareable, further aid discovery. Plus (omg it really does just keep going!) PieFed now knows about all communities on all instances, regardless of whether anyone on the PieFed instance has ever subscribed to it or not.
This is probably active ones too, so the ones that don't comment (like me) don't count.. except this time. I would say it would be around same size as the active ones, but I have no data to prove that.
One of my largest pain points with Lemmy is that there are multiple active communities for the same topic, causing quite a few duplicate posts to show up in my feed that is difficult to filter. Hopefully there comes some kind of solution, outside of userbase, this is (what I believe) one of the larger issues compared to Reddit.
However, I still switched over to Lemmy for my primary 'Reddit'-needs.
I just deleted my 12yo account over the censorship. Reddit has become a draconian shit hole and I no longer want to be a part of it. I'm happy to be here.
Same with me. Deleted my 13-year-old account and finally joined Lemmy yesterday. I actually found an app that looks a whole lot like Relay for Reddit back in the day. So now I'm totally comfortable here.
I went through a phase where I would find good posts on reddit and then just copy the link and post here.. but as of now, reddit is like 95% anti-Trump posts so it's all noise. Lemmy is fairly noisy with that lately too but not as bad. I need to figure out a better way to filter out politics because it's ruining online discussion even in non-political threads, somehow it devolves into "orange man bad" somehow at some point and it's just tiresome going over the same topic over and over with the same talking points. Musk nazi, orange man bad.. when you see it 50000000000 times it just gets old after a while, with RES I am able to filter out subs which helps immensely but I don't think that's possible here. But like r/pics, r/interestingasfuck, r/lotr, r/lego, r/technology, r/news, many many others.. 90% political now, so the majority of the site is useless to me now. And it feels like it's majority bots now, probably LLM-generated discussion through an API, dead internet theory is in full speed ahead mode.
I'm one of the new users. Hi. Reddit suspended my account after I posted my indie game. No reply to my appeals for 3+ months. Gonna give Lemmy a try now
Shaddow Banned from Reddit for making some Luigi Mangione prayer candles got thousands of likes and bam old high karma account banned forever. No response from Reddit. Noticed on the shadow ban page that tons of people getting these bans everyday and no response from Reddit . Suggested we protest at Reddit headquarters in SF and now I’m banned from Shadow page ban lol. Nice to be here though
reddit has been going hard in being anti-luigi site recently. the 3 main subs are know that is controlled actively by admin is the shadowban, reddithelp, help, and by extension modhelp.
It's a bizarre thing to go after. I really don't like the pro luigi posts cos he murdered someone and that's not ok... but people are allowed to have their own opinion and most of it IME is tongue in cheek. There's far more important issues they could look at (Russian interference, reddit being used for crime etc) but no... luigi. Ffs.
It's the ever enduring brain melting Enshittification... I heard you can now buy decorations or something similar for your sub. I don't have a source for this, but afaik they have been adding new features for reddditors to spend their money on.
Tension over there is huge. After I turned a little more political in my comments, it took me only 2 months or so to accrue 3 temp bans. The appeals were not heard, they are wrong and don't care. The last appeal got me booted forever. Prepare for way more users.
Hexbear went offline as the domain expired, went to auction and the domain admin was MIA. They've been restored as the domain admin (unfortunately) came back and reclaimed it
I can't remember one instance of a company being bought out and then made better by investors. That's why I came here. I just don't like people like that. I hate how everything is about money.
Yeah but fucking still. I never would've imagined i was surrounded by more peers at any given Bills game than there were people accross the whole world contributing to Lemmy on avg. That's sooooo fucking wild.
It's also so crazy how in a stadium of 70,000 people from US and Canada I will see someone i know every piss or beer break. Whereas Lemmy is half that amd I am 100% positive I've never interacted or saw a comment/post on Lemmy from anyone I know. It's just crazy to see the perspective of seeing the odds of being 1 out of 70,000 vs being 40,000 out of 6 or 7 billion. Obviously I'm intentionally ignoring all the variables at play for the real reason I know people at bills games vs lemmy but it's still the quntificatikn that I found amazin.
