Someone posted this over on Reddit right when it happened and I apparently saved it. I'm cleaning out my bookmarks and came across it. I hought you'd like to see why it's good news that we found Lemmy.
Edit: I took a screenshot in case it gets deleted.
One of the main reasons people come to Reddit is to be informed by discussions they’re interested in, creating an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value. Contextual Keyword Targeting places advertisers at the center of this journey, and at the heart of active conversations taking place, giving them the option to select specific keywords to associate with their brand, or even align keywords with their creative ad copy for added relevance. With so much direct traffic to Reddit conversation threads originating from high intent organic searches or research sessions, Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users.
I threw up in my mouth reading this. I don't think any community would enjoy being described as "an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value".
If you're like me and haven't deleted old reddit comments because of the valuable information they can give other people, now may be the time to reconsider. Being able to advertise on discussions that have already happened is one of the sales pitches Reddit makes to prospective advertisers.
Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users.
They mentioned Ally Financial as one of the success cases so I did a quick search for recent posts about Ally and sure enough the very first result from outside their own sub has this user contributing to the conversation:
Somebody posts a question about Ally and this 11 minute old account comes along pitching all of Ally Bank's features. Then a week later they're making 3 posts in a row advertising some other brand.
There’s a ton of these accounts. They gather karma with scripts that randomly repost top 100 all time posts on big subs and then delete them so their account looks clean. Then they sell it to ad companies that post client sanctioned posts and comments and get paid based on user engagement with the brand.
Check out r/hailcorporate. A huge portion of Reddit is just guerrilla advertising.
The use of all the buzzwords actually works to show the advertisers in question that they understand what they're doing and, in this case somewhat literally, that they "speak their language."
Reddit's recent monetisation schemes can all be summed up as "demanding a cut from people profiting off the site" and this is just more of that. They've done absolutely nothing to prevent astro-turfing and manipulation, now they're just going to offer it as a service.
I'm so glad people like you are choosing to bootstrap the community's they want to see instead of just hoping mods invested in there existing community's decided to come over and working to try and connect with the people already on lemmy instead of just begging the people on reddit until the mods ban them for spamming
Same, we're all prostitutes for Reddit in the end.
TBH, they're already doing it a little here, but at least we're not being sold to the highest bidder by Reddit. Here, they get ignored and/or downvoted.
The window of success for trusting reddit for product recommendations was just destroyed. What fucking idiots. They can't seek out clients instead of posting to the world that they try to manipulate their users?
They are trying to point to subs dedicated to making smart purchases as an opportunity to advertise for whoever pays? Good fucking luck. They are going to crash their whole model into the ground and they don't care. This is an IPO play to get rich and RUIN the site.
TLDR; remember how you liked putting site:reddit.com at the end of searches for specific product recommendations because it seemed like the last place left on the internet where you can get recommendations which weren't blatant ads? Well fuck you, we gonna use the question context when choosing ads.
Example: Looking for headphone recs and go to a reddit post? You're gonna see a headphone ad.
TLDR: They're selling keywords and organic advertising (I think that's the name) from their official blog.
Full text:
Investing in what makes Reddit unique: Introducing Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads
Announcements Staff • June 9, 2023
Reddit is the place the world turns to for advice, recommendations and honest conversations. Every day, Reddit users contribute to more than 400,000 conversations on the platform, and with each passing second, an average of two questions are asked on Reddit that receive an average of 19 responses – from real people (helpful, anonymous strangers no less!). And, with over 13 billion posts and comments, Reddit has become one of the internet’s largest open archives of human experiences. These rich conversations are a valuable place for advertisers to find highly engaged, potential customers, and for brands to become part of the most contextually relevant conversations happening online. As we continue to invest in advertising solutions that bring the best of Reddit to businesses, and vice versa, we are excited to today announce two new Reddit Ad Products that harness the value of Reddit’s communities for advertisers: Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads.
Introducing Contextual Keyword Targeting
One of the main reasons people come to Reddit is to be informed by discussions they’re interested in, creating an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value. Contextual Keyword Targeting places advertisers at the center of this journey, and at the heart of active conversations taking place, giving them the option to select specific keywords to associate with their brand, or even align keywords with their creative ad copy for added relevance. With so much direct traffic to Reddit conversation threads originating from high intent organic searches or research sessions, Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users.
Introducing Product Ads
Research shows that redditors are higher-value customers; they make 2x more category purchases and spend 2.5x more per purchase, are +56% more likely to talk positively about a brand online and are +46% more likely to trust a brand that advertises on Reddit. To address this unique mindset, Product Ads are aimed at seamlessly connecting brands with consumers when they are already in research mode and primed to make a purchase decision. Integrated into the shopping journeys already happening on Reddit, Product Ads are a natural next step in the consideration process as users gear up to make a purchase. Product Ads feature information like product description and pricing in local currency, as well as a call-to-action button that sends users directly to the brand’s product page. And, as part of our wider commitment to making it even easier for advertisers to set up and manage their campaigns on Reddit, Product Ads enable advertisers to quickly and easily build ads directly from their existing catalogs with no need for additional creative resources. If an advertiser is already activating shopping campaigns on other platforms, they can easily import those same catalogs to the Reddit Ads Manager.
“We’ve known for over a decade that people come to Reddit to talk about the products they love – take r/BuyItForLife for example, a community of over 1.5 million redditors who have been sharing recommendations and advice about their lifelong, must-have purchases since 2011. These updates will uplevel the search-and-discover experience for both brands and our users by tapping into our differentiated value as a hub for actionable conversation” said Reddit Chief Revenue Officer, Harold Klaje. “Our approach to this next phase of our Ads Product offering is to help brands help people make informed decisions, find answers to their questions, and discover products they care about – while in the process enabling advertisers to build connections with new and valuable new audiences.”
