Nintendo doesn’t want to raise the specter of association with Luigi Mangione. Heck, I bet they'd advocate for this, and would rename Mario's brother if they could.
I got a comment deleted here for saying the French should send a guillemot... I mean -tine, as a gift to america, to go with their statue. I've said it several more times since then :P
Meh, I'm not so sure. We need to get used to the fact that reddit's fuckery is unlikely to ever re-produce the massive influx of new users that the API nonsense did in 2023. That was a one-off thing that drove out all the OG users. The people left on reddit are the types that refer to it as an "app" and probably don't even know old.reddit exists. Those kinds of people will grumble but they aren't going anywhere. And frankly, that's fine by me.
Edit: lmao okay, okay, Lemmy got 6 new users today. I get it. My point that we're never going to see another user influx on the scale of the summer 2023 API changes has been proven wrong. Congrats everyone. Let's hope half of them actually stick around.
Both me and my partner joined today. Problem is a lot of people don't know about Lemmy, I'd never heard of it before today but someone commented about it on reddit in response to reddit's latest nonsense.
I'll likely stick around reddit for a bit and do my part to comment about making the switch. I can't blame people for not joining something they know nothing about.
I started the switch over after how grossed out I was with Reddit advertising betting on the elections, and the overwhelming number of bots and bad actors trying to influence people constantly in most of the subreddits. Since then, I’ve been promoting Lemmy, BlueSky, and the Fediverse as a whole on Reddit.
I believe we are on the cusp of another great migration. The more enshitified things continue to get on Reddit, the more real people will leave for spaces like here. At some point it could just be mostly bots talking to other bots on Reddit.
Also, obviously we want more users, but do we want that type of user? Remember what Reddit was before digg, before a few 'endless summers' that happen every year
My point that we're never going to see another user influx on the scale of the summer 2023
You never know. When Digg did a redesign basically all the Digg users fled to Reddit. You never know what is going to be the last straw. And since we're dealing with network effects, there can be this feedback mechanism where people leaving leads to more people leaving. It's hard to predict when something's going to tip over.
IMO, it's just a matter of time. Reddit wasn't profitable and now that they're public their investors are going to demand growth and profit. That means enshittifying the site, and one of those changes is going to be too much. It could go on for years, but I'd be shocked if Reddit is still around in 10 years.
reddit's fuckery is unlikely to ever re-produce the massive influx of new users that the API nonsense did in 2023
While Reddit might not have a single screw-up of that scale again, that is probably better for long-term Lemmy growth. I think we've forgotten just how ill-equipped the small handful of Lemmy instances were to cope with the 2023 influx. We have many more stable instances now, and the onboarding process is smoother.
im an OG user, originally created for use of friendsafari on pokemon(i still have the og acct, that is flagged). i remember when they were there banning "illegal subs" like shoplifting and such, i know they moved to a international site(the users). they dint start aggressively banning til trumps first turn, like around 2018, now everything after that your comment is on thin ice every time.
I just joined Lemmy after lurking on the Fediverse subreddit for the past few weeks. I'm always open to joining new platforms, and I'm a quick learner. I don't think my wife is willing to leave Reddit for Lemmy though... But I do suspect we'll see some more people joining after this and possibly after they start locking content behind a paywall too.
"Trump is right about some big things." "Trump is right about the problem"
"I take some risk by writing this" "this is not an ordinary election"
in a way reddit helped facilitate and validate Donald Trump as a mainstream candidate helping him gain popularity and credibility with /r/the_donald
Marc Andressan - "Marc Andreessen says half of his time goes to helping Trump at Mar-a-Lago" 2024
Snoop Dogg - “I have nothing but love and respect for Donald Trump.” 2024
Donald Trump Was Peter Thiel’s Most Successful Investment.
“Thiel is one of the conservative mega donors that has the ability to shore up candidates that might need additional support. His spending is targeted, and his ability to spend millions can be impactful,” Reddit was targeted, to be impactful.