Literally seems like 1/4 the comments of Reddit, 1/1000 the userbase. I think between API lockdown and "violence" banning, the entire commenting community of Reddit came here lol.
when they allow so much astroturfing from the right, and anything remotely try to use a neutral word to describe a controversial ones, eg demographic instead of the POC actual race, will get you banned.
Unfortunately (?) on Reddit a lot of the comments are from bots - not even just the "everyone I do not agree with must be a bot" mantra but demonstrably as in it is word for word repeated from a duplicate post made often years in the past, presumably resurrected to increase "engagement" and therefore profits.
^THIS. And my ax. I also choose this guy's wife! => all counts as "engagement" from the perspective of an advertiser.
And the humans are toxic AF. I resolved to leave Reddit regardless of whether I came here or not, bc I didn't like what all that argumentation was turning me into. Conversations are just flat better here.
they went after your acct of 3month old post? im not surprised i find if i dont delete some comments some user was going into Old POSTS AND reporting it.
Yesterday was the first day that Lemmy activity tipped over the threshold, and there were too many overnight posts for me to read all of them over breakfast.
Just randomly found this searching something unrelated, and suddenly I have an account. I've been a reddit user since it took over from digg. Which sort of took over from things like /.
And judging by your username you found a great instance to call home as well! Welcome, let us know if you need anything. Since there is no recommendation algorithm here I suggest subscribing to !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca to help find new communities to subscribe to.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a Reddit.org account so iirc you only need to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
You only need the one account, you don't need to sign into other instances.
There can be some weirdness on the web version where if someone uses the wrong type of link then you maybe redirected away and can't interact as you're not logged in.
Big uptick last few days. I’ve heard there were more redditors coming over after more dumb stuff occurred recently. There was the Luigi hat thing recently.
I had previously used lemmy a while ago, but wasn't too impressed. Then after getting frustrated with reddit time and time again, I tried again, but couldn't find a simple way to get back here. The other day, a post on reddit detailed a very simple way to get here. And now I'm here. (and loving it very much so far)
Just curious, what was difficult about finding a way to get back here?
Is it because the various instance names are hard to remember?
My theory is that’s why so many new people end up on Lemmy.world. Many of the other popular instances have host names / domain names that are more difficult to remember and to tell someone about verbally.
That's really good to see. But it will be far more interesting to see what the numbers are a month and longer are from now. If they don't stick, it's pretty meaningless.
I created an account a while back and I'm back after receiving a warning from reddit for upvoting certain content. I was going through the communities looking for stuff to subscribe to and I was a bit surprised by the number of communities with a couple thousand users and the last post being half a month or more out.
I hope people's suggestions about making the instances and navigation more seamless is being taken seriously because there hasn't been much change there from what I'm seeing.
Even though 50k is a nice number of MAUs and allows for active discussion in the bigger communities, it's still not enough to fuel niche communities - at least presuming the 90-9-1 rule applies even to early adopters such as us. While I agree that discoverability could be a lot better, I think what's holding back the smaller communities right now is lacking critical mass more than anything else.
A bunch of communities were created at the last Reddit exodus and left to die. Buuut some of the communities might have moved to another Lemmy server or simply died out because the same community exists on another Lemmy server.
Beware of that one, it's got... "issues", and is not a great recommendation for someone trying to get away from the exact same type of stuff happening on Reddit.
You know it’s so simple to just click a different app and go back to infinite scrolling the way I’m used to.
I’m not a fussy user, I don’t get all up in arms over changes in functionality or whatever. It’s also nice not to see orange man on the internet whenever I scroll
Hopefully theres more growth in the next days and weeks. I'm absolutely hooked to migrate from reddit to lemmy, it just feels a little lonely here for now. When the time comes, my reddit is gone..
Lemmy is the only federated service I actually enjoy using. Just missing being able to block an entire @something instead of having to block every single community of it
and no I do not want to "choose another host that does block it", it should be a user choice.
That's pretty rude TBH, judging a user just because of what site they came from is not cool, judge them for their actions and words when they get here. Not their former site
That's when hexbear.net (part of the tankie triad) went offline because their domain expired and the domain admin was MIA. Unfortunately, they were able to reclaim it, so the graph should correct back when they start federating again
Is this something that should be really celebrated? I mean, the reason I joined is because it's not reddit. And I feel that this place will turn into reddit 2.0 if we're not careful.