Hyundai and Kia recall nearly 92,000 vehicles and tell owners to park them outside due to fire risk

I think gasoline fires are easier to put out because basically every fire station everywhere has the equipment/chemicals to deal with an oil/gas fire while not everywhere has the material and training to put out a large battery fire

Yet.

At one time, fire stations didn't have the knowhow and equipment to put out gasoline fires, but now cars are everywhere and they do. Give it time and even the most podunk volunteer fire station will have stuff to deal with vehicle battery fires.

Dont forget the fact you can drive off with a usb cable as a key.

I mean, that sounds more like a shitty dealership problem?

I bought a Sonata years ago and it ran great for a few years then it just started dying, burning oil with blue smoke when I start the car, really sluggish acceleration, and if I turn eco mode on the car basically has a stroke and sounds like it's going to explode if I try and get on a highway.

I took it in and they told me there's nothing wrong with it quite literally while a blue cloud of smoke shot out the exhaust when they were telling me it's fine. They refuse to acknowledge anythings wrong.

Had to get a part replaced which meant they had to remove the dashboard to do it, realize after I leave when I go to get gas that the gas cap won't open nor the trunk. So I assume they forgot to plug back in those buttons (they are on the same wiring harness), they tell me it was the fuse and it's either $75 to replace the fuse or $150 to diagnose it. It was working fine before they had it and I have no aftermarket mods, have never touched the wiring, and never touched the battery, but they just did so it makes sense that within this short period of time the cause of the fuse is from their work. It's not something that I can prove but it's the most logical reason and fuses are dirt cheap but nope, they not just denied it they then tried to gaslight me.

First he said it was an old fuse and that's why it went, I'm not electrical engineer and fuses can corrode this one was clean and fuses don't just go bad they have too high a voltage traveling and they melt that's their purpose. So after that explanation the guy told me that they never had to touch the dashboard so it couldn't be them and goes into this very detailed technical explanation of how they can do what they needed to do (replace the steering wheel coupler). I told him I watched a YouTube video from their official techs showing how the part is replaced and the entire steering wheel column has to be dropped out and/or removed to replace it, one of their techs happens by and we ask him and he confirms what I said. So now the goal post moves again and he tells me that they did have to remove the dashboard and interact with those systems but by simply pushing the button in the manner the system is designed for the system will short out. I point out that sounds like a design flaw and should be covered under the warranty, they told me it's not.

I was literally thinking of buying a new car to get Android auto as my sonata was prior to that addition, but when their own techs use the argument that their cars are garbage so they shouldn't be responsible there's no way I'd buy Hyundai again so now I'm waiting on availability to buy a new Toyota. So yeah, really fuck Hyundai and Hyundai of Trenton especially.

I currently have a Nissan Sentra. Just looked at the Honda Accord which seems to be the only higher end sedan and its not bad compared to some I looked at but still doesn't look as nice as the Sonata and is more expensive for less. I'll keep this one bookmarked to look at it some more, thanks!

Doesn't look like they have a sedan? It's the only type of car I am looking for. The hatchback one does look nice, I am just not a fan of that style.

When I was dating my wife she had a used 06 Lexus hybrid. I would like to agree with you but our experience wasn't very good either. Great car when it was fine but definitely found out the hard way to never hold onto a luxury car longer than 5-6 years. It's not a problem that things start going, which is to be expected, it's that they cost significantly more to have repaired. So even the little things started adding up. Thankfully my father is a mechanic and helped when he could but even the parts cost more than a regular car. Just have to find that fine line of when to sell before worrying about all the wear and tear stuff because it adds up quick.

Yep. And now they're facing a class action about the charge ports overheating on their EVs because those suing know that Hyundai Motor Group won't recall to properly fix the issue. Makes you think the warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on.

No need, they're easy to steal.

I'm so sad I've been in love with Hyundai for years! Affordable, lasts forever, easy/cheap maintenance.

I still got another good 10 years on mine, but dunno what I'll buy after that

And yet people still buy Tesla.

n=1

Shit quality control.

New cars cost so much compared to even a few year old used vehicles its insane.

Not saying that. There are some great car manufacturers. The three mentioned previously are not.

Same for me. The lack of action is really the deal breaker. Sure, lapses happen with manufacturing or QA (not having an immobilizer by default is just straight up bad though), but what separates the good ones from the bad ones is that they jump into action and fix it; not delay and provide band-aid solutions. I'm just waiting to use up the pre-paid maintenance package I purchased then I'm trading mine in for a Honda.

I would drive a motorized unicycle before buying a Chevy.

Not a belt, it was a chain. The car was regularly maintained and moderately driven (about 150k miles on the odo) - it's a very common failure on these engines. They suck

It was a timing chain - it failed somehow and destroyed the engine. It's a well known issue with this specific engine block which is why they stopped making them and they're impossible to find new-in-crate engines for this car.

My partner loved that car, I told them constantly "it's a beautiful looking car, but it's a hyundai" - damn I hated being right when that engine failed

Thanks for the links. The thing is if they didn't ask owners to keep their cars parked outside I probably wouldn't have even noticed.