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Child from Honduras is one of two people dead on or near Texas’ anti-migrant border buoys

www.dallasnews.com Child from Honduras is one of two people dead on or near Texas’ anti-migrant border buoys

Gov. Greg Abbott has rebuffed demands to remove a floating barrier that Mexico and US officials warned would become a 'death trap' for migrants.

Abbott ‘has the blood of a child on his hands,’ a congresswoman said. ‘No good person would do this,’ said Mexico President López Obrador.

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Child from Honduras is one of two people dead on or near Texas’ anti-migrant border buoys

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Dead person found in Texas’ anti-migrant buoys that Mexico and Justice Dept. want removed

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"Pro life"

Almost like adding unsupervised obstacles to a dangerous environment contributes to harmful outcomes. Somebody should get paid to write up an article on the subject for the Journal of Foreseeable Consequences.
If I booby-trap my home and somebody gets killed trying to break in, I (rightfully) go to prison for murder. If a politician booby-traps a border (with exceptions for situations involving war) and somebody gets killed trying to cross, they should end up behind bars too.
- The issue with that argument is that people supporting this believe they are fully allowed to booby-trap their house.
  
  Luckily, ignorance of the law does not insulate those individuals from consequences if they act on their incorrect beliefs. Just wish we'd apply the same line of thinking without regard for the perpetrator's level of political influence.
  
  While I have no doubt that people believe this. The people charged with enforcing the law should be aware of the law.

Too many things I want to reply to.
Sorry a kid died because their parents were 'breaking the law' How did a kid manage to make it to the border Nobody accused Abbott of being a good person Death traps. Roll a DC 15 constitution save.
Remember when there was a time that the president of the United States characterized the place we live as, "a shining beacon on a hill" and "bring us your tired, your weary, your broken masses" (sic) ...
The USA, despite your opinion, remains one of the most wealthy, prominent, and aspirational places to be (or arguably has ever existed) ... you can choose one of two paths ...
You can feel empathy for those that suffer and try to find a way by any means or you can say fuck 'em.
Choose empathy. We need a more effective, rational border policy. I'm not all rainbows and sunshine. One thing that needs to happen is an amendment to the constitution. Just because you're here and pump babies out doesn't make xyz a citizen. That is a supremely archaic provision of the constitution that needs amendment. It's no small part as to why some people risk their lives just to get here.
Ultimately people want to improve their station in life and we should not begrudge them for doing so. Improving one's station is what we all wish for. We need to put pressure on our politicians to do things to IMPROVE the situation because the status quo is not only immoral but impractical.
- I hate to tell you this. But has always been this way in the us. It used to be that the USA has a quota amount that we would except in the us. That's one of the main reasons that you sure turned away from New York. Cuz I would have to increase the quote on the West Coast
  
  You're right but we also didn't go drown them in the Hudson. The southern border can be a savage place. I'll never forget stepping out of the car during a cross-country trip and immediately losing my breath due to the heat.

Abbott is such a colossal piece of shit. The oak should've won.

Shit like this makes me feel all bitey. Blood calls to blood. Gets my heart pumping in the wrong way. I need carbs or a riot and I don't want to riot.

Fuck Texas, they'll find the roles reversed when their desert shithole becomes unable to support human life. I say throw a border around that removed and let them apply in place for asylum.

For a state that believes in good Christian values they sure suck at being Christian...

Nobody ever accused Abbott of being a good person.

Abbott is a murderer. Arrest him.

What are these buoys and how are they used to deter migrants?
- My understanding is that they are death traps designed to pull you under into a net and then you drown. There are warning signs on the US side but not the Mexican one.
  Not sure how they work as a deterrent, maybe the goal is to kill enough people so news goes back to the migrants' countries and scares the others off the trip? Otherwise if you already made it all the way to the border I don't think you'd turn back because of them. Then again maybe the point is simply to kill migrants.
  
  Isn't laying death traps... you know, illegal?
  
  And if this were literally the only potentially lethal hazard on these poor people's trek, it might actually work as a deterrent. But when people are fleeing for their life, through lethal hazards literally every day of the journey, only to face lethal risks after actually settling in America? What's one more risk, when the penalty is always the same...
  
  There's also apparently barbed wire laid under some stretches.

Sad. The parents would have known how risky this is, very irresponsible to try get through like that. They may have been fleeing unrest in Honduras, but there are multiple countries before the US they could have tried to seek refuge in. Choosing the US makes them economic migrants at that point.
- And if they are economic migrants... It's ok to murder their child?
- Those bastards. Wanting better lives. How dare they have what we have?!

So where were the parents?
- The child was one of TWO people dead.
- Trying to escape the country they came from to look for a better life. You think this kid wandered the desert themselves?
  
  Yeah, but when they went to cross, surely they could've gone to an official border crossing, and done a little paperwork.
- That's the first thing that comes to mind?
  
  Yeah? Kid went a thousand miles, he didn't do it alone. And at the most critical point, the actual crossing, where were the parents?
- @Blamemeta @idoubtit
  Wut?

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