Client success so far
Reddit partners have already begun tapping into the potential of Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads as part of our early testing process.
“We are very excited to see Reddit’s ads product suite expand. Contextual keyword targeting is a fit with the inherent nature of Reddit users, as well as discoveries of Reddit content via search queries,” said GroupM Vice President and Global Head of Social, Amanda Grant. “Connecting that high intent user behavior with Product Ads gives our clients more full funnel opportunities on the platform, and more commerce considerations in the arsenal that is especially meaningful as teams prepare for 2H activation."
As a Financial Services disruptor brand, Ally Financial sought out Contextual Keyword Targeting to run contextual ads along relevant conversations on Reddit. By aligning their ads with suitable keywords, Ally was able to drive cost efficient down funnel sign ups from Reddit users.
Liquid I.V. came to Reddit looking to boost consideration and sales for their line of hydration products. As part of our Product Ads beta testing, the brand saw substantial performance relative to internal metrics for Return on Ad Spend.
Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads are available in Beta to all qualified Reddit advertisers globally from today. To run your own ads on Reddit, and learn more about our other advertising options, contact us.
I mean that was possible before but on a whole new level. It's actually in Reddits interest to get rid of more sceptical mods who stick tightly to rules, because they'd delete an obvious ads thread.
It IS kinda crazy. If you try to create "nothingness" (create an enclosed space and suck out all of the air to have as little as possible), the nothingness actually tries to become full of something again, because of pressure difference.
Is there an easy way to delete or rewrite all my comments in bulk? I looked up something when ask this started, but the resources I found were too complicated
I’m so glad I purged all my crap off that network. If you wrote about a brand, your content will be used to show that brand as an advertisement. Now your content will appear like an endorsement and Reddit will definitely laugh to the bank off your words.
The only good news is I'm racking my brain and I don't think I've ever mentioned a product of any sort by name that I wasn't bashing it. Sorta the economic version of survivor bias? If it's good, I have no reason to bring it up.
I hope those slip through so someone can see an ad that says:
This describes my relationship with Dell perfectly. I never buy anything from Dell, and I always tell other people to avoid them. The best thing I can say about most of their products is "at least it's not HP", and the few decent things they sell tend to be massively overpriced.
Despite that, I have a ton of Dell products that I've either saved from the trash or have been given second hand over the years, and my experiences with many of them have been just fine, maybe even bordering on pleasant in some cases. The monitor I'm looking at right now is a Dell, and it's pretty good.
On the other hand, I've spent afternoons ripping my hair out trying to adapt power supplies for their stupid proprietary motherboards, or figuring out how to compile a fan controller driver for Linux, because their laptop fans won't fucking spin until a proprietary driver is loaded in the OS.
Guess which Dell products I tell people about when they ask me what computer to buy? It's sure not the ones that are decent, but otherwise unremarkable.
Those numbers are likely only mildly inflated. Advertisers would raise hell if they were off significantly. Now, how many are Reddit personnel or bots? That’s the real question.
Unfortunately, there are many people still on Reddit. I predict that this is going to be like the Twitter migration, where more and more people join alternatives with every bad decision the company makes
I used to be the only one of my friends that use reddit. Around the start of the pandemic some of my more "normie" (for lack of a better term) friends started signing up as well.
I think a lot of the old guard has left/is on the verge of leaving, but I don't think there's any shortage of new users that don't know what a 3rd party app is, only ever used new reddit, etc.
Well A) this is not going to get deleted cause B) it’s not that big relative to most advertising.
Previously you could target ads by subreddit or interest (which I’m assuming was subscribers of a subreddit when they were on an unrelated subreddit)
This allows for ads to be served based in keywords on keyword targeting. So a car company could serve ads on “transmission repair costs” or whatever.
The second changes looks like product ads, which is an ecom ad format that you see on Google (top row of products), insta, Pinterest, etc… basically it’s exactly what it sounds like. Products in an ad, you can swipe through them.
If you don’t like targeted ads you’re not going to like these, if you didn’t care before you probably won’t care now.
Yeah this is literally a general roll out announcement. It wasn’t available to everyone before. Generally most ad platforms test features with enterprise level clients before letting everyone have access.
But isn't this basically like the old days of TV "targeting." Before we had all data the content was proxy for audience. Day time soap operas were called soap operas because the content was the perfect proxy to reach stay at home wives and sell cleaning products to them. Similar, sports or certain types of comedy shows, etc skew towards a certain audience. So you use the content as proxy for the audience to run your ads against. This contextual targeting seems like that, but a bit more algorithmic in how it detects what the relevant content is based on key words in the text.
Feel like the previous subreddit targeting was basically like tv (or at least buying spots on a channel) and the new way is like Google search or (allegedly old) gmail ad targeting
I don't see the alarm. Key word targeting is used in other digital print forms. Doing ad targeting based on the content of the page is not a bad way to balance the need to increase value of the ad space you sell, while also avoiding the need to target a user specifically based on tracking. It's no secret reddit makes money selling ads.
I'm here because they killed third party apps and api's. But the thing is Reddit philosophically has been a for profit company. They make money on ads. In terms of the possible ways to advertise, this isn't crazy invasive.
Lemmy and the fediverse are not inherently a for profit. So yes, the advertising doesn't really apply as much.
I just expect the for profit services I use to behave like for profits. And the not for profit services I use to behave like not for profits.