Ron Conway - says "Crypto Economy" Is the Next Multitrillion Dollar Opportunity - 2021
yesterday, - "President Donald J. Trump Establishes the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and U.S. Digital Asset Stockpile"
Jared Leto - “We want to see your America in all its imperfect glory.”
now reddit is valued at $6 billion, off the data & memes of unsuspecting Canadians supporting their own threat to their sovereignty.
made sense alot of us/military propaganda was directed at the political and news subs. soon came putins trolls after with the help the above investors.
Took me a min to figure out this place but yeah been a long time redditor. I got an email warning me I upvoted something they didn't like so I joined up here.
I'm curious, what was hard to figure out? I assume it was something federation-related?
I never really had a problem figuring things out (though I'm sure there are still things I could learn). The only difficulty was that when I was subscribing to communities, it was sometimes hard to know which was the "main" or "most popular" community. For instance, there are half a dozen fairly big gaming communities spread across various lemmy instances. Some get more posts, some get more comments. Reddit also had a few different gaming-related communities, but it was easier to figure out which were the bigger ones and which ones had a slightly different focus.
i am not sure if reddit base will accept these narratives. sure they are able to place r/conservative on the front page but comment section there is a shit show. anyone asking questions gets removed lol
you aint got to be reddit pro to understand what's that is about.
The enshittification of Reddit started when they hid new features behind API in order to push their shitty official app. Every next move just made the slippery slope steeper.
I knew Reddit was dying after they went public and immediately purged all the mods who didn't fall in line. It was disheartening to see so many users continue to shill for such decisions. Maybe it was a lot of bots, who knows. But watching this site explode in popularity after these new changes is encouraging. Everyone here should do their part to inform people of this place and continue to stay connected. Good luck everyone!
AFTER censoring luigi related news, and promoting trump, is a death knell, and reddit thought it was clever to "ban" a bunch of subs after musk complained about whitepeople twitter, they only backed off when the mods said they wernt inactive.
so many users continue to shill for such decisions
I think that something that a lot of people need to be reminded of here, especially ex Reddit moderators, is that the users have NEVER particularly been fans of the moderators. In fact the moderators on Reddit helped the admins bring Reddit to the point where it is now in the first place. Setting up automoderator to catch buzzwords out of context and make people's comments disappear without notice or a trace is just as fucking dodgy as the admins flagging the word "Luigi".
So no, it's not a surprise that moderators getting into trouble for not falling in line with the admins doesn't cause a mass exodus. Because most people don't give a fuck about the moderators and would be glad to see them gone. With the way they have been abusing automoderator over the years, it wouldn't make much of a difference if they were replaced by an automated system anyway.
So if you want people to come to Lemmy, stop acting like they give a shit about the moderator that treats them like dirt. Because that'll probably have the opposite effect. I know that it did on me when all the mods were crying about the API and their modding tools. Start offering more reasons for why USERS should come here.
The worst thing about the API changes wasn’t even that most people didn’t care or weren’t on board. It was that they were actively against the people protesting. In real life when this happens I always give some leeway because everyone has their own problems and they might be a bit annoyed by the protest action (which is part of the protest). But on Reddit?? People lost their fucking minds because they couldn’t have access to some subreddits for like 24h.
Sooooo many people failed to realize that even if you didn’t use third party apps that it would still affect you even if indirectly. They didn’t even have to do anything other than literally do nothing/something other that browsing reddit for a day. And they couldn’t. They vilified and downvoted the protesters and took the side of the billionaire trying to take advantage of everyone ruining Reddit in the process
That fiasco in pretty meaningless in todays world events, but fuck, I still find it a great insight into how much we can suck as a species
I modded about 30 sub's, mostly niche subs just to keep the spam and hate speech at a minimum. Apparently I was the "landed gentry". Haven't been back in almost 2 years now. Fuck spez.
this massive purge last month, is definitely revealing how dead reddit is without people using multiple accounts to comment in, wether to evade or to troll or to even use the site normally. for example after they had a big purge in december, we noticed how little activity there was in political subs , like there was very little engagement. after it the trolls came back everything went back to being "trump did this or that". making more than 1 accounts just risks you can ban, because thier filters are too stupid to discern if yuor ban evading or not.
