How do people even express their thoughts coherently?
How do people even express their thoughts coherently?
Depression be scrambling my braincells like an egg ๐
If you express your viewpoint in a kind way, that's genuinely the most "winning" you can possibly achieve.
Convincing people in one go is not achievable by just finding the right words.
People may disagree. They may downvote you to hell. They may thank you. They may agree. They may misunderstand.
But as long as you write kindly, people will read what you say and give it thought. Maybe it plants a seed for them to change their mind another time.
There's also the trolls who argue in bad faith and only go online to bully.
Lemmy was trolls free at first, but then the Reddit dingle berries and grammar nazi's showed up... and all those turds deserve downvotes. I make it a personal mission to defend users here from bullying when I see it, life's already hard enough.
Write, proofread, rinse & repeat until satisfied
I'm am terrible at articulating things online.
wait shit
"Winning" an online argument doesn't make sense. I just say people to block me if they don't want to read my opinions or I block them before if they become very annoying. Who cares. It's not like people on the internet are my friends.
The only way to win is to not play
Maybe instead of "winning", y'all could debate to understand. You might even get a better outcome that includes both perspectives.
There's really not much debate because we're no longer discussing different approaches to agreed upon problems.
You can debate different policies to improve low standard of living. But right now one side's stance is that this isn't a problem they care to solve.
You can debate whether current DEI policies or some other policy is the best way to address systemic racism. You can't debate whether systemic racism exists.
Debate happens when people agree upon one reality and disagree on how to address it. When one side is in a different reality, debate won't fix it. I don't know what will..
The only thing that can fix it is the effects of believing in the wrong reality showing itself. If you believe that 1+1=3 and you try to do math with it, you will fail. The same thing needs to happen with any other discrepancy of reality and belief.
The problem of course is that the delay between cause/effect, or the indirectness, for many other things are too big for people to make the connection, as well as the unlimited amount of human mental biases allowing all kinds of manipulation. For that, I have no solution, apart from showing people how good of a life you can live if you fight against your own mental biases.
It takes years of practice. It's not worth it.
It's not fun or fulfilling, it ends up just a compulsion to keep twats from dominating the talking points of a community.
So true. It's a lot more giving personally to use smaller forums where specific hobbies or interests only are discussed.
And even then there are often still trolls... and also attention vampires who refuse to read anything unless directed specifically at them.
I learned long ago in the early days of reddit arguing with people online is a waste of time.
I disagree! In this 14 point essay I will explain to you why you're wrong...
Depression be scrambling my braincells like an egg ๐
Exercise (even simple stretching or a small walk), good sleep, and good diet (supplementation if needed) clear my brain fog a little. Depending on the cause of my brain fog, caffeine can help too.
Why fuck are attacking personally me?
Stroke
Practice.
I normally donโt have a problem arguing coherently online. Talking however is a big issue sometimes.
It might help if you practise writing with a pen on paper. No backspace key, you have to think about what you write more thoroughly. That slows you down and helps over time to gather your thoughts. And if it turns out that youโve written garbage, just turn to a blank page and start again.
If incoherent rants are your concern, worry not! You could be president of Murica
Bolf of you to presame that we d0... :-P
Pfft, the best way to win an argument is to not have it. You know you're right, fuck that other guy, not worth the time.
But, what you gotta do is grab your fucking brain, slap it in the fucking cunt, tell it to shut the fuck up and do what it's told, or it gets a thumb up its ass again.
Now, it's very important when disciplining your brain that you never make empty threats, so you gotta keep that thumb ready, and as soon as that fucking shit-for-brains brain talks back, you jam that thumb right up its poop chute, no excuses, no delay, no lube. You thumb fuck that brain into submission.
I find usually when I can't articulate something clearly, it's because I haven't thought about it/researched it well enough, and I should stop trying to contribute on that topic until I have a better understanding.
That's why I often end up writing long comments, but don't hit post. Not a waste of time though, as it helps me identify areas in which I'm more ignorant than I thought I was.
Trying to win an argument online
Well there's your problem...
I mean, if that's what you mean then why do on purpose?
I feel called out so badly right now...
Why much word when few do trick?
"A Man Convinced Against His Will, Is of the Same Opinion Still" - Samuel Butler