Yep I bailed. Might post one last thing that will definitely get me banned but I saw the “rule” and immediately came to open a new account here.. fuck Reddit.
They really expanded their banning too. My ten year old account got banned for telling a guy that was defending the third Nazi salute to "go to hell". Was banned and then had the appeal just confirm the ban.
New account basically uses your Internet footprint to ban any accounts you make. I could get around it but it just is not fucking worth it at that point.
If they want to keep Nazis on their platform and ban the people that tell them to go to hell Reddit will be like 4chan quickly.
Hell, I feel every website is becoming 4chan these days. Twitter and Facebook are cesspools. Fuck reddit.
I got banned today cuz some dude DMd me that he would hang himself, I send him a reddit care message and blocked him, I got banned for three days (they cited the care message) for harrassment, I appealed and was like bro reddit admin, they literally wrote me they would hang themselves how is me using reddit care harrassment and then they permanently banned me. Actually insane. My account had like 60k karma and was 7 years old. Reddit can go to hell.
i had a 11+year old acct, whom i stopped using like 7 years ago, it was ban, because one of my throwaways had a temp ban, so reddit decided to look at any of your accts that are connected by device or ip, that was involved in ban evasion, and just ban all of them regardless, they usually only ban future accounts, but they banned all acct because a temp ban triggered it. the oldest acct is the one that dint get banned, for some reason.
from what ive gathered they look at your IP address, your device (if you use the reddit app it gives them even more info on your device, your browser fingerprint seems to be important, they also use captcha v3, which is more advanced than V2, which records your site activities, cookies, posting and commenting behavior, of course ban evasion too. Also they compare your "bot activity" to other bot activity and just ban you.
yep I got banned on a sub for something flagrant and tried to ban evade with another account and now every account I have is under a week suspension. Supporting literally anything that isn't reddit rn because of how much their moderation sucks
Anywhere the rich gets to have their privilege, inevitably shits the pool.
It is my hope to see a 2nd Constitution, designed to engineer excessive wealth out of existence. It has become clear that too much money drives people insane.
Same here. I figured it was a matter of time before reddit was entirely ruined after the api change and IPO. I stuck around for the niche communities, but they've all been overrun by bots.
No, it is an open place where CCP shills and Nazis and good people can all say what they want, filter what they don't, and communicate without shitty corporate overlords or trash mods having all the power.
Honestly googled Reddit alternatives and the first search was from Reddit discussing Lemmy. Took a peek and now I'm here. I like Lemmy, just communities are a hit or miss due to inactivity.
i heard it about over the API thing like 2 years ago, then forgot it. got sitewide ban 99% of my accts meant for different subreddits, and came here, after i remember lemmy. im on LEMMY and on another forum(meant for people who evaded bans and got sitewide banned, and i noticed some got banned for no reason as well.
It's a familiar enough looking place, with some good discussions. But what's super cool - at least to me - is that "Lemmy" isn't just Lemmy. There are people here using websites running all sorts of engines. Mbin is a different reddit-like platform that cross-communicates with Lemmy. Friendica is a Facebook-like engine that can talk with Lemmy. NodeBB is a traditional forum. Mastodon, Misskey, and Akkoma are Twitter-like platforms that can show up here, too.
It's a mesh network, with each node having different strengths and weaknesses, different UIs and UXes, and different rules and goals.
It's both familiar, and also something totally different, both at the same time.
I think this is what confuses me, like, how? If Lemmy is like reddit and Mastadon is like Twitter how do they talk to each other. Do you follow someone on Mastadon via lemmy and then their "tweets" just show up on your front page?
its not the servers or the domain name that makes reddit valuable, its us the people. we are what bring value to their platform. may freedom of speech live on ✊
Start subscribing to communities across instances - it will drastically improve your feed quality and the overall Fediverse at the same time.
In the Fediverse, note that when you hit "All or New" you're only seeing the instances that people on your server have already subscribed to at a previous point in time. By subscribing to new communities on separate instances, you're opening a gateway for other users on the server to start discovering it as well.
i had one acct left after they banned all my other accts when they decided a large purge last month, im just lurking there with that acct and only commented once on a niche sub, likely i wont be commenting on any controversial ones, and just spend it here instead.
I'm proud of the active community we've built at https://lemmy.world/c/luigimangione It's a great space to post any Luigi content, that may or may not have a proper place in the larger communities on Lemmy. It's great that former Redditors can come to Lemmy and see a niche community like they are accustomed to having, without fearing censorship like they did on Reddit.
One thing I just noticed about this place is that posts get a lot of engagement, but there aren't a ton of posts. That means there are a lot of lurkers, but not enough posters.
So if you just came here from reddit, start posting!
yeah the way replies to comments are displayed is a little funny, and it's not very intuitive trying to find new posts, I set it to filter by new and it'll have a 7 month old post at the top, and a 3 day old post right under it and shit
There are lurkers but many of the active commenters are frankly just more active in voting and commenting. Lemmy has much more engagement than Reddit for commenters because it's a small community and the way comments are default sorted. You don't need to make a comment early to end up on the top of the thread. You just need to get about two up votes and it'll put you at the top. If what you said is worthwhile then you'll get a lot more after that
Edit: one of the benefits of this is it encourages high quality late comments. On Reddit those would largely get ignored, but here engagement like that is encouraged.
OF bots are currently concentrating using money(buying specific proxies ip services, new devices, multiple anti-detection browsers on evading reddits bans currently.
Reddit is also banning and warning people for UPVOTING "violent" comments (or what they now consider violent and somehow right wing subs don't get the same censorship applied; or we'd see them removed about it). It's now a dystopia.
"conservative" subs are shill ops... just go through the comments, any reasonable right wing questions get removed and only removed fame bait is allowed to be posted.
Get rid of the goddamn up/down vote system then. It sounds like it is headed towards youtube where they only show upvotes to create a fake "yaaay!" impression.
Quite literally signed up for lemmy just now cause of this. So many of the sites that helped make the internet boring are committing self harm, twitter, fb, and now reddit - the old "decentralization" arguments were kind of boring to me but now I ache for the old internet and gosh darn it if the billionaires are making the best case against themselves.
The funny part about digg coming back is that their main selling point (absolutely stupid and tone deaf in this environment) is that they're using ai to moderate content so it "helps mods". It's going to crash quickly. Considering AI and making reddit go public are the reasons we hate the site now, it's destined to fail. Unfortunately the future is going to be built upon huge corporations attacking usage of anything but their services and alternatives popping up that people flock to. I fully anticipate bluesky to become ruined within the next few years.
I'm glad something is happening to cause this shift, but causing massive amounts of misery and distrust is not what I thought would spur it on. Good news for those of us who know what life was like before fb and google ate the internet is it's actually really liberating seeing the internet as this wide open place again.
And with that- I have deleted my Reddit account that I have had for 13 years lol. Fuuuuck that. I don't even care if that gets reversed after Nintendo gets involved. This is ridiculous behavior.
Just the fact that someone gets noticed and potentially talked to if they just upvote, and not say anything, seems like something that's never been done before, and is a bit shocking to see.
im on another site where people use evasion methods to use mutltiple accounts, said upvotes are monitored by reddit and removed/ban the user quickly in some case like if you have multiple accts before doing the same thing and not commenting or whatever before. i think they just increased thier filtering of upvotes.
This is the final straw for me. Today, after years of accelerating decline, I deleted my Reddit account and made my Lemmee lurking official. My only regret is abandoning the the good people at Narwhal who always made Reddit better, but never had a chance to save it from its corporate-aspiring overlords. Good-bye!
I wish you meant the Narwhal team, but I fear you are right that the likes of Spez et al. will find a way to corrupt whatever public forum is large enough get their attention.
Reddit and Lemmy (almost typed Reddy and Lemmit!) are their own versions of awful. Me and the mods over at the politics community have beef because they're QUICK to squash posts from us calling people out for being shitty anybody-but-Harris 'lefties' and abject alt-right trolls, but they leave that shit up WAY too long despite it being clearly against the rules. But at least I can call 'em out on their bullshit. Reddit, they'll ban you then ghost you. That's the world over there. Pick your poison.
The difference is that you're on the fediverse. Their influence can only go so far. Same with your influence. That's the beauty. Nobody rules them all.
more or less its going the way of facebook which is the primary right wing propaganda machine, followed by youtube. also reddit does nothing but repost X-itter, and TS posts anyways.
So I had an account under a similar name to this one, but it got perma-banned a few months back. Not even Luigi related. Remember when that Nazi incel Nick Fuentes got doxxed? I made a comment that basically said "he should be happy now that women know where he lives so they can come share a cocktail with him", with a gif of a Molotov cocktail. I thought it was pretty funny. Banned for glorifying/promoting violence. Against a Nazi.
More recently, my other account got perma-banned from r/insanepeoplefacebook for "hate speech" because of this comment:
It's a funny meme, rooted in reality for some communities, due to their conservatism or beliefs.
You can't even be a centrist on Reddit anymore and point stuff out about left and right policies and attitudes. You can be a full on Nazi or full on Communist, though. It's quite tragic.
I'm not even a centrist. I'm a full blown Leftist. It's just a historical fact that religious assholes have spent the last thousands or so years going around the world trying to make everyone as miserable as them. I wasn't even talking about the average religious person. There are plenty of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists who don't go around trying to make everyone live the same as them. I was specifically talking about the whacko zealots, and I thought that was pretty clear in my comment. Apparently, talking about crazy religious people is a no-no on... [checks notes]... INSANE PEOPLE FACEBOOK.
wanna bet it was an incel/con that reported you. they love to als brigade other subs too. i also immediately block who im reporting, sometimes i just block them and move on. but i know they create a new acct to evade my blocking, because i see them in the comment string complaining about being blocked.
I went straight to a perma commenting on what was going to happen with those inmates being moved despite the judge blocking it. It's not a huge loss since that is the second account perma'd in the last 30 days. And I've been using revanced Reddit so no ads. But they've become pretty insane about what is "hate, or violence"
Exactly this! I am so glad I got introduced to lemme, which funny enough was recommended through Reddit. I am curious to how the mods are responding. “Hey you guys go to Lemmy which is an alternative to Reddit and way better.”
That site is unusable now, I got banned for saying the word guillotine, didn’t even use it in any context. I’ve tried going back and always get banned for ban evasion. It’s a garbage community now, the worst of the worst stayed there
from what ive heard commenting as a new USER is very hard to do now, it only takes your comments to be removed(depending on the way you are commenting), or getting reported by an oversensitive user or a filter to get you banned. i had to literally self-censor some words so i wouldnt get reported.
now reddit is telling people to investigate the people upvoting and people who got "luigied" by the filters, as if mods are going to spend energy investigating every single instance.
Everything that matters - the people and the communities - still exist. Spez was never the best of us, it’s the people that make that platform great (or completely insufferable like r/TheDonald and r/conservative). If they’re going to let everyone shit in that sandbox, we’ll all find somewhere else to hang, at least until the world burns.
I need a lemmy based replacement for MarchAgainstNazis since that mod team has been seriously compromised.
Can't sound like you criticize reddit itself or admin actions in any way, benign things being silently removed/hidden. can't say anything against actual nazi's now.
unfortunately I'm not up for growing a new community myself right now, tbh I'm not doing a great job at attracting members to the one I did start so I don't think I should try and handle 2 already. I'm bad at social things in general but I try.
Reddit sucks because of the moderation, yet the current zeitgeist continues to be that this extra moderation is some wondrous, beautiful thing that improves everything it touches, and new platforms need more of it.
Fuck that & fuck Reddit.
Though that may be the case with references to Luigi, they'll happily abide by much senseless moderation like
blanket blocks of comments containing links of any kind in subreddits such as r/mildlyinfuriating
blocks of meta discussions
strange ideas of brigading that treat a link to a post in another subreddit as "community inference"
practical bans of subreddits airing grievances about bad moderation
blocking any insult even when it doesn't amount to harassment
blocking any expression of violence even when it's not incitement until it swings back & strikes against expressions of class consciousness that refer to Luigi.
With newer platforms like mastodon & bluesky, it seems like more of the same: their advocates often gush proudly of their robust moderation & claim that their extra moderation is indispensable to a safe, non-toxic experience.
I think all we need from moderation is removal of illegal content & perhaps offloading of off-topic content somewhere else.
Rather than block offensive content, they could label it & let users decide whether to filter it out.
Bluesky already does this, but they hardcode their in-house moderation, so users can't opt out as we saw when they blocked the Trump toe-sucking Elon deepfake video.
Right: the moderation is really to serve themselves including by protecting brands of commercial interests & advertiser revenue, but these platforms have deluded users into buying the pretext that it's an essential part of a "safe, non-toxic" culture.
Most of the time, if I say “Luigi” I’m actually talking about the character. Mario’s brother. The lil green plumber. Not the real life guy.
I’m not sure what’s gonna happen to discussion about Nintendo games but if first names themselves can be banned from being said (even if they take on a new meaning due to slang) there’s something seriously wrong with the platform.
Omg was thinking this after looking at their ticker. want to go back a quarter and see what their q1 2025 plans were. I hate earnings calls. but goddamn has this made me invested in seeing something crash and burn. Now I want to hear mark zucc try to explain why usage of his hellsite is down too
i saw on another thread that thier numbers declined recently, and you guessed it it was due to all the indiscriminate banning they did last month. this really tells us most of thier activity is mostly do to bots, OF, ADVERTISERS, AND both usa and russia/israeli trolls.
I still use Reddit probably too much, but I still plan on upvoting anything Luigi related lol. If that gets my account banned then official goodbyes to reddit.
The fact that "luigi'd" as a verb has become pretty common slang very quickly, it's not crazy to associate it with violence.
Now we get to the actual matter. Several years ago saying "Someone should shoot that CEO" (which would be the same statement as something like "Hoping that CEO gets luigi'd") would not have gotten you banned. Wishing death upon someone is not the same as actual threats of violence.
that was until the last few years, actually it wasnt a problem implying something should happen, until trump came along. even saying "implying somehting should happen" can be misinterpretation as a violence.
Luigi's Mansion 1 is one of my all time favourite games on Gamecube. Probably a controversial opinion but I feel like the sequels don't come anywhere near as close as the original.
political and news addiction, not possible. the only way is if they get banned, or shadowbanned site wide. i find my self sometimes endlessly scrolling for it, then it got annoying because my comments were getting misconstrued and deleted. i started filtering multiple subs over this.
was banned early last month, because r/technology was filled with trump news and i was reporting obvious misinformation, the site said you cant report other people like that, and i was banned. depending on the sub, there is a very vague way of reporting people.
My Reddit account got permabanned because I replied to someone saying that scientists should open up their brain to study it. This cartoon suggestion was apparently a horrific violent threat.
Reddit is just gonna be bots by the end of the year
Considering the appeal was rejected I have no choice but to take it as the Reddit admins also taking it literally (even though appeals are likely automated as well)
Copped a permaban on reddit when I started taking about the Luigivolution, lamenting the current nightmare because some numpty couldn't properly set his windage, insisting that Nazi lives don't matter, and finally changing my nym to DutifullyPunchingNazis. I guess somewhere in there was the final straw.
i had one temp ban on r/technology for REPORTING SOMEONE ELSE", and then reddit just decided to ban all my other accts for evasion i did years ago and those accts were deleted and also the new accts i specifically avoided said subreddit until like months or years later. and this sub was also discussing trump related news.
yes you can get banned for reporting other people. because the sub or reddit as arbitrary qouta how many you can do, before they deem it as a form of abuse.
TBF it doesn't automatically block or ban content, it just prompts moderation to review the post before it goes public. I approve of this, even though I don't promote reddit for any use.